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4 Hours Left to Stop CISPA

Call Now: Tell Congress to Reject CISPA

The House is about to vote on the "cybersecurity" bill known as CISPA, the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act. Despite recent amendments, CISPA still features dangerously vague language that could put your personal information in the hands of military organizations like the National Security Agency.

While CISPA passed through the House last year, it failed to be enacted after a veto threat. This year's bill fails to solve the fundamental privacy and civil liberties problems with the misguided law. Please speak out! We’re asking individuals to call Representatives and follow up with a tweet.

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Let's go Guys!

We have to get on top of this! I know a lot is going on right now in all our lives but this issue is paramount. They have intentionally diverted our attention so that they can pass this with little to no objection because of our preoccupation. When we look back and say remember when 20 years ago... No one will remember the political climate at this time they will only know the final vote. We must stop CISPA! It violates among many things FREE SPEECH, thank you.

TheSin

Emailed my rep.

Emailed my rep.

Me, too..

Greg Walden (neocon) Oregon 2nd District, we'll see what he ends up doing on this.

round and round we go

CISPA back again...

I have a question for those out there who still believe that code ever applied to We the People; how does the merry go round of politics feel? Are you getting sick yet?

Why would a sane man or woman choose to constantly battle in politics over the same issues time and time again to either stop or get a bill passed when statutory code only applies as regulation to the capacity of the Government employees or entities contracted to exchange regulated operation for limited liabiility and only if the regulatory is in line with Common Law and the Constitution?

I keep saying it over and over here on DP for a reason. Code has no application to men and women (We the People). Common Law is applicable to the People while the Constitution and all legislative code derivations are regulations for capacities that agree to be regulated for consideration of limited liability aka US Citizens/citizens of the United States/Legal Persons. Applying code to the People is like Wal-Mart applying it's employee handbook and SOP's to its shareholders; it is a failure in logical operation of law.

We can continue the insanity of constantly chasing our tails in battling code as legal persons in a corrupt political system OR we can be real men and women about it, accept full liability for our actions and return to the being People with rights and just let them know we are completely aware that code has no application to the People and any action that harms us in anyway will be a Common Law Breach of Peace and if they claim to be operating under the Constitutional Contract then is also a breach of duty. Under Common Law we can criminally accuse all of the bureaucrats of every criminal act they are performing against us and take it to the Jury for proper justice. With swift Justice and remedy from Juries we can then wipe our hands clean of them and watch the resulting self behavioral modification tsunami consume the system as the criminal bureaucrats come to face with the reality that they ARE liable for their own actions and the harm they inflict upon another.

Do you want to continue the vortexual merry go round to hell and watch your whole life evaporate into a criminals game of fraud called politics? Or, do you want to bring Justice to criminals that harm you? The choice is yours and yours alone; PERSON or People? The Law is no respecter of persons!

The most powerful Law of Nature is Time. It is finite and we all will run out of it. Use this Law to your advantage, for it offers you infinite possibilities...

ok, so why haven't you taken them to task

and brought them in front of a jury? or have you and I missed that real life example?

I have been pursuing this

They predictably block my access to the Jury. They send me through the circular slave maze of Departments. I have been utilizing this to my advantage by conducting a wider scale investigation to document crimes being committed by individual men and women. I am at the stage of collecting the evidence and preparing the cases. I am building a library of dossiers on individuals who are systematically committing the crimes and even formulating questions of exact quotes from crimes defined in code, Common Law and Maxims of Law to get them to admit to their criminal intent on the record.

So, I am doing this. I am just early in my approach but rest assured I have already stood in open court and informed the "court personnel" of their criminal activity and my intent to bring them to justice. I have also informed them every step of the way exactly what I am doing. I have also had discussions with some of them that if a Jury cannot be accessed for Justice then there is no reason to pay taxes anymore. They have told me I can stop paying taxes if I want. I have only found ONE bureaucrat, out of dozens, I talked to while they were working that answered Yes to this question:

Does the Constitution still apply to your job?

Do you see? I know what I am doing and I am FULLY AWARE of what the result will be when the numbers we had around Ron Paul's campaign are ACTUALLY supporting and defending the entire Constitution and using the correct function of the Constitution for proper remedy; the Judicial Branch.

