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CONFIRMED: Identity of the Men In Black and Khaki Uniforms at the Boston Marathon Bombings

Update 3: This article confirms that the 1st, 13th, and 24th CSTs are in fact the men in black and khaki: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/freedom-...

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Update 2: Pictures of current members of the Massachusetts National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team

http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/1389663/Photo-Release-Un...

http://states.ng.mil/sites/MA/News/PublishingImages/2012/04/...

Some of these men look to be the same guys spotted in the Boston Marathon photos.

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Update: According to this article from the Air National Guard site: http://www.ang.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123344967

"The Massachusetts team was on duty during the running of the Boston marathon, augmented by similar civil support teams from the New York and Rhode Island National Guards."

So it would appear that the CST team on duty during the explosion was the Massachusetts Army National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team, augmented by New York's 24th CST and Rhode Island's 13th CST.

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They are the New York Army National Guard's 24th Civil Support Team. Massachusetts Army National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team, augmented by New York's 24th CST and Rhode Island's 13th CST.

"A Weapons of Mass Destruction Civil Support Team (WMD-CST or CST) advises civilian responders in the event of a suspected weapon of mass destruction attack. CSTs are federally funded National Guard units established under Presidential Decision Directive 39. There are 57 fulltime teams: one in every U.S. state, Washington, D.C., Puerto Rico, Guam and the US Virgin Islands, and an additional team each in California, Florida and New York."

Here are more photos of them: http://imgur.com/a/YrTOK

Here is a photo of some of them wearing vests identifying them as CST: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/apr/15/boston-m...

The vehicles they are using are identical to those used by other Army National Guard CSTs as well, as can be seen here: http://www.oregon.gov/OMD/pressrelease/2010/feb/2-22/100222-...

http://www.oregon.gov/omd/pages/pressrelease/2010/02-22-10pr...

http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391311/6th-civil-support-team-...

Here is picture of one of the vehicles as seen in this .PDF about CST operations (http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/DR_pubs/dr_a/pdf/fm3_11x22...): http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/advon-team.jpg

As for their use of non-standard uniforms instead of the Army Combat Uniform, here are earlier pictures from 2011 and 2012 of CST members wearing khaki and black: http://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=22521 , http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123259663 , http://dmva.alaska.gov/content/galleria/Alaska%20National%20... , http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391361/6th-civil-support-team-... , http://www.army.mil/media/235471 , http://www.nationalguard.mil/news/archives/2010/09/090210-CS... , and http://www.army.mil/article/78045/

Here at the marathon: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/apr/15/boston-m...

Here on duty in Washington D.C.: http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=123237536

Here in black and Khaki and standing next to their vehicles: http://hermes.lssu.edu/~jshibley/Release%20Photos/LSSUSecCon...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenationalguard/3311685893/

Here with a backpack that looks identical to those of the uniformed men in Boston: http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391303/6th-civil-support-team-...

As to why one of them were seen wearing Craft apparel, Craft International provides training programs to police and military, and it is likely that the whole team received training from Craft and received the apparel from them, or maybe just the individual did, or maybe it's even simpler than that, perhaps the man wearing the hat simply likes the hat and purchased it from Craft.

Their presence does lend credence to the idea that authorities may have had prior intelligence of a possible bombing, or were in fact holding a drill that day.

Sources: http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/fort-hamilton-anti-ter...

http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/16/nat_gua...

What do they do?: http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/policy/army/f...

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Problems with that ...

(1) Rhode Island ANG accounts for only two members present.
(2) She says her people "were not at the crowded finish line ..."
(3) She says her guys and the guys from Mass NG were DENIED access to the area to do their job -- so who is the guy testing for radiation?
(4) None of this says what uniform her guys were wearing at the time. There is just an implication by the author when he says that her guys wear NAVY and khaki (not BLACK and khaki). In fact, there were also numerous guys there who were dressed in BDU's. NG/CST also wear BDU's sometimes. So, we still don't know for sure as those particular individuals are not identified.
(5) And most important to me, there is NO QUESTION that ONE of those guys was wearing a Craft hat. I was in the military and I would never think of wearing, say an LA Dodgers baseball cap with my uniform and if I did, nobody else would allow it. You can be sure that THESE guys pull this duty because they are GUNG HO military types and they would NEVER wear a uniform while also being "out of uniform" and the guys around them would never allow it. This says that at least that guy has a connection to Craft, and his associates have no problem with him wearing a Craft hat for some reason.

