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Robb Wolf discusses the Paleo diet and health issues

I urge everyone to actually listen to the clip.

Robb Wolf - “I became very ill eating a vegan diet. I had ulcerative colitis, IBS and a host of other problems. I had started eating a vegan diet thinking this was a healthy way of eating. At the time, I was a research biochemist, and someone suggested that my problems might be resolved with the adoption of an ancestral (Paleo) way of eating. Within a few weeks of adopting a Paleo diet, my ulcerative colitis was gone, as were my other health concerns. I’ve been eating this way for 15 years now and have experienced better health than at any previous point in my life. Although the Paleo diet advocates the consumption of animal products, it is a thoughtful way of eating congruent with both ethics and sustainability, and I make this a large part of the education I provide.”



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Over 30 years, I tried many diets, including low-fat, weight watchers, macrobiotic, raw, fruitarian, vegan, and vegetarian.

I grew very ill, and doctors could not figure out what was wrong with me.

I did years of research on my own, and I decided to try the Primal diet, then finally, the Paleo diet.

After 3.5 years on a mostly Paleo diet, most of my chronic health issues are gone, including the three biggies: depression, daily horrible acid reflux - for over ten years, and constant joint pain all over my body.

Please don't assume you know everything about diet, or that one-size-fits-all. There is much to learn.

But if you are the least bit curious, or if you have lingering health issues, I urge you to learn about the Paleo diet. It's changed many people's lives.

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and there are many testimonials

about vegans and vegetarians (who take B12) & who got in shape, became healthy, off their medications etc. what works for one does not work for another.

Paleo is a variation of the

Paleo is a variation of the Atkins low carb regime isn't it?

I did it once and it worked really well but lack of energy is a big problem since I really like to work out a lot. Also, having to take fibre supplements just to pass stools is a bitch.

No, not really.

There is a lot more to it than that. It's not a low-carb diet. If you needed fiber to go to the bathroom, you weren't doing a Paleo diet. There are many athletes on a Paleo diet. They just learn when and how to use higher starch veggies.

“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
― Albert Camus

30% of US is gluten intolerant. No wheat, barley, rye or oats.

Asthma, gall bladder or appendix removal is a warning light. Constipation, asthma, dermatitis, psoriasis, low energy are other warning signs.

My 3000 calorie diet includes 200gm of saturated fat a day.

To burn a gram of fat the body needs 6 units of oxygen, to burn a gram of carb the body needs 10 units of oxygen.

Doubling the carb load requires doubling the nutrient requirements and increases oxidative stress.

Limit protein to 1 gram per pound of body fat a day. The rest is fruit and vegetables.

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source of 30% ?

i've been seeing 5 to 10% in various articles and reports.

I'll have do dig up the numbers.

First I'll look here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gbX86j2DYc

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Reflux and joint pain

Plus mood swings and depression and brain fog are sometimes symptoms of gluten intolerance.

“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
― Albert Camus

Yes. Gluten intolerance reduces gut absorption and disease.

Salt restricted diet leads to lack of acid reflux disease.

Sodium chloride is need to make the stomach acid that kills stomach pathogens. If a colony of pathogens exists they eat the food you eat and the froth produced tastes acidic and damages the esophagus.

Avoid carbonated drinks an hour before, during and after eating. Carbonated drinks reduce stomach acid needed to kill pathogens. Salt to taste.

For those with gluten intolerance acts on the gut like a poison ivy salad would to someone with poison ivy intolerance. Cereal Killers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gbX86j2DYc

Even wheat dust from clothes washed together can cause problems. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gbX86j2DYc

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Paul, check this out.

http://experiencelife.com/article/paleo-vs-vegan/

Got the link from another DPer.

It's interesting to note than even of the vegan advocates, only McDougall is advocating high grain consumption. He cites grains and ancient cultures. Even if one disregards the diseases of those ancient grain eaters, he must be in denial regarding the fact that today's modern grains are not the same as the ancient versions and they're much more destructive.

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Thanks Paul.

I am going all in. http://paulsplace.my90forlife.com/

Science based diet backed by 297 peer-reviewed articles in major publications is the most compelling case I've seen presented. See Rare Earth's Forbidden Cures 1994.

I began personal testing last July including 90 essential nutrients on a regular basis. I started the pig arthritis Pak 3 weeks ago for my rheumatoid arthritis.

My wife was so impressed with my results after 4 days that she and my son started 2 weeks ago and the are pleased as punch.

It doesn't really matter what your diet is. Just avoid the bad stuff and supplement with the 90 essential nutrients.

I listen every day: http://ksco.com/dead-doctors-dont-lie

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Way to go Paul. Good luck

Way to go Paul. Good luck with it.

I started out listening there and then went to GCN where I also listen to Ben Fuchs.

http://www.gcnlive.com/

http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/brightSide/

Doc helped me with the gluten issue, Ben helped with my gut issues even more. He's really good. You should check him out.

Cheers!

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Wallach, Glidden and Fuchs solid science based longetivity

Paul, have you seen Blake interview Wallach. Great review of the science of digestion. College level review based on volume of not complexity of topic.

Lots of details and interesting facts & findings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gbX86j2DYc

He weighs in on the Paleo - Vegan debate. I think he wins, what do you think?

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Yep, great video. I agree.

Yep, great video. I agree.

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Paleo is a variation of the

Paleo is a variation of the Atkins low carb regime isn't it?

You have it backwards.

I did it once and it worked really well but lack of energy is a big problem since I really like to work out a lot.

Obviously not eating enough fat.

Also, having to take fibre supplements just to pass stools is a bitch.

Your ability to pass stools have more to do with healthy gut bacteria than it does with fiber.
How To Overcome Chronic And Intermittent Constipation

"The rainforest in your gut: A brief tour through your intestinal biome, why it’s messed up, and how to fix it" by Dr. BG & TG from Ancestral Health Society on Vimeo.

Excellent videos.

Excellent videos.

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Right, superset, subset

Right, superset, subset etc.

The thing is on a normal diet, I have an extremely hard boiled stomach.

You might be right about fat. In our diet we don't have beef and pork, which leaves chicken and mutton both of which are lean meats.

Not really the same as

There are some similarities, but not really the same as Atkins. He addresses that in the clip. He also addresses the need for higher carbs for those who work out.

Yeah if one is having to supplement with fiber to have "things" go right, that's a sign that one is consuming something that their body does not like.

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Yeah, carbs and fiber tend to

Yeah, carbs and fiber tend to co-exist, if you're not getting one, you're not getting the other either, though Atkins addresses this through supplements and gradual uptake in carbs.

I think the paleolithic diet works for good health but not because our ancestors used to eat like this or anything. It is pretty well established that early man mostly ate veggies. He wasn't fast or strong enough to get meat on a very regular basis.

Paleo diet is just good nutrition. Cutting out all refined sugars is the most important step I think one can take if they have a tendency to gain weight (which is everybody right? =P).

I'm sure you'll have seen it but in case you haven't check out 'The bitter truth'

It is pretty well established

It is pretty well established that early man mostly ate veggies. He wasn't fast or strong enough to get meat on a very regular basis.

Unlikely. The selection pressure would be for those capable of hunting and gathering the better fuel source: fat. Nature will optimize on the better fuel source. That means those capable of obtaining it will have a better chance of passing on their genes.


Man, The Fat Hunter

Man the fat hunter or man the cholesterol hunter.

Our neurons are coated with myelin made from cholesterol.

Building bigger brains takes more cholesterol.

To run faster, to reproduce and to reproduce accurately all require cholesterol.

Adrenalin, testosterone, estrogen and vitamin D are made from cholesterol.

But a bigger brain needs more Omega-3 fatty acids. Seafood is rich in EPA and DHA. Man the fisher?

It think I'll go soft poach some eggs in butter.

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Yep, most Paleo folks know

Yep, most Paleo folks know that lots of veggies is a good thing.

That's for sure. Sugar and other refined carbs are very bad news.

I'll check that out. Thanks.

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my personal feeling

is that as long as you follow that: "lots of veggies is good"
you'll do well. when i eat lots of them i have no desire for junk food.

100%

carnivore.

Hmmm BBQ ribs yummy

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Neither.

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This conversation is beyond paleo vs. vegan

I think there are many aspects of diet that can't be addressed from a simple "paleo vs. vegan" analysis.

I think foremost, local and in-season are crucial.

Beyond that, growing your own, helping others grow their own.

Beyond that, how much do you give to feeding those that cannot (for whatever reason) feed themselves.

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good post

nice to read something besides snark, gobbledygook info and either/or thinking.

8 principles of good health

water
sun
air
nutrition
relaxation
exercise
moderation (or balance)
a spiritual sense (or VAIs vital absorbing interests)

main list culled from the bible

In case you are interested,

In case you are interested, here's the link to the article.

http://experiencelife.com/article/paleo-vs-vegan/

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not one mention of water.

not one mention of water. most curious.

No need to try to outsmart thirst. I drink when I'm thirsty.