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Many Daily Paulers revere Black National-Socialist Cynthia McKinney over Conservative Ted Cruz

Many Daily Paulers sure love Cynthia McKinney...

http://www.dailypaul.com/281209/cynthia-mckinney-delivers-an...
"I am a Big Fan of Cynthia McKinney...I agree with her probably about 70%" +4
"We need 300 million more Americans that think like her." +5
"Cynthia McKinney is a VERY strong voice in the Liberty movement. She lost her seat because she refused to compromise her principles, she refused to "sell out". I hope someday she seeks to win it back." +6

Any dissent is strongly downvoted...

"She's no lover of liberty when it comes to economic freedom and state sponsored redistribution of wealth." -5

Meanwhile, in other threads, "neocons" who plan to "co-opt" the liberty movement such as Ted Cruz are being lambasted as recently as 2013...
http://www.dailypaul.com/268999/what-did-ron-paul-endorse-te...
http://www.dailypaul.com/268923/is-ted-cruz-feigning-neocon
http://s2.dailypaul.com/278365/ted-cruz-opinions
"He is a Israel lover war monger. How on Earth did Ron Paul endorse this fool??" +10
"You can search my previous comments from before the election and see I was urging people the entire time to NOT vote Cruz. I told them to vote for Glenn Addison who had pretty much mirrored Ron Paul's entire platform. Cruz's wife works for Goldman Sachs as well." +5
"An agent for the NWO maybe.. but not for liberty...Hagel said he is not a Senator of Israel, but a Senator for the United States. Cruz crucified him for saying what should have been said.." +4
"This guy sounds like every other war mongering neocon out there.... What gives?" +2
"TOTAL NEOCON. Does anyone know who these enemies are that Ted Cruz is talking about? Iran is not our enemy any more than Israel is our friend, poor Texas, I'm sure his constituents were not expecting their boy to squander his political capital on such reprehensible Zionist bull crap. The GOP, not having any conservatives in the leadership, ONLY WARPIG NEOCONS, keeps trying to repackage their Zionist bullcrap as somehow as American as apple pie. Ptew! I spit on them! Any elected official who claims senator Hagel is unfit based on his non-allegiance to a FOREIGN NATION is unfit based on THEIR allegiance to Israel! Jews vote for Democrats sure, but the big secret is Jews fund both parties, so Republican politicians go and prostrate themselves before their Israeli masters, and grovel for the filthy Lucre. He's not feigning necon, he's feigning patriot. +3
This guy has always been an actor and a neocon. He was feigning support for liberty. He feigned the message Paul was delivering for personal gain. I watched him change tune for his audience too many times during the election to trust him." +6
"Cruz embodies the very thing paul opposes..." +3
"Time for the establishment to start promoting their neo-libertarians." +4
"He's an Israeli worshipping neocon..Riding the coats tails of rand paul, in time you will see his true colors." +4

And any opposing views?

"as long as we get other things from cruz and he remains loyal on those front it will be fine, be it civil liberties or spending" -2

The liberty movement must stop applauding Marxist gun-grabbers and embrace our true allies on the right if we are to get anywhere politically. I am aware many people on RPF have already woken up to this fact. Unfortunately, few have on the DP, which has a significantly larger userbase. I am aware many people despise "Zionists". I'm okay with that, even though I don't agree. But please, don't let that blind you into backing the radical far-left, even the Stormfronters don't do that. I fear many of these people may not be libertarians at all - they could well be a crowd from DU or RevLeft coming here to hijack our movement.

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What is Mckinneys voting

What is Mckinneys voting record? that's all you have to look at. Anyone who still supports here is just as dumb as those who supported Romney and McCain.

Yeah, this place kind of

Yeah, this place kind of reminds me of the Daily Kos. It's definitely a lot more liberal than it is conservative. Ron Paul forums is much better.

