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I'm Now The Enemy

Do you consider yourself the enemy? I see no way around it. In a state of aggression, I have no choice but to consider myself an enemy of that state because I'm NOT an aggressive or violent person. It's such a perverse state of reality when a government that was created to defend our liberties is the primary destroyer of it. Continual terrorist attacks and threats are the unavoidable realities of a society that uses force against peaceful individuals, intervenes into the economy, private lives and kills people overseas.

Yet as time goes on, the unthinking, brain-dead population fails to make the proper connection to the truth. The truth that the more government does, the more enemies it creates and the more enemies it creates the more government does, and the more government does, the more enemies it creates and the more... Well, you get the idea.

Increasingly, this is becoming obvious in my debates with fellow Americans. They're my enemy and I am theirs. They seem incapable of understanding that you can do good through peace and nonviolence. I've banged my head against an imaginary wall of human degradation. It's as though the general people and their minds are now possessed by some tyrannical spirit, completely incapable of rational thought or discernment of truth. It's time I just accept the fact that I no longer support my country, and simply consider myself what I am - It's enemy.

Are you the enemy?

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I am so thoroughly at odds

with the health of the state. I'm not a danger to it because not enough people listen to what I say. Only if people were listening and being convinced to withdraw their support for the state would it be true that I was a danger to the state.

Defend Liberty!

Thanks for all the responses

It actually felt like a weight off my shoulders when I just said what needed to be said.

"I no longer support my country".

"I am the enemy of this country".

"This country is now my enemy".

The funny thing is I went through the same thing with "religion". Over time I sort of became an enemy of my faith, because I increasingly felt like most Christian faiths were actually anti-liberty, but because of the lie of "authority" we're told we can't question it. Sound familiar? When I became the "enemy of" ORGANIZED religion, it was like removing a 100lb albatross from around my neck. Now I'm working to remove the 500lb albatross that is worship of country. I can no longer delude myself and won't. This country is my enemy and I am it's enemy because I stand FOR and DEMAND liberty. This country seeks to routinely violate our liberties as it motivates more and more attacks against it. It's a game and I won't take part in it anymore.

In the words of Michael Scott; "I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!"

You "support your country" by

You "support your country" by being a thoughtful, free man willing to engage in the issues of the day.

Your whole vibe here feels a bit like you're in that shrugging-off-major-baggage stage. That's personal. Get on with it so you don't confuse it with God and Country.

makes me curious what denomination?

usually organized religions that are perverting Christianity don't like you to question it.

But at many churches it is a search for truth, questioning traditions and studying and reason.

One of my favorite verses.. "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman who needs not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

Ugh, I don't remember. I

Ugh, I don't remember. I don't want this to become a religious debate, I've done that before and it goes nowhere. The only thing I reject to is a God that does not grant us individuals liberty and forces us to worship it. That's not benevolence, that's tyrannical.

I feel the same way, man.

In fact, that's why the introduction bumper to my podcast lets people know what they're getting into; when you plant these earbuds in your skull, you must be ready to hear information that will, undoubtedly, make you an Enemy of the State.

It can be an isolating feeling, no doubt. I've been lucky enough to "wake up" some of my close friends and family, and although it was like pulling teeth at times, it offers some mental solace: At least not EVERYONE I know views me as an intellectual terrorist.

I can't help but make the all-too-cited analogy between our reality and The Matrix. In the movie, the Agents were dangerous, but even more dangerous was alerting your presence to the masses going about their existence in ignorance. And the worst part, if you tried to "wake" anyone stuck in The Matrix before they were ready, they'd literally die from the shock.

I want to make a post about this sometime on here, but I don't exactly know how to go about doing it. I truly believe the liberty movement, from minarchists to anarchists, need to unite. Not ideologically, but physically. It sounds nuts, I know, but a Galt's Gulch-esque scenario is the safest way for us to exist. Living with like-minded people, using sound money and contract law to guide our existence. In fact, I'm in the process of building a log cabin on wheels (seriously, if this sounds too crazy, hit me or something) and trying to buy a large piece of property to start homesteading on. It'd be amazing if we could do that on a large scale; like the hippie communes of the 60s and 70s only without the idiocy.

"The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else."
-Frederic Bastiat

Thank OP.

You took the thoughts right out of my mind. I feel like this more and more all the time. Anyone who thinks it through will be forced to come up with the same conclusion.

The USGovt has been at war with the American people for at least a couple of decades now. Not one piece of legislation ever helps the 97% ish. And coming to this recognition will only label you an enemy in the eyes of the State, all of its employees, and a majority of the American people.

It actually feels better to admit it than to continue with the cognitive dissonance.

I am the enemy.

ecorob's picture

And just who am "I"?

Lets take for example that "I" am a white, European-based American. Lets also say, for the sake of your argument, that "I" am the enemy.

"I" happen to compose, according to 2011 statistics, 78% of the American population. Since "I" believe, (astonishingly, as many in the lame street media might profess), that black, African-based Americans, 13% of the population, are my equal brothers-in-Liberty, then 91% of Americans, white and black, are, by virtue of who they are, the "enemy" of our "government".

91% of 314 million Americans are the expressed "enemy" of the American "government" (according to the "government") and for the sake of this argument.
Have 280 million Americans been targeted as the "enemy"? "I" also believe that Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, and ALL other nationalities and creeds are my brothers-in-Liberty. Are we ALL the "enemy"? It appears, when looking at the actions of our "government", that we are.

Who is this 1% in hollywood and congress that portrays "me" as such? Who puts the fat white man or the gangster black man on tv, front and center, and portrays this as the norm? Who squanders our American treasure on war and profit? Who benefits from this? "You" and "I"? No.

Follow the money. Where does the money go? It goes to beauracracy. It goes to multi-national corporations (people, too, according to romnie). It goes to Nations that do not need it. It goes into the hands of our "owners". "I" know where the money goes. "I" know who my enemy is. "I" believe "you" do, too.

The average senator gains TEN TIMES their personal wealth AFTER they get into office. Exposing this, I suppose, would make "you" an enemy of the state.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Murray Rothbard was proud to be an enemy of the state!

And so am I!

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com

"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Where ever you go, there you are

Enemies are what one needs to make war.

Enemies are ignorance, hatred, lies, etc, and I fight them within myself more than fight others for what I see as their own, as this is as much a spiritual fight for truth and justice, as a political one. If I can not win my own battles against ignornace, hatred, fear.. than who am I to judge others for theirs?

ecorob's picture

Again, granger, you don't have a clue.

Your reply takes this thread completely out of context and into a completely different area of discussion. Are you doing this on purpose or are you that shallow?

I have to believe that you ARE that shallow because I only use the term "disinfo agent" in extreme circumstances. But, you try my patience.

Stick with the topic, please. Quit wasting our time.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.


don't make a debate, and telling me where to get iff in the name of "we" only makes you a cyber bully, so cool it chum.

Have a great posting day!

ecorob's picture

I'm not insulting you.

Don't take it personal, "chum".

I am just stating an obvious fact.

I am sure you would like nothing better than to distract from this thread with a debate that has nothing to offer but wasted time. Far be it that you would offer furthering discourse to promote this discussion. Try that. Don't "speak" to me. "Speak" to the thread.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.


When you see enemies it's the ones within you you ignor, and those are the ones that will undo you.

That is my point to the thread.

I LOVE my life and the only enemies I have are not people, but the same enemies all people have at their own level, fear, ignorance, among others. I'm saying fight the enemy within.

If you think you don't have any, chances are you're plaqued with them.

Mark Dice was just on Fox &

Mark Dice was just on Fox & Friends


I am not the enermy

I am just your average uneducated bloodthirsty warsupporting "patriot" neighbor./jk

Yes, completely. We are each

Yes, completely. We are each our own best enemy. (I think that's a bastardization of a Bruce Lee quote.)

So another YES! You are an enemy.

A Big NO to making, like, the entire population of American your enemy. That kind of thinking is called, well...allowing yourself to be used. Just keep repeating to yourself: I AM MY OWN WORST ENEMY. If the enemy is beyond your reach you're helpless and hopeless. If the enemy is right beside you -- even you -- you're, like, golden. You got this; it's right in your hands.

You don't have to think things like, they're "incapable" and they're "possessed," unable to fathom "rational thought" or "discernment of truth."

Once you know you are your own worst enemy, you can reclaim the power. It's YOU who is incapable of communicating and enticing others to rational discernment. You can change the only thing you CAN change. YOU.

Yes. You are the enemy. Yes, I am the enemy. Let's get busy fighting ourselves instead of delaying the process by blaming.

ecorob's picture

You missed the point, too.

I am not surprised, considering your track "record" here.

You did get one thing right. I AM your enemy. YOU are NOT on the side of a free and independent America. I will expose you for what you are; a puppet.

You twisted the truth when you said, "A Big NO to making, like, the entire population of American your enemy."

Who said that? YOU! No one else said that.

We, Americans, stand TOGETHER, united against tyranny. The enemy is defined and it ISN'T who you misrepresented it to be. As if, we, ALL Americans are the enemy of one another? Rubbish.

That IS your plan, isn't it? To divide and conquer?

Please. Just go over in the corner and sit down.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Um...the OP said he'd made

Um...the OP said he'd made the the entire populous his enemy.

"Increasingly, this is becoming obvious in my debates with fellow Americans. They're my enemy and I am theirs."

The OP contextualized this statement with stuff about how folks won't listen to him when he tries to reason with them and so forth. My post was taking this sort of mindset to task. If you or I or the OP fail to reason or communicate with folks, we'd be wise to look to ourselves for the remedy.

Reminds me of a meeting of our local Republicans right after the election. A stalwart of the group stood up and began speaking with obvious anger about how the liberty wing had ruined our state elections for the Republicans. She cited chapter and verse of how everyone but her sort had failed. I was blinking and my mouth was hanging open. Because I, as one of the leaders of the liberty wing in my area, was thinking quite differently. I was thinking about how and where I'd failed. About what I should have done differently. What I would do differently next time around. It did not occur to me that the solution was to blame other people, over which I have no control.

The OP reminds me very much of this woman spouting about how everyone done her wrong. Fine. Be that person. But make that decision knowing that the people who will actually do something productive are the people who will focus on what they did wrong, on what they need to change, on how they are their own worst enemy.

We have let the federal

We have let the federal public schools take over do this to our history and our children. We should have taught how precious and fragile liberty was and how closely guarded we should be about the growth of government. The revolution must start with education. I only hope we are not fighting a real revolution at the same time for the future of this land.

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.

Cyril's picture

Yes, I consider myself as the enemy of the state, too, Robert.

Yes, I consider myself as the enemy of the state, too, Robert.

And I'll stay non-violent.

I'll let the state attack and use physical coercion and force, I'll reply by force to force only in self-defense.

But I will KEEP ATTACKING, RELENTLESSLY with WORDS and IDEAS to denounce the plunder by the state, and also to DEFEND our values for liberty, non-aggression principle, self-reliance for prosperity.

And guess what.

That is how we will make our point that it's the state and its laws gone perverted, not the people.

That it's the state gone wrong. That it's the state gone indefensible.

Meanwhile, let's starve the state. Let's leave its schemes as best as we can. Let's have it freak out on finding who it is to plunder next to sustain itself.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius