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whew! glad I got that out of my system...

..that was yesterday!!![ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HySI1B20vqw ]
Sorry if you missed it...my point of view wasn't very popular...oh well...

Back to the grind ...

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who died and left you

the judge of the creation?
how dare you claim to be a man of god,and judge something you did not create
you created nothing,you only re-recreate
so you judge the creator and the creation,there is no love in you
as you judge what the creator created as bad

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Jones this, Jones that

Take it for what it is, he is a "defeatist".

At least

You took it on the chin. Grinding!

Ron brought the Liberty movement together, Rand is expanding the crap out of it! :)

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The D&C crowd are transparent.

and

they are long-winded.

It must be hard not to overly compensate when one is in that position.

you're castigating me as "divide & conquer"? hah!!!

The AJ-ites are just as much "if you're not with us, you're against LIBERTY", similar to militant homosexuals too with their ad hominems and foul language and excessive name calling like Kokesh's little rant last night(against me, someone posted).

I'm in this because Ron Paul was a CHRISTIAN STATESMAN, period...I'm an individual, and Paul was the best man for the job...

There will be a government, whether any of us like it or not....we'd best put men of high moral character and trustworthiness, of great public and private reputation for personal MORAL self restraint and conduct...if we disagree on that; you're hopeless, not me.

Don't hammer my spiritual discernment of the infotainment clown AJ is, with some fantasy virtue that without him there would've been no distrust/disgust of government, or Ron Paul runs for POTUS!!!

I'll forever be the guy; lose the moral values of eternity that made us GREAT, lose your Liberty...because it's God-given....this Liberty movement is becoming a new tower of Babel, just a hodge podge of confusion and selfishness; the God of our founders won't honor that...so...I'll say my piece, AJ is TOXIC to this movement, and so is Kokesh....and you can all insult me for it, and find out the hard way...

I'm more than aware what awaits me for dissenting against this tyranny/takeover, I even know the origin of their rise to power over us....it's sad to see so many spiritually aligned with them through willful ignorance...

Whatever; I'm at peace with my conclusions, and reasons to warn others to stay away from those types...to each his own...it ain't helping, and I'm not dividing...

I've got a strong stomach so

I've got a strong stomach so AJ doesn't do much damage in my digestive process. But I'm baffled by the indigent minds who keep posting infowars drivel as journalism. It's not.

The sourcing is usually from elsewhere, and the elsewhere is usually another idgit site or blog. Astounding to me that folks who claim to be so against mainstream reporting are all cozy with AJ. Obviously such opinions are not based on such basic journalistic standards as siting actual sources, making causal links, understanding context. Sure, reporters make mistakes and they get called to task. With you AJ devotees, there's no calling to task.

o what do you folks who drink the AJ Koolaid base good reporting on?

We know that it's not documented sources. Not logical links. Not rationality. So what is it?

What attracts you to such "reporting"?

LMAO.... explain 'basic

LMAO....

explain 'basic journalistic standards' to me? You mean having the White House approve all news? Not questioning anything the government does? Not questioning the eligibility of the Pres. of the US? Not questioning how tall steel buildings can implode into their own footprints from a few light office fires?

You're right then...AJ doesn't follow basic journalistic standards.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Just start with citing

Just start with citing sources. The Infowars pieces I've fact checked often cite blogs. And they cite them as sources, not bothering to actually be a reporter, who tracks down primary sources.

So it's appropriate for a journalist to quote a person as saying something way out there. The quote is attributed and the reader knows that the veracity of the quote rests on the reputation of the source. Infowar pieces often repeat quotes from some blog writer who is passing along a quote supposedly from another source. Try tracking them back. Try to find out who actually said it. If and when you can actually track back to a real person with a real reputation, look at the context and the entirety of what that source said or wrote. By the way you will have to do all that work because Infowar writers are not reporters, they're clip-and-pasters. By the way, if you actually do the work of a reporter and track back to original sources, you will find that Infowars deliberately misconstrues over and over again.

I'm not saying that every reporter is pure, and I'm not saying that mistakes both honest and icky don't happen. I'm saying that AJ and his Infowars team most definitely have an agenda and that they are so into themselves that they don't even bother with basic journalist standards.

Test just the source citing and see for yourself.

Citing sources? So these

Citing sources? So these sources can end up like the DC Madam or Bradley Manning?

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

No. You don't have to even

No. You don't have to even bother with the high-profile sources. Just take any Infowars article and look at the sources the article cites -- it's some blog or some other citation-phobic site. You'll have to find key words and work your google seach skills to hunt down an original source. By the time you're two sources deep, you'll realize you're working harder than any Infowars reporter did to produce the story.

The last Infowars article I fact checked was some something about GMO corn being Oh-So-Bad based on a "report." The "report" was never cited, either in the Infowars piece or in the copy-paste websites of equally ill-repute that Infowars stole it from. I finally tracked down the source and called. The lead on this "report" told methat it was just a preliminary comparison his company -- which, by the way, is a company that basically sells non-GMO farming products -- did. In no way scientific and he's hoping the company will launch an actual scientific study of the subject his summer.

In other words, Infowars blasted a headline and article without knowing who it was from, or what dog that who had in the fight, or whether it was even a legitimate finding.

If AJ and his crew can't be bothered to tell the truth about a little non-GMO farm company's internal comparison, they sure suspects when it comes to truth telling about...well, everything.

Trust the big stuff by those who prove trustworthy in the small stuff. I've fact-checked four of Infowars articles now; None has passed even a sorority-level scrutiny.

If you want to believe, believe. Just don't pretend you're believing because you're interested in truth. Separate your needs and be as objective as possible. Fact check an Inforwars article back to primary sources, in context. See what you get.

I'd rather have Alex Jones

I'd rather have Alex Jones and crew style commentary and useful speculation rather than the grade school, whitewashed, mindless scripted speculation from the MSM

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Basic journalist ignored or distorted Ron Paul

but AJ had him on as often and gave him as much time as he wanted to speak freely. This disinfo troll wants us to believe that's not the way real journalist distinguish themselves; thereby slighting Dr. Paul for his numerous, lengthy interviews with Jones for well over a decade.

As for attacking his research sourcing, AJ had on his show an Austin NAACP President to describe his 20+ year friendship with Dr. Paul when tools this poster refers to as journalist tried to pin racist accusations on him during the '08 campaign. This is the kind of real journalism that those pretenders only wish they could compete with.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

So where are you getting your facts ?

Screw journalism, I just want the truth not the "spin"..I do my own journalism, best way to get the truth.

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

Holy crap. Just watched your vid regarding the radio show.

From around 3:35...

"We're gonna read what's on the Daily Paul. We're gonna talk about the personalities and the authors on the Daily Paul. We're gonna talk about the trolls on the Daily Paul. Um...you know, and uh.. read what they write and they can downvote it, you know, and we're gonna say why they're just a bunch of tools for the people for the status quo that are destroying this country. So we're gonna carry on the torch of liberty..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGwFjoYtMHM&list=UUCHTmTLbQq...

So you want to use the radio show as a platform to air your gripes to the world about who and what you don't like on Daily Paul? That's your idea of carrying the torch of liberty?

trolls = free speech, right?

Name calling, Alex Jones/Adam Kokesh defending, Rand Paul bashing, Christian/Bible mocking posts.....right? That's troll-ish .... and .... If there is a DEMAND for criticizing the daylights out of it, in the context that "RIDICULE is not often the test of truth", nor is agenda-driven propaganda; I should absolutely step up in INDIVIDUAL defense of my personal beliefs, worldview, opinion that neither Ron nor Rand Paul stand by grossly ignorant and reckless revolution talk, nor Christian-bashing etc. etc.

That's me, and I don't care if half of the DP doesn't appreciate what I bring to the table....I put my pants on one leg at a time too, like Bruce Dickinson!!!

Hahaha!!! Some in here wish I couldn't get over it, they need a punching bag....sad...

Creating the straw man...

that Alex Jones is some kind of leader of the liberty movement does not qualify you as some kind of hero martyr.

Alex Jones leads no one. He reads news stories, gives his opinion on the stories, and has lots of interesting guests. Ron Paul has been going on his show regularly for pushing two decades now. Alex Jones launched Ron Paul's 2008 presidential campaign on his show.

All you are doing is breaking a bunch of windmills...

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

i kind of agree

I think there is some value in what Alex does but I think he probably does more harm than good by turning people off. I feel the same way about all pundits who put their egos before everything else. They only work against the truth they DO tell by turning people away.

Basically...

you are attempting to emotionally beat up and abuse people into conforming to your dislike of Alex Jones. Go watch your own videos. You have serious social issues.

Alex warns people about things. You BEAT PEOPLE UP with words and emotions. Trying to make them cower in shame and feelings of stupidity.

If what you display in your videos is an indication of how you are in real life then I feel sorry for your kids...

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

Bravo!!

Well said...

buddy

~fist bump~

B)

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

Not to be some...

...kind of thought police or anything, but isn't that a bit of a low blow: 'I feel sorry for your kids..'? Talking about emotionally beating people up -- that's like a punch to the gut for someone to say that to a dad.

I don't personally think reacting against Alex or 'Alex trolls' like this is the best approach, but I do appreciate Patriots having the passion and willingness to step out and explore the potential for contributing with a radio show. I would hate to kill his enthusiasm for doing this by just piling on with a bunch of downvotes and squelching his interest.

Edit...just noticed you edited the phrasing regarding kids to soften it a bit. :)

No...

I thought long and hard before making my comment. I've been watching PatriotUnderGod's videos and exchanging communications with him for quite a while now.

His videos are painful to watch. He is condescending and condemnatory of nearly everyone. "Either change your behavior or you are a bad person and I will yell at you!!!!" ;(

Just look at the way he grits his teeth and crunches his lips in near fury and is almost spitting. The dude has issues.

And he has been playing this same game for quite a while now. He has real social issues. And I've watched his videos from the past and just watched his most recent one. You can see the anger, scorn and even contempt as he wields his tactic of trying to beat people up with accusations of stupidity and "how DARE you not feel ashamed!!".

I'm an old guy. I've dealt with a lot of kids and their family issues. I've seen his kind over and over. I'm 99% convinced he uses the same emotional weaponry and bludgeoning approach on his kids...

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

yep...the guy is a loose

yep...the guy is a loose cannon.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

WHY

would you listen to someone who makes you sick for 30 minutes?
Just wondering.

Cyril's picture

Alex doesn't make me physically ill.

Alex doesn't make me physically ill.

This does:

http://www.dailypaul.com/282081/boston-massacre-only-thing-t...

For I feel like I'm still helpless about it.

While I can just choose to not tune in Alex's channel any time I'm not in the mood for it. Which does happen regularly, as with anybody else, I suppose.

YMMV. False flag or not, I couldn't care less.

The ObaMARX follow up will be worrisome ANYWAY.

Peace.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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ConstitutionHugger's picture

Is Alex Jones is a psychopath? You decide...

I've heard that psychopaths are far more common than we think, making make up 10% of the population. I'm not talking about the murderers (although they may be capable in the right circumstances), I'm just talking about people who act in their own self-interest and have no compassion for other people. Most of us have dated someone like this.

There are claims that our politicians and financial "leaders" are psychopaths, because they are attracted to power. Alex Jones is a good guy for our cause for the most part, but I believe he is a psychopath. That's why we can't trust him completely. Psychopaths love to talk about how great they are. He's pretty much made a career of it.

From wikipedia:
Psychopathy is a personallity disorder that represents a person characterized by reduced fear, a lack of empathy, coldheartedness, egocentricity, superficial charm, manipulativeness, irresponsibility, impulsivity, criminality, antisocial behavior, a lack of remorse, and a parasitic lifestyle.

I'm glad I'm not the only

I'm glad I'm not the only one. The idea that anyone out there takes this man seriously is frightening. He recently made the ridiculous claim that "Pepsi contains aborted babies." He's made so many laughable statements over the years that I'm astonished and dumbfounded that there are still people taking him seriously. He's a dangerously disturbed individual who should seek help before he was a serious breakdown.

Isn't that true? that Pepsi

Isn't that true? that Pepsi is/was using sweetener that comes from aborted fetus tissue?