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Could Republican Senator Rand Paul be the next president of the United States? (The 700 Club 4/11/13)

from the 4/11/13 edition of The 700 Club on the Christian Broadcasting Network


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sharkhearted's picture

Rand is the man, granger.

He may not be his father....but he is orders of magnitude better than what anything we have today.

I think he's great!

Not looking for any leader here because I REJECT authoritarianism....but I think he would make a great president.

All you have to do is look at the content of his filibuster and you will see the apple don't fall far from that tree!

Rand Paul 2016

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

(((((((((sharkhearted)))))))

(I love your pictures)

I see Rand as a leader, well maybe not just Rand.. to me, a leader is someone who is going places, doing things that I have not, but might like to, or have an interest. It's really that simple.

When I was a kid, my leader was Jerry Lopez. Man could he surf. And I thought his lightening bolt surfboard were just the coolest of them all. I wanted to surf big waves. I once got picked up hitch hiking by Jerry and a friend of his.. I was citting class to go watch the surf on the North Shore, and they were heading home to the North Shore.. I could hardly believe I was in the same van. I surfed until I had a sinus operation that beached me.. and it wasn't until then I actually went beyond my grassroots activism being beach clean ups.

Now.. growing up in the military, with a self admitted, "mean SOB" who I only knew as a base commander.. and I admit, the Navy LOVED him.. his men LOVED him, and many considered him a great leader, but like you, I rejected the authority, and I rebelled hard.

Now, looking back.. and under the influence of Ron Paul.. Ron Paul also inspired me to not just join the GOP, but to actually check out the Church.. the Catholic Church.. apostolistic.. means there is authority and heirarchy.. and I'm begining to get this picture.. that since we are kids, we are misled.. Santa Clause, Easter Bunny.. TV shows.. we have been programmed to rebel and reject leadership.. admitting one has a leader makes one "weak".. but it's the exact opposite. What has been going on is the dumbing down, but rejection of leadership has isolated people and made them responsible for things beyong their ability. Like 911 Truth. Without leadership, there will be no 911 truth no matter what evidense because they system that we have does not give us leaders who take responsibility.

I think we need leaders to hold accountable, and letting them stay in office to "vote them out" is not a solution.

Finally.. Though there are many on DP who post about 911 Truth, you are the leading voice to me because even though you are very passionate about 911 Truth, you are rational; you're arguments stand on their own... so I see your [passion as frustration over the lack of leadership to actually win justice.

I think Ron Paul's presidential runs were all about setting Rand up.. I would have never gone for a guy like Rand 8 years ago. It's been a wide learning curve to come around to Ron Paul's message on abortion/pro-life, ending the fed, what is a Republican.. hell I never thought I would ever be a Republican.. but now I am glad that I am.. and I also think what is really exciting is the GOP is changing, we are winning, we are the future, and with leadership, 911 truth will have a better shot at actual justice than ever before.

((((((((((((sharkhearted!))))))))))))

sharkhearted's picture

Very eloquently put, Granger.

And thank you for your nice words to me!

I would say just the opposite however, rather than programmed to rebel--(the Liberty movement is a rebellion)--we have been programmed to be obedient and accept the "authorities" judgment and eminent wisdom.

This is part of the conditioning, brainwashing, and re-education that governments (which are nothing more than force and power) try to program the masses. For example the Department of Education.

Not saying that some "authority" is not OK, if people consent to being under an authority....such as the authority of the Rule of Law (as long as the laws mirror Natural Law and that the laws apply to ALL...including the president, judges, and congress!)

However what I am rejecting actually is Authoritarianism in all forms. For thousands of years, humans have been enslaved by this errant philosophy...and from the Divine Right of Kings in medieval times to the "Executive Privilege" claims of our current war-criminal president and attorney general.

Hopefully...as humans evolve (hopefully) we will move away from a hierarchical form of leadership, as Authoritarianism looses its influence and withers away...and move toward more free association and volunteerism that the Founders possessed to begin this great country.

Bottom line: I don't want a leader in a president. I just want a facilitator.

I think we are kind of saying the same thing in different ways....because good minds think alike!

:-)

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

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If the system is not just, that what good is a facilitator?

If some ran for president that had a plan and ability to lead America to a just system, you would oppose because volunteers and free association can accomplish a just system without leadership?

I believe some people are born leaders, and others are born followers, or blamers, appeasers, and they may play many roles throughout one's lifetime depending on strenghts and weaknesses. To me, leadership is natural part, organic part of being human.

I don't have a problem with just authority. I have a big problem with tyranny, corruption, and violence.

((((((((((((sharkhearted)))))))))))) Thank you for the kind words.

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Again, Granger...my problem is not with "authority"

Although I don't like even the use of the term "authority" (I HATE it)....LOL. (Case in point during Hurricane Sandy [Hook]....when that storm was approaching Obama said..."Make sure you listen to your AUTHORITIES as to what to do and where to go"...and I was like cursing at the television at that point....how STUPID is that argument: The real deal is that if people are too DUMB to get out of the way of the storm, then that is Mother Nature's thinning of the herd. Please, mr. social welfare subsidize stupidity president....please GET OUT OF THE WAY and SHUT UP.