We talk about restoring the Constitution then why don't we use it in its proper form? Politics is not the solution to remedy crime. Isn't this obvious? Probably not to persons but always to the People...

The most powerful Law of Nature is Time. It is finite and we all will run out of it. Use this Law to your advantage, for it offers you infinite possibilities...

good, i think

I guess I need more specific examples though. As per Cispa, I suppose if you can get everyone to ignore their laws then the laws won't have any meaning. But the companies won't and thus you have to avoid the companies. People take them to court based on the Constitution all the time. Which is using the constitution to fight them but it takes time and money. But I think what you are saying is that the laws don't apply and only the constitution applies. So when they come arrest me for whatever I just say the law doesn't apply to me?

You seem confused about what I am saying

If you knew how the law actually works this would not be confusing and you would know that the only thing I am saying is that the laws do apply and they apply according to their proper application and scope. Most have unknowingly consented to enforcement of certain laws and corresponding punishment that do not apply to them and never did. It took me awhile to figure this out too, so the confusion is understandable. So here is an example:

Two different factual forms of communication describing the exact same event where either can be true with the corresponding applicable laws:

Statutory code application:
A police officer pulled me over and gave me a citation for excessive speed.

Common Law application:
An armed man interfered with my path of travel and proceeded to use threats, fear, and intimidation to force me into contract.

Statutory application in the reference here means that YOU, the identified person, have been charged with a criminal infraction and will be subject to fines.

Common law application represents an accusation of Common Law criminal breach of peace in the form of criminal extortion committed against you by the accused.

See how the facts that are entered onto the record determine the application. Of course they also use STATE issued ID as prima facie evidence that you are the legal person/Citizen/citizen who has exchanged rights for privileges with limited liabilities and are subject to statutory regulation. Not only is it extortion they committed at first encounter but as their crime fest continues into the "courts" one who is aware of the law can simply ask them strategic questions utilizing exact quotes from codes, Common Law and Maxims of Law to explicitly identify obstruction of Justice, Fraud, Misprision, Perjury, Grande Theft, Racketeering, and many more crimes. All of these strategic questions when asked properly will be admitted by them; THIS IS EASY! Hell, one obvious explicit example of, at minimum, breach of duty is that every bureaucrat is utilizing unlawful tender that is private corporation's debt note. They voluntarily signed a contract but are breach of duty to that contract explicitly Article 1 Section 10.

When we know the law we can access its protections and it becomes easy to get them to admit to their criminal activity because they most them really are stupid criminals. They know almost nothing about Law. Some of them know everything about procedure but almost nothing about real law and how it actually applies. This is because they are intellectually lazy and ultimately just stupid corrupt men and women who have mens rea intent to control other people. This fact is obvious when one's thirst for truth in history and law has been quenched.

As far as this application to commercial companies with CISPA this is part of the lesson here. If we choose to contract with a STATE to create the limited liability entities then the regulatory code will apply to the capacity to maintain limited liability. However, proper interpretation of law will still result in the fact that any action of the powers of justice (Just Powers) will still require consent of the governed. Real law dictates that law enforcement will only respond as an agent on behave of an identified accuser accepting liability for their accusation to enable the dispute to be heard before the Jury. The nature of this agency and its very purpose in law is for the court and government to remain COMPLETELY impartial and to ensure that a valid cause of action is present.

Now Government is broken because We the People do not know the law and therefore cannot uphold the law. So now People think they are persons and they (incorrectly) think that the Constitution and code applies to everybody when it does not and cannot lawfully be forced upon anyone.