"To any honest observer,

"To any honest observer, Zimbabwe's sin is that it has taken the position to right a wrong, whose resolution has been too long overdue--to return its land to its people." — Cynthia McKinney

Referring to government seizure of land and redistributing it to others, as well as Mugabe's attempt to force banks to finance blacks that were given land taken by the government. Ya, she isn't no lover of liberty. She is just another socialist bigot.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

I don't like everything about Cruz

I don't like everything about Cruz but I'd rather see him as the Texas Senator as opposed to the anti-Semite Cynthia M.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

automatic down-vote

... for any and all titles with skin color. All your words are worthless once you shown your { cough! Racist } true colors

The reason

One has sold his soul and isn't interested in truth, the other, though we differ from her views, is real and seeks the truth.

Slight correction....

Over "Neoconservative" (fake conservative) Cruz. Neoconservatives are socialist themselves, just in the communist/Trotskyite sense - with a side of NWO.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

How do you know Cruz is a

How do you know Cruz is a neoconservative? Did most neoconservatives oppose foreign aid? Did most neoconservatives oppose intervention in Libya?

Is his support for Israel the reason he is a neoconservative? Does that also mean Senator Robert Taft is a neoconservative?

I suggest you actually learn what a neoconservative is.

By the DP definition, everyone from Pat Buchanan to Barry Goldwater is a neocon.

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You have nailed them, Compromise!

Mental dependency on the Jew drives many anti-Semites into fringes. Unrecognized inferiority complex brings them despair and anxiety. They use their apriori feelings of hate to decide whom they will support. You can trace with predictability how they elevated alcoholic Hagel and cursed Gary Johnson, Glenn Beck, and Rand Paul.

Sure, many are just young parrots, who were educated by youtube clips, but that does not make them better.

??????????????? I have questions ?????????????

You Said:

"The liberty movement must stop applauding Marxist gun-grabbers and embrace our true allies on the right if we are to get anywhere politically. I am aware many people on RPF have already woken up to this fact. Unfortunately, few have on the DP, which has a significantly larger userbase. I am aware many people despise "Zionists". I'm okay with that, even though I don't agree. But please, don't let that blind you into backing the radical far-left, even the Stormfronters don't do that. I fear many of these people may not be libertarians at all - they could well be a crowd from DU or RevLeft coming here to hijack our movement."

I have questions:

What is a Black National Socialist?

What is DU?

What is RevLeft?

What are the Stormfronters?

I have been a life-long straight ticket Republican. I am not a Libertarian necessarily because when it comes to abortion, I am pro-life and the last libertarian candidate for pres was not pro-life. I am pretty much a social conservative, however, I do not believe one can legislate morality.

I am concerned that "the communists" are coming, in the sense that there is a gun grab and the divide/conquer regiment has and is being used to divide the American people against ourselves. So I ask those questions of you because I would like to know what you are talking about. Really, I think I only saw McKinney when she was part of the 2008 debate or whatever it was that Ron Paul had for all of the minor parties after he did not get the nomination. I did not know about Ron Paul then and only saw that 2008 even last year. I am still learning about liberty.

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A National Socialist is a Nazi. RevLeft and DU=Democratic Underground are Leftist forums. Stormfront is a white supremacist group.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

A Black National Socialist...Is A Nazi !

That from a person who doesn't like to be called anti-semite.

I don't think the daily paul is a place for name calling of any type,,,Mr. Compromise .

beesting

I like the fact that she stands up to IzUnreal

Cruz I do not like anything about him.

sovereign

Is this necessary? There are

Is this necessary? There are too many unique opinions in the movement to 'corral' them all. Just downvote it and move on. Yes C. Mckinney is ultra progressive economically, but she has some good points now and then.

Southern Agrarian

this is polarizing the truth... a good stretch

and a bait and switch.

but I like your style dawg... it is a good frame for explaining why you like Ted the neocon over Cynthia the neo-socialist demoncrat.

none of us have picked cynthia just because we like some of the things she says, take everything with a grain of salt, stop arbitrating DP values and like the first coin says; mind your business.

