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To All Americans... Very interesting - Buy American!

To All Americans... Very interesting - Buy American!

Costco sells Goodyear wiper blades for almost half the price that you will pay

on the outside and they are made in the USA .

Did you know that there is no electric coffee maker made in the USA and that the

only kitchen appliances made in the USA are Viking?

I didn't know Hallmark cards were made in China . That is also why I don't buy

cards at Hallmark anymore; they are made in China and more expensive. I buy them

at Dollar Tree; 50 cents each and made in USA .

I have been looking at blenders available on the internet. Kitchen Aid is made

in the USA . Top of my list already!!!!

Yesterday, I was in Wal-Mart looking for a waste basket. I found some made

in China for $6.99. I didn't want to pay that much so I asked the lady if they

had any others. She took me to another department and they had some at $2.50

made in USA . They are just as good. Same as a kitchen rug I needed. I had to

look but I found some made in the USA . What a concept! And, they were $3.00

cheaper.

We are being brainwashed to believe that everything that comes

from China and Mexico is cheaper. Not so.

One light bulb at a time!!!!!.

I was in Lowe's the other day and just out of curiosity, I looked at

the hose attachments. They were all made in China . The next day I was in Ace

Hardware and just for the heck of it, I checked the hose

attachments there. They were made in the USA .

Smart looking, people! In our current economic situation, every little thing we

buy or do affects someone else. Most often their job.

My grandson likes Hershey's candy. I noticed, though, that it is now marked,

Made in Mexico . I don't buy it anymore.

My favorite toothpaste, Colgate, is made in Mexico . Now, I have

switched to Crest.

You have to read the labels on everything.

This past weekend, I was at Kroger. I needed 60 watt light bulbs and

Bounce dryer sheets. Right next to the GE brand that I normally buy was an

off-brand labeled, Everyday Value. I picked up both types of bulbs and compared

them.. They were the same except the price. The GE bulbs cost more than the

Everyday Value brand but the thing that surprised me the most was that the GE

was made in Mexico and the Everyday Value brand was made in, you guessed it, a

company in Cleveland , Ohio , USA .




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Why stop at only buying products made in USA?

I'm helping the economy even more than you are b/c I only buy products made in my own State. Why send that money to Ohio when we need that money here at home? But then I realized that by buying from anywhere in my State I was hurting the people in my local town that also sell the same items...so now I only buy from manufacturers based in my town. That still seemed unfair, so now I only buy products made on my own street. There aren't many choices when it comes to electronics but I do get a pretty good deal on cucumbers and horse manure. I'm getting pretty sick of horse shit but I still want to help our economy so I've now decided to only by products made by people who live in the same house as me. We are all pretty hungry and cold but at least no one can say I'm not doing my part for prosperity!

Bastiat would be proud of

Bastiat would be proud of this type of satirical analysis.

Reminded me of "Candlemaker's Petition" kind of.

Buy conscious: Do not buy

Buy conscious:
Do not buy from the Halliburton's of the world (Chinese or American)
Buy from your neighbors and friends (There may be liberty minded individuals in both China or America).
Do not buy tortured animals for food.
Buy from organic a local farmers
Do not buy things advertised in MSM
Buy stuff advertised in DP by clicking at the link.
etc. etc. etc.

Bastiat

Bastiat debunked this balance of trade nonsense years ago.

http://spontaneousorder.in/bastiat-on-the-balance-of-trade/

Protectionism destroys economies

Be smarter than the NWO, because it is the one pushing agitprop like "Buy American" for purposes of divide & conquer.

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www.madeintheusaforever.com

www.madeintheusaforever.net

Edited for spelling

*Wisconsin Constitution* Article I, Section 25 "The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security,defense,hunting,recreation or any other law-abiding purpose"

Here ya go - Ron Paul floor of the House Bill to get out WTO

As Ron Paul has said many times, we don't have free trade, it's unfair trade, and with policies like NAFTA, GATT and the WTO we never will - buy American baby.

Ron Paul on the floor of the house with bill to get us out of our industry sucking WTO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmGcaOkRsTU&feature=youtube_g...