As for your comments about companies taking it to court over Constitutional issues. Yes this happens all the time. But it is clear from examining the case law that the battles are not performed in the most applicable way which leads to more confusion. The persons have no rights so arguing for rights as a person may fall within the scope of a privilege and thus appear that "rights" have been upheld but careful examination of the entities involved and applicable facts presented always end up demonstrating that the applicable code was due to the facts of the case presented and the legal status of the entities. One thing you never see in these cases is a full liability man or woman (one or more We the People) listed as an accuser against another full liability man or woman. It is always some Legal person vs another. In fact, now in recent cases the Supreme Court has even demonstrated that the court is taking another usurpation by suggesting that only the Legal person has access to the protection of our laws. If the Judges were reading what I am saying here they would know exactly what I am talking about but they also know that most Americans do not know this and know this ignorance is enabling them to usurp all powers from the People because quite frankly the People hardly exist anymore. The 14th amendment person was unlawfully thrust into the Constitution and offered to the People. Over time the people didn't even question because they never knew what it meant between People and Person so they just followed the crowd and unknowingly chose the person which is the entity created by the Government. Accordingly to Law rights are endowed by their creator. The Man or woman was created by God and the Person was created by the STATE and its person given to the bank as collateral for outstanding and future debt. The government is debtor the bank is the creditor and persons are the collateral. Most people have no idea what I am talking but I know that there are some attorneys and judges out there that know this. I have spoken with many who know and many who don't. It seems confusing at first but then everything makes perfect sense. Once you know this you can then see how they are usurping all power reserved for the people. It is obvious once you study enough law.

Usurpations have happened and are expanding all because We the People have lost touch with the inherent hierarchy of the application of law:

Divine Law
Natural Law
Common Law
Organic Law
Constitutional Law
Statutory Code Law
Federal/State Regulations

If we the People don't understand this then we are doomed to continue the never ending merry go round in their criminal fraud of politics until we completely destroy ourselves (believe it or not even this fact the law). This is exactly where the criminal usurpers want us. Ignorant, afraid and consenting to their authority and control.

If we understand real law and its proper scope and application at every level and WHY it works the way it does then we can begin to establish our own independent processes built around modern day technological transparency and statistical optimization that will make all this outright crime of current politics be the biggest waste of time and drain of resources ever.

I realize that this may not resolve your confusion but it is going to take much more time and energy then reading this comment to unravel the fraud and deception that is being committed against us. Their is systemic crime at every level and the politics will fade in its importance once people fully realize this fact.

Ultimately though law is VERY simple. At its essence if anyone trespasses against you in any way then they give you valid cause for seeking and obtaining remedy for their trespass against you no matter who that may be. Law also requires one to do what they say they are going to do.

Americans playing in politics seem to be blowing in the winds of the current gossip of the day which becomes obvious when reading through the millions of codes. These political battles are the result of a society that does not understand the law and where each thinks they have the answer to fix things and put the solution into code. In short, We have become a nation of men not a nation of law.

If we don't know the law and elect politicians then you are probably just electing the tyrants of tomorrow no matter how good the rhetoric seems. True representation is just that re-presenting. If you elect politicians then you get their policy. If you elect representative then they only re-present they are not deciders. The representatives are suppose to receive instructions from the delegate process of the People voice not vote how they please. We seem to have lost this understanding about a republican form of government too.

I hope you find your way to the truth. I hope everyone out there finds their way because there are many possible organizational structures that could be implemented that would bring about efficiency and optimization of modern infrastructure and security that has never been seen. It is completely lawful to start our own systems of security, arbitration, money, infrastructure and more. There is absolutely no requirement in law for us to be a part of this corrupt criminal system. Under Common Law we have every right to form new contractual entities with its own organic laws and applicable regulations and processes. In fact we can even have more than one if we want. The choice is ours and anyone who intentionally trespasses against us for exercising that choice is a criminal and we can bring them to Justice for remedy. Real law or politics? Which one do we want?

The most powerful Law of Nature is Time. It is finite and we all will run out of it. Use this Law to your advantage, for it offers you infinite possibilities...

yes politics is pointless

Politicians just make laws and in the end it will implode under its own weight. I am more interested in getting rid of them.

So lets see, if someone comes to ticket me or arrest me they can only do so if I consent. And in the process of doing so they are harassing me so they are breaking laws so to speak (against me). So I charge them under common law. They can't charge me under their laws that I don't agree to. Do I have that right to charge them? I am still not sure how this will work in practice. I refuse to sign ticket...maybe they haul me off to jail which mean more stuff against me to use later. But since this is a criminal element I just might be locked away and forgotten about. But maybe the courts understand this concept and all works out best for me and bad for the harassers of me. But it would have to be a different court I suppose, one of common law. Do I just have to demand it?

