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Robb Wolf discusses the Paleo diet and health issues

I urge everyone to actually listen to the clip.

Robb Wolf - “I became very ill eating a vegan diet. I had ulcerative colitis, IBS and a host of other problems. I had started eating a vegan diet thinking this was a healthy way of eating. At the time, I was a research biochemist, and someone suggested that my problems might be resolved with the adoption of an ancestral (Paleo) way of eating. Within a few weeks of adopting a Paleo diet, my ulcerative colitis was gone, as were my other health concerns. I’ve been eating this way for 15 years now and have experienced better health than at any previous point in my life. Although the Paleo diet advocates the consumption of animal products, it is a thoughtful way of eating congruent with both ethics and sustainability, and I make this a large part of the education I provide.”

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Nope, had quite a bit of oil

Nope, had quite a bit of oil in my diet. Maybe when I'm older it'll work better for me. When I went onto carbs again I was like superman in the gym!

I followed the Atkins diet pretty closely. We have mostly lean meats here so I compensated by adding more oil and butter in my diet. It worked completely, I lost around 8 kgs over 3 months and got abs without doing anything except pushups and squats in my room.

A lot of lethargy is an exaggeration but I'd say I lacked the kind of energy I had before or after.

re: Tell that to Asia...

Beneficial Effects of an 8-Week, Very Low Carbohydrate Diet Intervention on Obese Subjects

Aim. To investigate the effects of weight loss during an 8-week very low carbohydrate diet (VLCD) on improvement of metabolic parameters, adipose distribution and body composition, and insulin resistance and sensitivity in Chinese obese subjects... Conclusion. Eight weeks of VLCD was an effective intervention in obese subjects. These beneficial effects may be associated with enhanced hepatic and whole-body lipolysis and oxidation.

Oh, No.

Maybe you'd better post this study where the billions of Asian people can see it so they'll switch from those fattening carbs to the Western high-protein/high-cholesterol diet.

If you know about proteins, carbs, and fats, then you know what burns off and what doesn't. That's why Atkins dieters almost always wind up gaining back the weight and then some. That's why high protein results in sluggishness and high carb results in more energy. That's why all the great runners and athletes consume carbs before their sports events. One doesn't have to be a scientist to know this.

If you know about proteins,

If you know about proteins, carbs, and fats, then you know what burns off and what doesn't. That's why Atkins dieters almost always wind up gaining back the weight and then some. That's why high protein results in sluggishness and high carb results in more energy. That's why all the great runners and athletes consume carbs before their sports events. One doesn't have to be a scientist to know this.

Like your demigod Campbell, you're using a strawman argument. Nobody is advocating a high protein diet. The dangers of excessive protein deamination is well known.

Mobilization of Fat Stores

...the mobilization of fat from adipose tissue is inhibited by numerous stimuli. The most significant inhibition is that exerted upon adenylate cyclase by insulin. When an individual is in the well fed state, insulin released from the pancreas prevents the inappropriate mobilization of stored fat. Instead, any excess fat and carbohydrate are incorporated into the triacylglycerol pool within adipose tissue.

Pathway of mitochondrial β-oxidation

The oxidation of fatty acids yields significantly more energy per carbon atom than does the oxidation of carbohydrates. The net result of the oxidation of one mole of oleic acid (an 18-carbon fatty acid) will be 146 moles of ATP (2 mole equivalents are used during the activation of the fatty acid), as compared with 114 moles from an equivalent number of glucose carbon atoms.

Au Contraire

Atkins and Paleo (a spinoff of the Atkins diet) advocate a very high-protein diet, much higher than the body requires.

http://www.organicauthority.com/health/low-carb-paleo-diet-u...

i love the judge

but let's keep this honest: he is also taking a appetite suppressor called factor 4 a bunch of times a day.

that wouldn't appeal to me, but if the judge looks and feels better i'm happy for him.

Paleo (a spinoff of the

Paleo (a spinoff of the Atkins diet)

Didn't realize Dr. Atkins was over 10,000 years old when he died...

Skin?

look at the paleo guru's neck!

go to the close-up at 1:09
is he having trouble breathing too?
i don't mean to be rude but the dude looks
way unhealthy; maybe he has a medical condition
or something, but he should not be preaching a diet looking like
that, seriously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xP1pt6Uy9M

Look at this Paleo protege's

Look at this Paleo protege's gut... ;-)

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

Paleo Diet Before and After


Paleo Diet Before and After Pictures: My Weightloss Transformation

That means...

...absolutely nothing. No dairy, no sugar, limit alcohol -- the Paleo diet amounts to fewer calories. It's a scam just like Atkins.

Only these scams don't just take your money; they put your chances of heart disease and cancer at much greater risk. Time to wake up and look at the actual research, not at what the scam pushers say.

...fewer calories.Which

...fewer calories.

Which metabolic process uses "calories"?