Globalization

Should you think you can compete with sweat shops around the world, where the equivelant wage is a dollar a day, and maintain the same standard of living, your wrong.
Should you think corporatists are going to cut profit margins to accomodate soverign workers, your wrong.
Should you think off-shore corporate manufacturing can be encouraged back, your wrong, they will be nationalised.
Your politicians gave you two insideous diseases, globalization and planned obsolescence.
Get them out and get people in committed to re-industralisation, manufacturing incentive, production, job creation and modernisation.
Whatever happened to American innovation, know-how and inventiveness, that's what made the US 'exceptional'.

"Hell is empty, and all the devils are here" (Shakespeare)
RP 2012~ Intellectual Revolution.

I suggest you to

either read Ludwig von Mises or switch to socialists.

Without studying the sound SCIENCE of economics, people use "common sense" or parrot others. Their "logic" becomes confused and short-sighted. They concentrate on their own job and their own industry forgetting about anything else. Thus, those who protect labor will support 1) more spending into economy; 2) tariffs; 3) destroying machines or preventing new robotic machines; 4) banning eBay that sells used, pre-owned goods.

The perfect example is a university professor who craves his tenure & grants that is supported by tuition via bloated government loans via taxes via big government via propoganda for "common good." Do not try to tell such a professor that big government and taxes are no good.

Another politically correct issue

Destroy from within, "buying American equals bad". And, is probably racist now-a-days, get it right guys gee. Baaaaaaa.. baa baa

No American infrastructure, it must be destroyed equals no sovereignty, equals dependency. Rah rah, go team China.

baa

Your Cheatin' Heart is gonna tell on you
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYPnhZqOgAQ

Without China or other countries

and solid USA tariffs in place, USA elederly wont be able to afford a second pair of shoes. It is printing paper money and government regulations that drive capital and jobs away. Thus making us poor and dependable. Free trade puts pressure on local labor to compete and serve consumers the best as they can. Local labor has an advantage over the foreign labor (the cost of transport from overseas.) Without free market pressure, the industry becomes a mafia and forces upon the rest monopoly prices.

Milton Friedman on tariffs and free trade (3.5min): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk3ruapRQZk

If a trade agreement is implemented

and overseen by government then it is not 'free trade'

We don't have a free market, or free trade.

With sound money

that is not an issue.

Sure it is

Under sound money, import tariffs and domestic subsidies would be the mercantilist weapons of choice. Possibly also "gunboat diplomacy" (although under sound money bellicosity is more laughable than threatening)

No, what's needed is the elimination of government, after which sound money and free trade would be natural developments.

see my reply to the post below

Also keep in mind the common mistake of lay people who confuse money with wealth (goods and services usable by consumers.)

Good comment but not quite on-the-spot

I made the "...those protectionist/mercantilist countries are only hurting themselves and giving foreign consumers cheap goods" point as well, in another thread somewhere. Your "...as long as US government does not tax" wishful thinking is what makes your point fall apart.

What I stated above is that the US government most certainly would use taxation/redistribution (tariffs & subsidies as far as trade is concerned) to "make up for" the perceived losses that sound money would cause its crony cabal.

China isn't the only country that has insufficient capital to subsidize industry. Every country on Earth is in that same blue marble boat.

If we get back to sound money

that means we have the majority on our side and government is reasonably small. In that case, the only danger would be to prevent new generations to rebel against their parents and go for "common good" dogma again. Today, even most anti-capitalist "economists" support free trade, since all protectionists policies destroy capital and wealth.

Again with the wishful thinking

Back when governments were shipping gold back & forth across oceans for purposes of "balancing trade," they were smaller -- and those smaller governments still managed to do the whole tariff & subsidy thing that damaged their domestic economies.

Bastiat understood the filthy protectionists quite well. "They will say that combatting the principle of balance of trade is like tilting at windmills." Bastiat understood that even with specie-backed money, politically connected crime syndicates would find ways to rip off the masses through what he called plunder by way of The Law.

The important words there are "politically connected." They key to freedom (e.g. free trade) is not forcing a smaller government to return to sound money. The key is eliminating government altogether.

You see

when the government sets the exchange rate on private banks ($20/oz or $35/oz) or itself ships gold back and forth, that is not gold standard I understand. It is true that if there are hostile countries, people in free countries suffer as well (pay for defense, etc.) But organized labor did more damage to economy than anything else (like organized labor in government offices, Pentagon and its subcontractors.) My thinking may be wishful, but anarchism is a complete utopia like communism.