Yes Reps are supposed to represent but that gets tricky when representing so many with changing views. We could do direct representation but there is still the problem of how to determine the wording and details of what goes forward. Maybe it is direct representation with wiki of sorts. In theory we should not need much representation because we shouldn't have to be doing so much law-making anyway. So, maybe that would work better. Senators represent more the State interests than the people though (in theory). Although the people in the states vote them in now so maybe one and the same in reality.

Things are not what they seem

and there are better ways to handle the situation without having to go to jail. Although the "cops" are getting so tyrannical that jail is becoming and more likely. When they commit extortion against me I use the opportunity to collect all the evidence and their testimony on a recording of the event. Strategic questioning is key here and the combination of words enables the removal of any other possible explanation of their intent and will cause them to back track later on once they figure what is happening to them. If they try to tell me I can't record the encounter then I just explain to them that they are under criminal investigation and I am gathering evidence of their criminal activity. This puts them in a major pickle. They have the right to remain silent and anything they say can be used against them in court of law. They also have the right to not self-incriminate themselves but they intent is to commit crime against us and they are too stupid and ignorant of law to understand any other this. In essence I reverse the roles and do unto them as they do unto others except for violence. I just use all of their investigative tactics against them. This is very confusing for them because they realize that you know their training and they begin to wonder if I am law enforcement. Let them think this. I am enforcing the law but I am not a "law enforcement officer"

What I do is utilize every second until the point of them arresting to question and enter in facts of my understanding. If the "cop" doesn't just leave, which sometimes they do, and they get to the point where kidnapping seems inevitable then I void their contract by writing under duress on their documents. This will enter the facts into the case and open the path for the harm against me to fully exposed in the court and to open all questions needed for clarity in the court.

As far as the "Charge" against them; the word charge does not necessarily mean what you may think. The charge is against the person and puts all determination of prosecution into the hands of the DA/State Attorney who are the biggest criminals of all and will never prosecute because their job is to protect the on-going criminal activity and authoritarian control.

A charge enables their power in administrative courts. A criminal accusation puts me in the accusers seat and makes me liable for accusation and enables access to a Court of Law. Criminal accusations against another are taken to a court of law to be heard by a Jury. This accusation is supposed to be filed with the magistrate along with all elements that make up a valid cause of action but even this process of law that is nearly a thousand years old is going away in most cities. Now it seems that since the magistrate cannot be accessed or that the magistrate will breach their duty for the very purpose of protecting the criminal racket they are a part of all of this evidence needs to go to the Grande Jury for criminal indictment.

The Grand Jury has much more power because they can conduct an investigation prior to an indictment to discover facts and they can issue wiretaps warrants, search warrants, subpoenas for testimony and more. This is what they don't want us to know because once we realize this in mass they are totally screwed. Where I am at they put the magistrates only in the Jails and inaccessible to anyone who is not being booked (another usurpation), it seems I will have to take it to the Grande Jury which I have attempted to do and this is where their obstruction of justice felonies began inside the "courts". This is why I am being patient and thorough in my criminal investigations against them. I want to collect as much evidence as possible so that when the Jury is finally accessed the evidence will be thorough and completely mind bomb the Jury into seeing the systemic crime going on. This is what I am doing with my knowledge of I have obtained but others are doing other things. Of course all of this happening outside of my daily work so it is going very slowly at this point. I am working to gain enough resources to be able to do this full time. IMHO if the Ron Paul supporters and liberty movement in general were aware of this and understood the power of this then the shear numbers focused on this would completely overwhelm them and MUCH more intelligence could be collected and consolidated. This would be overwhelming for them and would have much more affect on the Jury. Imagine a thousand people showing up at Grande Jury with hard evidence of their crimes seeking justice. This never happens right now and would be a major game changer that the criminals would not know how to do deal with. They commit a false flag or something but this would only be worse for them. We need to get in our minds and actions that no one can escape the long arm of the law. And no none of what I am talking about has to laws we don't like not applying to us. That's not what I am saying here. Laws have applications to their creations. Rights are endowed by the creator. You have to know what the "creation" is and who the "creator" is. Then we can understand what laws apply to what entities. Your STATE issues ID is not God's creation it is the STATE's creation and that is the identity the courts are talking to. If you realize the difference then applicable laws change accordingly but if We the People don't explicitly assert the facts then they will presume based on the evidence given.