The science of obesity: what do we really know about what makes us fat? An essay by Gary Taubes

Any regulatory defect that drove people to gain weight, Rony noted, would induce them to take in more calories than they expend. “Positive caloric balance would be, then, a result rather than a cause of the condition.”

Yeah she's a cutie!

Yeah she's a cutie!

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

lookin'

good.

my feeling is that whatever you choose the sticking to it is
what's most important. we've all seen health gurus become fat and out of shape, yet they still show up for interviews and seminars. i find that sad.

stick-to-it-ness is important in all endeavors i've found.

go to the close-up at 1:09 is

go to the close-up at 1:09
is he having trouble breathing too?
i don't mean to be rude but the dude looks
way unhealthy; maybe he has a medical condition
or something, but he should not be preaching a diet looking like
that, seriously.

How is your commentary relevant to what Cordain was talking about? Chip on your shoulder much?


http://youtu.be/-xP1pt6Uy9M

Exactly.

Cordain looks awful. I don't mean to be cruel but he's fat and his skin looks bad. This is what the young people who follow his diet will look like if they keep listening to him.

And to think if they would only cut out the meat and increase the carbs, they could look like this (who's much older than Cordain, though you'd never know it):

http://youtu.be/EqKNfyUPzoU

Picture of Cordain from 2011

Cordain looks awful. I don't mean to be cruel but he's fat and his skin looks bad.

You're just prejudice, not necessarily cruel. You should just come to terms with your inability to judge information objectively may be related to your diet.

http://www.dietdoctor.com/what-does-loren-cordain-and-lindeb...

Is that the best pix you could find?

I gather you spent some time searching for that one.

Look at the picture of him from his book and compare that to him today. Or better yet, look at this video and notice the other high-protein gurus, compare them to the vegan gurus; then ask yourself honestly who you'd rather look like:

http://youtu.be/2zVxA6yipv4

i said i don't mean to be rude

that's not something a chip carrier says up front unless you're insisting on reading everything in a exchange as a negative. i'm tying to learn something on this thread. ..evidently you're not paying attention to the conversation. you might want to look at what i'm replying to before typing out your knee jerk reaction..

You're comparing children?

Sisson and Wolf? Don't make me laugh.

As for Wallach, he looks overweight, don't you think? I'd hate to see what his arteries look like. How anyone could compare him to John McDougall and his wife, who both look fabulous, is beyond me.

Why you are constantly advocating that people eat meat and why you are constantly spreading junk science on the so-called "benefits" of eating meat -- either you have a financial stake in the meat industry (or the paleo diet business) or you're just a bit odd.

I'm advocating people not eating grains

Some aspects of one's build are genetics.

McDougall and his wife look awful. Plain and simple. If you think otherwise, you're in denial.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/13671_1015132878...

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

McDougall and his wife look fantastic!

I hope, God willing, when I get to their age, I look as good. Anyone who actually looks at them and reads your comment would know that I'm not the one who's in denial.

I'm sure there are some who think the Grim Reaper

I'm sure there are some who think the Grim Reaper looks fantastic as well.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

we have different views on "awful"

call me crazy but this (like way too many americans) is what i'd call awful.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8...

Crazy.

Crazy.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

don't get me wrong

i have nothing against hefty folks, i just don't see it as healthy, and when they are pushing an eating plan and have fallen into weight gain i either have to question their methods, or at least call them on not following their original ideas.

How is any of that verifiable?

Cordain, inventor of the Paleo diet (Atkins diet minus the dairy), is overweight.
Sally Fallon, another high protein guru, is obese.
Barry Sears, inventor the Zone Diet, is very overweight.
Robert Atkins was 60 pounds overweight when he passed away.
William Davis is overweight.

How is any of that verifiable? How do your own metabolic markers look?
Medical Tests Recommended by Dr. Ron Rosedale

• Leptin: 4 to 6 ng/dL
• Fasting Insulin: 10 IU/mL and below
• HbgA1c: 4.5 percent or less
• Glucose: 70 to 85 mg/dL
• Free T3: 2.2 to 3.0 pg/mL
• Basal Body Temperature: 96.8 to 97.5 degrees F and below
• IGF-1: 90 to 360 ng/mL (normal for those aged forty and over)
• Norepinephrine: 250 to 350 pg/mL (the lower end of the range is optimal)
• Highly Sensitive C-Reactive Protein: less than 1.0
• Triglycerides: 100 mg/dL
• Homocysteine: less than 6 umol/L
• Blood Urea Nitrogen: 17 mg/dL
• Creatinine: 0.7 to 1.0 mg/dL
• Uric Acid: 3 to 7 mg/dL
• Liver Enzymes: ALP 44 to 147 IU/l, ALT 5 to 30 IU/l, AST 10 to 34 IU/l
• Cholesterol: HDL higher than 40 mg/dL, high proportion of large LDL to small dense LDL

If you have eyes, it's verifiable

You don't need charts to know if somebody is overweight:

http://youtu.be/2zVxA6yipv4