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

Labels

Labels are collectivist.

And the word "revere," is misapplied here. I don't think most folks on DP "revere" many other humans.

Putting labels on people and herding them into stereotypical groups is not libertarian, it's collectivist.

Truth is truth, whether it comes out of Cynthia's mouth or Ted's mouth, or Dr. Paul's mouth. Independent, free-thinking people learn to discern and appreciate truth and don't try to demonize the messenger, whether they agree with them on everything or not.

“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
― Albert Camus

You mean sometimes it's NOT about labels and identity politics?

THIS MUST BE STOPPED. Conservative means we're always right and they are always wrong.

There is nothing strange about having a bar of soap in your right pocket, it's just what's happening.

True

This should merely tell you that we are winning.

We are all here learning. Back in 07 when Ron Paul was made his first Republican presidential bid.. I had been an Indy 18 years, worked with Ralph Nader for three consecutive elections for more voices and choices. I did not agree with Ron paul 100%, by a long shot. I liked his stand on cannabis and peace. Everything else has been a learning lesson. Now I'm elected to my GOP committee, just went to my first state convention with the support of many folks on DP, and even had my picture taken with Karl Rove..

So, while I see what you are seeing.. it doesn't bother me.. growing pains.. it's not worth being upset over.. it's an opportunity to educate and if you can't then learn.

I'm called neocon, zionist, and much more, have been for years, and while I see folks come and go, and come and go, we all learn.

Cynthia McKinney admitted she is studying liberty. Good. Maybe she'll catch up to the rest of us?

Maybe You Should Read This, Compromise;

http://www.dailypaul.com/guide

Cynthia McKinney took an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution,,,and you calling her a national socialist, is like me calling you a Zionist.

beesting

The difference is...

No one was being asked to VOTE for Cynthia McKinney. Comments regarded what she said in the speech she gave and her character as a legislator. Do you honestly think that were she to run for office again, the people here wouldn't be pointing out all the positives as well as negatives of whatever her actual platform was?

Unrelated to elections (the nature of that post), what matters is the *common ground* among people of any political affiliation, race, or creed with regard to LIBERTY ISSUES. If you recall, Ron Paul and socialist-leaning Dennis Kucinich sometimes found that common ground.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Indeed.

There is a disturbing amount of support on the Daily Paul for socialists such as Cynthia McKinney and Elizabeth Warren.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Many support Kucinich over

Many support Kucinich over Rand Paul.

http://www.dailypaul.com/265788/poll-if-you-had-to-choose-wh...

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Very disappointing

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"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Ron Paul allied with Barney Frank to oppose federal MJ laws

so the divisive drivel just doesn't hold much appeal for me.

Compliment your "enemies" when they're right; chastise your "allies" when they're wrong.

I down voted the OP because....

...of lumping.

You're lumping the entire Daily Paul community into to your generalization.

Some do. Most don't.

This is a community with a wide degree opinions. You can find anything you want on the DP. If you spend your time trying to find more people who revere McKinney over Cruz, then don't be surprised when you find it.

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Look at the downvotes and

Look at the downvotes and upvotes. It is clear that a majority here hold these views.

I have changed the title to avoid lumping all you guys in.

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We must have really different ideas of what comprises a majority

"Look at the downvotes and upvotes. It is clear that a majority here hold these views."

Aren't there like 57,000 subscribers here at DP? That post had (at the time of my viewing) 22 votes and 11 comments.

To me, that doesn't clearly determine anything. Let alone what the opinion of the "majority" of people here is on this subject.

Does it really mean that to you? That 33 people's opinion determine the thoughts of so many others?

Thanks for adjusting the title...

I'd just advise that you take the votes with a grain of salt. Why look at the votes anyway? Why not just read the content and decide for yourself?

The DP is just a portal from which to connect to information, other activists, and to have discussions. Use it to suit your needs. Ignore the stuff you don't like.

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