Here's Why I Vomit Group Think & Collectivism: Not Because Of A New Hype To Do So, But Because It's The Old Fraud We Must DefeatSubmitted by Cyril on Fri, 04/19/2013 - 03:01
Just a repost of comment on a topic I have especially at heart, with minor edits ( http://www.dailypaul.com/281834#comment-3044750 )
I'm not going to elaborate long, just a few points.
First, I'm not interested in "uniting" people in anything at all, but only, exclusively, the importance of rediscovering individual liberties.
Hence, I'm not interested either in pushing this or that system of beliefs. People ought to be absolutely free to believe in really ANYTHING they want as long as they're not forcing it onto others.
Naturally, it can follow, I think, spontaneous order - as Ron Paul sums it up often: "liberty brings people together".
You don't need an almighty state to make people communicate, trade, learn, teach, etc, with each other.
The Golden Rule will also apply because that's something we all have in our hearts naturally, I think, unless we got so perverted that we can challenge or nitpick around even THAT ONE.
The Golden Rule is something we teach our own kids at age of 4 or so, even if we don't call it that way until years later. It is very natural.
I'll bounce onto your last point only, where there is a very serious, insidious confusion, I think, for many people:
"if [our] "Law" is not based on something tangible.... how is that any different from fiat money?"
It's a really perverted inversion of beliefs (in a non religious sense) that has been shoved down our throats, there - greatly hazardous:
for it is just not true and very deceptive in making people think it is (true), without closer, more serious intellectual inspection.
And I'm going to use rationale, logical, scientific reasoning, IMO, difficult to challenge, and quite shockingly evident once you wake up to it. Here it is:
"Law" - including the natural one - CAN actually exist and be tangible.
You just WRITE IT ON PAPER in a simple, unambiguous (as best as you can) language - meaning: to be read and taken LITERALLY - and THEN, you ask people TO COMMIT to keep this literal interpretation and apply it to their lives and interaction.
What is really difficult to understand or impractical to do, there?
In truth : nothing, really.
But, yes, I grant you that:
this is precisely where IT ALL STARTS with the Power That Be and their plunder:
THEY WILL FIRST start, and DO THEIR VERY BEST to BETRAY the language.
To make us believe that language "cannot" be taken literally in all times. That we "have to" adapt its interpretation to push this or that social "agenda" for the greater good of the majority, or of groups, etc.
That's the collectivist intellectual fraud, because, in fact:
groups DO NOT exist.
Here's a group : A FOREST. It's a group of trees.
Can you touch a forest? No, you can't : it's a concept, an idea, an abstract intangible thing, just like "liberty", or "justice", or "plunder", or "crime", etc.
Can you touch a tree? Yes, YOU CAN : it's an individual, a TANGIBLE, LIVING, thing.
The collectivists want to SACRIFICE the individual's rights - the TANGIBLE, LIVING individual - for the "best interest" of the "group".
That's FRAUD against life, humanity, and justice, and liberty - because they oppose an individual living thing's rights to AN ARBITRARY concept that THEY have deemed more important. That THEY will justify about using this or that "MANAGEMENT" and "FORCE" ... of law, of course, at gun point.
It does not matter whether they give fancy names to the groups and "rights" they deem so important : it remains arbitrary and calls for always more moral hazard feeding on itself.
Because ALL MEN can be corrupted once in power. And to make laws perverted on language being ABUSED - to serve exclusively THEIR agenda, as I said.
And from that point on... here we are today.
See also the fallacy of the Superman Idea:
And, Liberty vs. Coercion :
Finally, G. Edward Griffin on "Collectivism and Ignoring the Fed" :
The latter put in words what I had intuited for long but couldn't express as great as he did.