My BIG BEEF is with AUTHORITARIANISM....which has shaped our world view for many thousands of years...and of course been the hotbed for tyranny...is that it is a fake and flawed argument. Kings are not divine. Presidents do not possess "executive privilege."

The problem with "just authority" is that it is not often...if not ever....just.

Power corrupts. And absolute power corrupts absolutely. I mean take the current example of the RNC refusing to abolish the totalitarian rules shoved down our throats at the last national convention.

Case in point. And it was passed and so Rand and other liberty bright lights are lost in the sea of the disgusting bureaucracy the Republican party has become....and not dissimilar to the same bureaucracy that pushed away his father in 2012.

And true, some people are born leaders and some followers however that does not diminish the role of either one.

However again...humans are evolving with the age of information that they don't need an FDR (thank bloody God) telling them what to do and how to think.

THAT IS MY POINT: THE MILLENIA LONG AGE OF AUTHORITARIANISM....IS DEAD!!!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

For over a deacade

I had a "Question Authorty" sticker on my car.. I'm pretty sure I still have one..

Who is the authority to question about 911?

I think it's one thing to have authority with leadership, and another to have authority, "because I told you so".

Might the people be ready for another George Washington?

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Who is the authority to question about 9-11?

Well, it was the 9-11 Commission, but that turned out to be a whitewash cover-up.

Then it was NIST. The NIST report is the worst example of scientific fraud and omission of key evidence in a mass murder crime scene...the world has ever known.

The only "Authority"...will be US. ALL of us. The grassroots level of investigation that has and is currently being undertaken in regards to 9-11, is unprecedented.

Americans, by nature, we don't like to be told what to do.

Obama will be the last Authoritarian president, this country has ever known. That's why I like Rand. He, like his father, is a facilitator, not an "authority".

The whole millennia-old idea of "authority" will become a thing of the past...once humans evolve past violence and unsolicited aggression and government force.

Should a new George Washington, Ron Paul, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander the Great, or any other charismatic figure come along...I would listen to them and glean from their wisdom....however, I would not "follow" them...or let them be my "leader" or my "authority."

The whole idea of lead/follow is antiquated and outdated and outmoded.

Granger, my humble opinion is that you should put that bumper sticker back on your car. :-) "Authority" is almost ALWAYS corrupt and at minimum...it should always be kept in check by questioning it and challenging it.

I like the words of Thomas Paine, the best: "Governments are, at best, a necessary evil...and, at worst, an intolerable one."

{{{{{{{{{Granger}}}}}}}}}}}}}

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Did you really expect something from the 911 comm?

I do question authority, and I also find refuge in authority because I am not an island and I don't have all the answers, and sometimes I get lost and need leadership.. and sometimes I lead.. working the soup kitchen. The kitchen is the Catholic Church Parrish Hall.. and I've ben there long enough to have some authority. My style.. I encourage people to have fun working.. I serve them.. get what they need, wash pots and pans.. let others decide what to cook.. give ithers the opportunity to thrive in what they can do.. and when we hit a wall.. which sometimes we do.. no one knows how to make something out of what we have.. something breaks,, accident.. my leadership becomes very apparent because I get the job done.. and yet, the real authority is the pastor.. who I keep informed abo9ut the needs and activites of the kitchen.. and I get what I need for the kitchen.. and it's a happy kitchen.. no one feels as if the are being succumbed to a power trip/ aithority.. good leadership you don't feel oppression.. you feel empowered. ((((((sharkhearted))))

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You are awesome, Granger.

Keep up the good work there, Granger.

True...the 9/11 Commission could not be trusted. Especially when it was originally appointed by Bush (after a year of resisting a commission) to appoint Henry Kissinger, one of the most glaring war criminals of the 20th Century. That went over like a lead balloon...and with good reason.

But the back-story to the Bush Administration resistance to an investigation to the worst unsolved mass murder event in American history...was that there were four New Jersey housewives who lost husbands in the WTC disaster who were the real Atlas Shrugged movers to FORCE a 9-11 commission.

Watch the documentary here:

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-press-for-truth/

Trouble is, the 9-11 Commission, taxpayer funded was one of the worst whitewashes ever...even to complete with other totalitarian regimes such as the Soviet Union.

The TAXPAYER funded 9-11 Commission 800 page report, made NO mention of the 'collapse' of WTC7, a third skyscraper that collapsed that day (sometimes at the speed of gravity), and a building that was not hit by a jet. HMMM.

My biggest beef is this:

9/11 = 3,000 people died on that day.
6,000 American troops killed because of that day.
200,000 Iraqis and Afghanis killed (many of them innocent)

10,000 of Ground Zero workers and first responders either sick or dying
50,000 of our troops injured, maimed, or lost limbs.

Total number of casualties because of 9/11: 269,000 souls (that is a VERY conservative estimate)

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Cantor-Fitzgerald

http://www.google.com/search?q=cantor+-fitzgerald&rls=com.mi...

gets me the most and no one talks about it

sharkhearted's picture

Indeed. I remember that. So tragic.

There's a back story to that, too. Cantor Fitzgerald was targeted for a reason, too.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg...

http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/fraud/911...

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

The answer is yes. And I

The answer is yes. And I didn't even have to watch the movie.