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Robb Wolf discusses the Paleo diet and health issues

I urge everyone to actually listen to the clip.

Robb Wolf - “I became very ill eating a vegan diet. I had ulcerative colitis, IBS and a host of other problems. I had started eating a vegan diet thinking this was a healthy way of eating. At the time, I was a research biochemist, and someone suggested that my problems might be resolved with the adoption of an ancestral (Paleo) way of eating. Within a few weeks of adopting a Paleo diet, my ulcerative colitis was gone, as were my other health concerns. I’ve been eating this way for 15 years now and have experienced better health than at any previous point in my life. Although the Paleo diet advocates the consumption of animal products, it is a thoughtful way of eating congruent with both ethics and sustainability, and I make this a large part of the education I provide.”

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It will catch up to you as

It will catch up to you as you get older don't worry... Just sayin...

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your body also changes with time

and the more time you spend eating fast food toxins the harder of a time it is for your changing body to assort between what is good and what is needed.

more medicinal mushrooms go a long way if your general not a good eater.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. -Henry Ford

I posted it for the benefit of others

Interestingly, my personal experience was very similar to Robb Wolf's. I thought he explained things very well in this clip, so I posted it for the benefit of others who might be trying hard to do everything their doctors and nutritionists are telling them to do, but are getting sicker and sicker.

It was never intended to generate any of this "my diet is better than your diet" stuff. Simply an FYI for those it might help. And I agree completely that what works for some people may not work for others.

Unfortunately, and I am part to blame for this myself, this thread like so many others has degenerated in to unintended unpleasantness. I do hope that does not dissuade those who the clip might benefit.

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sounds like

you've done a bit of soul searching, something we all should do. when you start a post/thread it is (if it's interesting) going to generate discussion. personally i don't see it as one diet is better than another, but rather that one believes one is better than another. if we look at the evidence some people get healthy with paleo, some with vegan, and some lucky ones who follow no particular school of thought, or follow just plain old common sense. i applaud you wanting to avoid unpleasantness in the future. there's a lot more to this thread than your one clip, altho it is a good one. i encourage newbies to cruise around and make up your own mind if you're on a search.

Right on. I agree with you

Right on. I agree with you on this.

The point is that for some people, grains, legumes, and dairy, and for some, also nightshades and nuts, are very destructive to the digestive system. The problems can include GERD, gastritis, celiac disease, Crohn's, MS, colitis, ulcerative colitis, and IBS. Other issues can include kidney problems, liver problems, skin issues, unexplained weight loss, unexplained weight gain and inability to lose weight.

If one will listen to the clip above, one will find Robb Wolf discussing all of this and his personal issues.

Wolf also advocates people with health issues trying all diets. He suggests keeping notes on how you feel, your weight and going to the doctor and getting blood work done. Then try a diet for 30 days, while keeping notes on how you feel and getting more blood work at the end of the 30 days. Then repeating this with the next diet, etc. Then at the end of it all compare your notes on how you felt and blood work and what you should and shouldn't be doing should be fairly obvious.

I wish I had done what he advocates. Instead I did it the long and hard way of eliminating one problem food at a time. My diet now is more severe than the Paleo diet, but like it or not, it's what I have to do to stay healthy and not die young.

Now we should all turn off our computers and go outside and play...

:-)

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individualism!

It applies to nutrition as well:

http://www.amazon.com/Biochemical-Individuality-Roger-Willia...

“With laws shall our land be built up, but with lawlessness laid waste.”
-Njal Thorgeirsson

Very well said.

Very well said.

And BTW, dinahtab is a troll. Go to the threads about the Boston lock-down etc. You can see it.

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you couldn't just keep it positive

and upbeat. you had to drag in your differences with dinatab. so when someone has different opinions on diet or the boston lockdown they are trolls? name calling is an indicator that a person doesn't have all that much confidence in their own arguments.

I do not have differences

I do not have differences with dinatab. My issue is that he/she is clearly a troll. That's not negative, it's just the way it is.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

perhaps you'd like

to present some evidence?
and not just that you don't agree with dinatab's comments.

Easy. Go click on his/her

Easy. Go click on his/her profile and read their posts.

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that's not evidence

a member for 3 and a half years.
vegan.
animal rights advocate.
doesn't buy the boston conspiracy theory.

to my understanding a troll is someone who purposely joins a forum to cause trouble, demand attention. i don't see that from donatab. i do see that you strongly disagree with dinatab, but hey that's what makes the world go round. i also see dinatab is a ron paul supporter. i would imagine the diversity of folks inspired by ron paul is great. wouldn't you?

Whatever Davy.

You grow tiresome yourself.

If you took the time to read her comments you'd see that she meets your definition of a troll, regardless of how long she's been a member and regardless of who she claims to support.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

"Whatever Davy?"

you realize that speaks volumes?

of course i read her comments (why would you assume i didn't?) and i didn't get that at all. i might disagree with some comments but so what? it's only my opinion. and now i'm growing tiresome? will you label me a troll next? why don't we both give it a break and let new people to this thread decide on their own? this vendetta you have with dinatab is the most unpleasant item on the entire thread.

BTW, dinahtab is a

BTW, dinahtab is a troll.

Troll for the toothbrush industry, methinks.