You parrot NWO talking points about anarchism

That is part of the one-world swindle, to get people parroting NWO talking points until a "majority" demands global government.

Anarchists are the ones who tell people that utopia is impossible. Others try to perfect society with "just the right amount" of government coercion.

The only way to minimize the amount of fraud that goes on in the world is to eliminate government once and for all. No utopia, just eliminating dangerous consequences from the malignant self-love of self-professed "leaders."

A great book to discover earlier NWO strategies for vilifying "bomb throwing anarchists" is The Man Who Was Thursday by G.K. Chesterton. Laughable propaganda, but masterful literature.

there is no such thing as free trade when you have trade

agreements. Ron Paul voted against NAFTA, GATT and constantly rails against the WTO.

without competition prices can't go lower, China has the market cornered on some industries like textiles, which is why prices have skyrocketed from just a couple years ago.

Sure the Dollar and the Fed printing matter as well, but you could basically give China every US job from police officer to doctor to congressman to Wal mart greeter and they would still have 600 billion unemployed, they have a never ending supply and sooner or later they will corner the market or you will be out of a job. Now if you are a globalists and don't care if the United States exists or countries exist and want one global Goverment then free trade will work.

In your logic

of "conering" you forget about capital. For example, if China decides to subsidize its steel industry to drive our steel industry out of business, for Americans at large that would be only a benefit (as long as US government does not tax property much.) After few years of such subsidizing, the wealth will be transfered from China taxpayers to American consumers. US dollars that went to China would come back into US other industries that compete well thus creating more jobs (China has no capital to subsidize all industries.) Without taxes on property, US steel industry (mothballed for time being) can resume while China would be without capital. Sacrificing all Americans to secure jobs for labor in steel industry will only make all Americans more poor.

If you want to secure jobs for all industries, you need socialism and stagnation - equally poor. China indeed tried that.

Jesus Christ its 2013 and

Jesus Christ its 2013 and people on the Daily Paul still don't understand the basics of the division of labor and how money works?!!?

Holy crap do you not understand that we don't have a free market

Your entire theory about cheap labor goes down the drain.

Ron Paul has railed against the WTO (World Trade Organization) who's rules we are under.

Cheap labor has nothing to do with it.

Let's give you a nice example my WTO friend,

About 3-10 years ago you could buy cheap clothing and shoes, we had competition, India, the USA, the Phillipeans, China, Macauw, etc. However in the last 3 years China has cornered the market and prices have screamed upward.

Why...because foolish people bought cheap crap from China who was dumping products into every country through unfair slave labor practices selling products below the cost to make them. They bought up clothes processing equipment from companies that went belly up, and shipped it to China. Now they own the market, the equipment and the know how and have increased prices dramatically - the competition from Mexico, India, the Phillipeans, USA etc. is gone and dead, you have no competition, you have no choice.

I have friends that used to use my business that worked making clothing for LL Bean, this was 2003. Well LL Bean starting buying Chinese, this company went to Mexico to compete and these people that made $13 an hour back in 2003 , not bad, but are now making $10 hr in 2013 working in a different industry, they can't afford to use my business, along with many others that closed around them. The company that moved to Mexico, still couldn't compete with China and their illegal tactics of dumping their products and closed.

Free trade only works if everybody is on an equal playing field without NAFTA, GATT and the WTO and other unconstitutional trade agreements. I can sell my products unrestricted anywhere, then so can you, however when you decimate an industry or a countries industrial backbone so much over time, that I'm sure China is fairly close to saying sure trade with us now that we have a monopoly on everything.

When you go to WalMart do you realize every bottle of Apple juice they stock gets shipped over thousands of miles from China - they dont sell American made apple juice even though American made apple juice is just as cheap and probably won't ever be contaminated like a Chinese brand - why so they can get rid of competition and corner markets and then raise prices. In addition, a few years back thousands of people had their pets die, because an ingredient in pet food sourced from China (because it was cheaper) killed the dogs and cats. Clothing from China has been shown to have huge amounts of formaldehyde in the products, stuff you would never get away with in the US.

The trick to keeping prices down is to have competition, it's not buying the lowest priced product.