As far as your comments representation gets tricky when dealing with so many but once realizing all other processes of delegation we can then identify what I believe may be the biggest failure in Constitution. The delegate process for presentation to a representative is not defined and is does not have a defined quorum. Imagine if representative had a quorum requirement for re-presenting say 75% of their constituents were required to have quorum. If this were the case then NO BILLS would EVER get passed that we not seriously needed by everyone. If the representative did not obtain a presentment from the People then they would have to simply abstain which would happen for every bill we have seen in modern history because most people do not participate in politics and this would become a protection and not a hindrance. Right now many people claim that others just need to 'wake up' so that we can get the right person in to represent us. No we don't need that. We need to understand the natural order of things and realize that if 75% or more of the people are demanding legislation then it doesn't need to be there.

I have a vision for how to implement a delegate process that enables the process to be broken down into enough discrete chunks where it is manageable for everyone and has a quorum structure to it but this is on the back burner because nearly everyone I see is completely confused about what to do and their only actions are to stay on the merry go round. It seems that they are going to have lose everything before they stop operating on baseless opinions and actually learn the law and the history of law that has been intentionally hidden from us through acts of fraud by a criminal conspiracy.

The most powerful Law of Nature is Time. It is finite and we all will run out of it. Use this Law to your advantage, for it offers you infinite possibilities...

thanks

it was helpful start. There does not seem to be a way to get justice to the criminals within the system. What you are presenting gets at that in a way.

As per a quorum... my opinion is we need a at least a certain percent weighing in. This is the quorum (75% like you mentioned might be right)and then of those weighing in/demanding we can't rely on a simple majority. The bar needs to be higher than that. 2/3 perhaps. It would be a significant improvement but maybe I am not being harsh enough since that is only around 50% of all adults.

People seem more concerned about who they are electing versus what is being done.

Hmmm

I still don't understand why these "cybersecurity" bills are even created in Congress. It's not like the NSA, CIA, and FBI haven't already been illegally spying on and obtaining information from American citizens. Pass or not pass the civil liberties violations will persist. Any "rule" government imposes upon itself is really just another way of saying, "just kidding rules don't apply to us."

Maybe the private sector spying tech

is ahead of the feds' capabilities?

This gives the feds a free rein to vacuum up whatever
the private companies have collected, doesn't it?

Find your RINO here and then copy this to their Facebook...

List Of Representatives Who Voted For CISPA

http://govtslaves.info/list-of-representatives-who-voted-for...

Ask your RINO these three questions about CISPA...

"Why do you support Hollywood if you claim to be a Republican?"

"Why do you support Hollywood's CISPA legislation when Hollywood gives so much money to Democrats?"

"Are you going to vote with the Democrat's AGAIN Congressman?"

https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/action/public/?action_KE...

Republicans have less the 49 hours left to Stop CISPA. In the last CISPA bill this Republican (in name only) voted with Democrats in support of their big campaign donors the Hollywood Fat Cats.

Hollywood wants WARRANTLESS SEARCHES so that the government can arrest your 11-13 year old kids who might have shared music files.

This RINO has aligned himself against you and your children and is supporting this legislation supported only by the biggest of Hollywood donors, those that put Obama and the Democratic Party in power.

The lastest Tor networks makes Congress irrelevant.

Congress is a bunch morons that believe their own lies.

They jsut want to rob the rest of us to so they can live high on the hogg.

Free includes debt-free!

The house represents a minority. They have no authority.

They are also over $16 Trillion in debt.

Not only are the illegitimate, they are broke.

Losers!

Free includes debt-free!

Thanks for the link Firewall

Boston marathon bombings also could act as a trigger/excuse to launch attack on Iran.

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Ask your RINO this... "Why do you support Hollywood?"

Ask your RINO this...

"Why do you support Hollywood? Why do you support Hollywood's CISPA legislation when Hollywood gives so much money to Democrats? Are you a Democrat Congressman? "

I asked one of Rep. Todd Young's staffers this at a meeting of constitutional conservatives the other day. The idiot had no response and looked frightened by my suggestion.

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