Okay. You got me.

I'm a paid troll for hire.

btw, Currently I have troll openings available. If you're interested, my fee is $100 per insult.

And the grain producers

And the grain producers, big-pharma, AIPAC, Mossad and the establishment in general.

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forgive me Gale

but for some reason your post made me think of this photo i had seen earlier today.
https://twitter.com/salihughes/status/323733445597609984/pho...

factory raised meat and GMO grains . . .

will make anyone sick.

I am half and half. I eat no more than three servings/non-gluten grains/day--

and I eat meat about 4 days/week, but it's always free range or grassfed--more poultry and fish than beef; can't do pork at all, doesn't matter how natural it is--

I won't eat grains that aren't organic--

Eat lots of vegetables, as many raw as I can--

and fruit.

Eat no more than 1 T. of raw honey or maple syrup or agave/day--

don't use artificial sweeteners--

I still have health problems, but not as bad as before I started this diet--

before I went on this diet I ate very little meat, but it was all feedlot/factory--

and I ate whole grains, but most of them were glutenous--

I have yet to find the perfect diet. When I eat no carbs at all I lose so much weight that I can hardly move--

can't even sit down I'm so boney--

wasn't happy at all on that--

felt like my head was going to fall off--

I started adding some grains and not eating so much meat (even 'natural') and I did better, but I haven't eaten any gluten grains for two years--

no sugar--

I think it's an individual thing; if I don't eat at least 2 servings of organic rice or millet or non-GMO organic corn/day--

my weight goes so low you can't see me if I stand sideways--

but if I try to go without meat I can't do that either--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Nothing odd about good

Nothing odd about good health.

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That's odd.

Ever since I stopped eating meat, I have been feeling much better, looking much better, my clothes fit better, my mood is better, and I have more energy than I've had in years! The same goes for my husband since he gave up meat. Even my chronic neck pain has subsided significantly and my chronic headaches (I used to live on aspirin and Aleve) left and haven't come back since giving up meat!

The paleo diet did absolutely nothing for us, except that it made us both gain weight and feel sluggish. And we're not alone.

BTW, Do you work in the meat industry or do you just own stock in it? I'm asking because you're always pushing meat on DP.

I agree. This post is a

I agree. This post is a bunch of nonsense...

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

You McDougallistas are a trip

So a guy is very ill and has ulcerative colitis, then changes his diet and gets much healthier and the ulcerative colitis goes away, and it's nonsense?

You probably didn't even listen to the clip did you?

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Problem is dinahtab, your diet has wrecked your brain.

"BTW, Do you work in the meat industry or do you just own stock in it? I'm asking because you're always pushing meat on DP."

You ask this same silly question of me over and over and can't seem to comprehend my answer.

Hey, McDougall has a gut...

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/13671_1015132878...

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Tell that to Asia...

...where they consume a much higher percentage of carbs and a much lower percentage of meat than the Western diet. Carbs burn off quickly; protein and fat remain.

But if you want to ignore science, history, and all the billions of slim people in Asia and other parts of the world living on high carb diets, then how about looking at the high protein gurus:

Cordain, inventor of the Paleo diet (Atkins diet minus the dairy), is overweight.
Sally Fallon, another high protein guru, is obese.
Barry Sears, inventor the Zone Diet, is very overweight.
Robert Atkins was 60 pounds overweight when he passed away.
William Davis is overweight.

While you're taking a look at them, notice also their skin.

In most of Asia sweet dishes

In most of Asia sweet dishes and desserts are not very common and their portions are pretty small so you have to account for that.

My flatmate in college was a South Korean and though he ate mountains of rice, he did not touch anything sweet and had six packs for most of the time.

I used to jump from diet to diet and though Atkins (extreme low carb) got me abs. I used to suffer from a lot of lethargy. The three months I was on it, my productivity really went down.

Now I eat a traditional diet of rice, chapatis (wheat flatbread) and lentils with cooked vegetables. Now I have plenty of energy but I have to do intense calisthenics everyday to maintain my weight. On Atkins, even after giving up exercise I lost weight without suffering muscle loss.

Atkins was expensive though. I don't have time to cook so I was spending around $20 a day on food. In comparison I now spend around $4 a day which includes the cost of hiring a cook to make breakfast, lunch and dinner.

So weighing up all the options I'd say a traditional diet is cheaper, you are more adapted for it and is readily available so that might be best for most people.

For short term weight loss, I found Atkins very good.

A rice based diet seems to suit my stomach more than wheat based which causes a bit of bloating.

Fruit-sometimes, sugar- social occasions, alcohol- social occasions, and with soda.

Ok, one weird fact. Under Atkins I felt much more hydrated without increasing my water intake. My mouth always felt fresh even when I woke up from a daytime nap. I even forgot to brush one night and still my mouth smelled and felt fresh. No easy carbs for bacteria to break down in the mouth. I didn't get ketosis breath either which was awesome.

I used to jump from diet to

I used to jump from diet to diet and though Atkins (extreme low carb) got me abs. I used to suffer from a lot of lethargy. The three months I was on it, my productivity really went down.

As Mary Vernon likes to say, the Chet Atkins diet... Not consuming enough dietary fat and probably way too much protein can produce the results you described.