Where I live we have from year to year the Cheapest gas in the country it's about $3.25 - $3.29 a gallon right now, I don't go to the same gas station every day, I go to different ones so they all stay in business, as a community we have learned to do that, so we keep competition around to keep prices down.

There is nothing wrong with Chinese competition or products, if they had competition. Wal Mart product line is nearly 70% Chinese made, there is no competition and as a result prices are moving higher.

When you take an industry out of the US you lose the tax base, the wage scale overall goes down, the knowledge from the industry is lost, and you lose competition, resulting in higher taxes to make up the difference, welfare increases, increased prices for the same product, less choice and higher unemployment.

All one has to look at the US since NAFTA and GATT were approved by Democrat Bill Clinton and the Republican congress to see the damage the US has sustained. While our wages have dropped like a rock, our taxes have increased, what was the industry that picked up the slack after NAFTA, it was the housing industry and it's bubble and every job associated with it, from home flippers to mortgage brokers to construction to home products manufacturers -

In the past you use to see on TV, Thousands of Chinese riding bikes because they were poor, now they are driving cars, because the roles have switched, now Americans are riding bikes because we are too poor.

During the time of the colonies, the King refused to allow manufacturing here, we sent to England raw materials that would come back as finished products that we were taxed on. Thats because manufacturing creates wealth, we are sending our wealth, that we have created here over the last 150 years, out to China at a crazy rate. The wealth you might think would come back here, but the Chinese buy nothing from us, maybe a few high end cars, maybe some illegally killed tusks from elephants or Rinos, but that's it. As much as they manufacture and as much as they have increased their standard of living by selling their crap to us, we sell them nothing in return. Oh wait, we do, they buy our scrap steel, our lumber and our minerals to build more crap to sell us. China will always have a labor advantage because even if we gave then every single job now located in the United States, they would still have 600 billion unemployed.

I'm all for letting the market place decide and free trade, but we have neither in the US Anymore and I will buy US as much as I can just to try and keep some competition out there.

Buy the way for those that want unlimited supplies of the old style incandescent light bulbs and made in USA (Texas)
try newcandescent.com

Pandering to labor out of my own pocket

is the same as paying more taxes to support trade union contracts. Economists have demonstrated that consumers (all of us) benefit if they spend less (or when they do spend, buy more goods with the money to satisfy their needs.) Then personal wealth is maximized.

Our fight should be against "safety" and "environmentalist" government regulations and for quick, just and affordable courts. Then capital and jobs will come back. And yes, close the borders until free-market capitalism is fully restored.

I always look at the label for USA

There is nothing wrong with free trade if it's truly free, and trade with China is not fair or free as well as other countries because they are all based on WTO which is a scam. It's global government based. for example the US implemented labels for country of origin on beef, pork etc. so Canada goes to the World Trade Organization and b I t c h e s and of course the US always loses those votes so now they can put sanctions on us even though Canada mandates all their products be labeled for country of origin.

So best value when buying is not always cheapest. In my opinion, it's buying American as much as possible.

So now I will always buy American beef because Canada wants to stop my right to know where my food is coming from.

There's nothing wrong with participating in....

the international division of labor, just buy whatever you think is a greater value, regardless of where its from.

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I like how this comment was

I like how this comment was downvoted. People here are so retarded. What did a bunch of Beck's followers roll in and start claiming they're "libertarian"?!?!

Dude posts the most basic comment about the division of labor and subjective value and gets downvoted.

Simpletons. Simpletons everywhere.

Respectfully Disagree

When you buy products from another country that money leaves the country and the product stays. The equation is even.

When you buy products from our country both the money and wealth stay. This helps grow our economy as the physical item is still here (wealth) and the money goes on to be spent within our economy elsewhere.

Neither the division of labor or subjective value can be used to support one view or the other as they can be applied within our own market economy or world wide.

I believe this is why the comment was downvoted, although it is at +3 now. It's not that it wasn't valid but that it didn't address the deeper issues involved. We need to take a complete, and critical look at the consequences of shortsightedly assuming getting the best product for your money is the only concern.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

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Buy things where they are cheapest so you can buy more things

Nationalist economics can not and will not work.

No nation is economically independent in the least. It takes thousands of people from different continents just to make a simple #2 pencil.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson