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Pre-Crime USSA: 34 yo NY Librarian's Guns Confiscated for Legally Prescribed Zoloft!

No Gun Confiscation via Medical Registry? Right...

Hey, if his guns were confiscated for simply being prescribed Zoloft, isn't that in fact a de facto admission by the Ruling Regime that in fact psychotropics are at the heart of 'potential violence' issue?

"We're not coming for your Guns! We'll never use registry to come after your Guns!"...er...until they DO: Welcome to Pre-Crime USSA!

Gun permit suspended over medication

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Updated: Tuesday, 09 Apr 2013, 6:49 PM EDT
Published : Tuesday, 09 Apr 2013, 6:49 PM EDT

Al Vaughters
Posted by: Eli George

AMHERST, N.Y. (WIVB) - The NYS SAFE Act is billed as a necessary law to protect the public and keep guns out of the hands of the wrong people.

But Hamburg attorney Jim Tresmond says his client was notified by letter that his gun permit was suspended upon the recommendation of State Police, who learned the man is on anti-anxiety medication.

"Claiming that he had taken some psychotropic medications, and that he no longer could be eligible for the pistol permit," Tresmond said.

UPDATE 1: More on suspension of man's gun permit

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Updated: Wednesday, 10 Apr 2013, 9:25 PM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 10 Apr 2013, 6:41 PM EDT

Al Vaughters
Posted by: Eli George

AMHERST, N.Y. (WIVB) - An Amherst man had his guns confiscated by the state, which claimed he was too dangerous to own them.

"David", a 34-year-old college librarian, had no idea State Police were investigating him and would recommend his pistol permit be suspended until he got the notice in the mail. Now he has to fight to get it back.

Attorney James Tresmond said, "'Due process' should come before the suspension. That is where due process comes in - before your rights are taken, due process must occur. That is our Constitutional right, not the reverse."

After meeting with Erie County's Licensing Officer, Supreme Court Justice William Boller, Tresmond says State Police recommended David's license suspension based on his prior use of a widely-prescribed anti-anxiety medication. Tresmond says the new SAFE Act requires mental health providers inform authorities.

UPDATE 2: David Lewis' Permit and Guns Restored!

Police wrongly pulled man's gun permit

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Updated: Wednesday, 10 Apr 2013, 10:16 PM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 10 Apr 2013, 9:19 PM EDT

Rachel Kingston
Posted by: Eli George

AMHERST, N.Y. (WIVB) - State Police forced an Amherst man to turn in his guns after suspending his pistol permit over anti-anxiety medication. But now they say it was all a misunderstanding.

Erie County Clerk Chris Jacobs said, "Today, we all look like fools."

"David," a 34-year-old college librarian, recently had his pistol permit taken away. Erie County's Licensing Officer, Supreme Court Justice William Boller, was following a recommendation from State Police that David's permit be revoked because he used anti-anxiety medication in the past.

But then, just before the close of business Wednesday, County Clerk Chris Jacobs received a voicemail from State Police in Albany, saying it was all a mistake and that they had the wrong man.

** Right, the NY State PoliceState went after a man and his guns, after illegally violating his Constitutional right to privacy...by accident. Yeah. Okie Dokie Smokey.

Here's the proprietor of TTAG (the world's most popular pro-gun blog), Robert Farago's take:

UPDATE Keeping Our Powder Dry: The Strange Case of David Lewis

Posted on April 10, 2013 by Robert Farago

“The NYS SAFE Act is billed as a necessary law to protect the public and keep guns out of the hands of the wrong people,” wivb.com reports. “But Hamburg attorney Jim Tresmond says his client was notified by letter that his gun permit was suspended upon the recommendation of State Police, who learned the man is on anti-anxiety medication.” With gun owners suffering prohibitions and regulation and fearing federal infringement, this story has gone viral. “Here’s one from The Department of We ****ing Told You So!” a TTAG reader wrote in an email heads-up. Yes, well, I’m not so sure . . .

When I first wrote this post, I hadn’t spoken with Jim Tresmond. I knew him as the Buffalo lawyer who went online looking for Empire State gun guys to participate in a class-action lawsuit against the SAFE Act. I reached out and he responded.

Tresmond and I spoke at length about the story. He emailed me the redacted document featured in the news report above [click here to read it] and provided some more details of the incident. ...

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so if your born with anxiety you lose your rights?

what kind of nonsense is this? please call the cops and get these legislators or public officials arrested!

This scenario:

push the meds(easily prescribed for every little thing)/get rich(a little side bonus)/use the meds to ban guns(what they wanted all along)

should be THE example used when one defines the Hegelian Dialectic process.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Pennyless Defensless Robot.

Mass produced, stamped, categorized, pigeon-holed, on welfare, the NY State worker bee. No secret any longer. So politicians forget they are dealing with people, not machines. People THINK.

I had mentioned this recently in another post...Caveat Emptor.



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No government

will ever be a competent judge of mental health. Incredibly stupid.

The lawyer is dead on: Confiscation comes after a trial, not before.

Yeah.... especially not a government consisting of a bunch

of self-obsessed and deluded sociopaths!

What would the Founders do?

"Here, you can have your stupid permit back"

"But I'm keeping my firearms."

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RON PAUL 2012

If it requires a permit, it's not a right, merely a privilege

granted to you by your masters.

Sad.

Regulations

I would suggest regulations in general are pre-emptive / preventative and are hence in the domain of pre-crime. As such, we've put up with it for a long long time... Nothing new...

I'd really like to know.......

how many public officials are on these meds.

write your rep

and have them propose it.

Never forget

Every dictatorship - socialist experiment has crumbled due to it's own stupidity.

And the Socialist States of America will follow suit.

They self indict.

They testify against themselves.

And eventually they execute themselves.

If this wasn't so serious

it would be a joke. The State is confiscating this man's guns and his pistol permit, and then charging him a $3.00 suspension processing fee. Not only are they violating this man's 2nd amendment right, the State is making money in the process.

Talk about adding insult to injury...