You provided evidence but NOT "CONFIRMED" proof. This info tells us there were CST guys there. We DO NOT know which ones they were and what ALL of those guys dressed like that were doing there that day.

*IF* it was a false flag, there would be people there who were "credentialed" to observe, if nothing else.

I do appreciate your research, though. You are doing a good job of poking holes in the points made by those who are poking holes in the "official" narrative. That is healthy.

The author updated the article, to include this:

Massachusetts Army National Guard 1st CST were at the finish line and able to quickly respond, however the 13th CST was “several blocks” from the finish line at the time of the twin terror bombings. When that unit tried to move into position to respond, the 13th was held back after law enforcement denied them access to the scene at the finish line.

In an exclusive interview on Saturday with Washington Times Communities, Lieutenant Colonel Lisa Meriwether, commander of the 22 member Rhode Island National Guard 13th CST stated that the 13st CST did a sweep earlier in the day.

We did have members up there. Two members at first, and two additional members after the fact to provide communications … The 1st CST did a sweep earlier. My two personnel plus members of the 13th CST (typographical error corrected to reflect 13th CST) tried to move toward the scene but were turned away by law enforcement.”

(Note: A source from the Massachusettes National Guard has contacted Communities to futher clarify, that in the initial confusion, the National Guard unit was not immediately recognized as they were not in a traditional uniform, however, they were quickly recognized and part of the first responders to the blast site providing essential aid and assistance.)

The 1st CST was at the finish line with their vehicles after the explosion.

View these photos of 1st CST personnel:

http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/1389663/Photo-Release-Un...

http://states.ng.mil/sites/MA/News/PublishingImages/2012/04/...

And compare them with photos of the men at the scene:

http://i.imgur.com/hwRrHc3.jpg

http://imgur.com/a/YrTOK

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Yes, I saw all of that ...

... who do you think from CST are in the Boston pics?

Can you point to the specific individuals and match them up?

In my opinion

In my opinion the second poster in this link does a decent job of pointing out three of the men that look similar: http://theminorityreport.forummotion.com/t1335-identity-of-t...

Even if they can't be identified by simply looking at the photos it doesn't really matter, because my case doesn't rest on whether or not I can positively identify each individual.

I think the Washington Times article based on the interview with the 13th CST's commander, plus the corroborating photos showing men wearing CST uniforms and standing next to known CST vehicles at the finish line is good enough to show that CSTs were at the finish line.

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It may have been posted already, but:

if there were National Guard troops outside of their post, conducting policing activities (Advising the police IS policing) on civilian territory;

that's a violation of Posse Comitatus. I know, no one prosecutes that. But maybe we need to start somewhere...

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Bump!

JoshArizona please check this link out.First time finding this site,look at the pictures.Something is not adding up.

http://www.hangthebankers.com/proof-boston-marathon-bombing-...

Drill

There is no QUESTION there was a drill that day, as it was not just told to the coach, but was said over the LOUDSPEAKERS for all to hear.

And where is that 'white anti-gov tea party lone wolf' type they were going to arraign at Moakley on Weds until they suddenly canceled it for a bomb scare?

Is he in a landfill somewhere?

I shudder to think.

The pack with the white square is the one that exploded and it was JUST LIKE the one carried by one of the above mentioned crew, and he was seen running away WITHOUT IT. I just hope they are going to punish the RIGHT PEOPLE for this is all I care about. And you can't blame people for questioning things when so many lies and inconsistencies have been detected, that confuse the issue of who did it.

Oh and also, they won't stop trying to attach this to the tea party or to patriots or liberty groups.... but the fact remains that the FBI knew about these two for years...

So, if they were trying to protect, big fail.

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For all those who think they

For all those who think they saw something that doesn't support the official FBI story...please step forward for your free eye exam...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUvEyclQjdI

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not near the line ?

didnt we see the images showing 2 guys who were near the finish line, first on the side where the bomb went off and then on the opposite side ?
even their unmarked black SUV was there after the blast.
why lie about this when there are images showing them there ?

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The only thing this proves is

The only thing this proves is that your tax money is be wasted on security measures that don't work! These guys failed, and are trying to sweep their failure under the rug.

Instead of these idiots they need dogs, but dogs can't waste tax money quite the same way....

http://www.dailypaul.com/283054/conspiracy-i-dont-think-so

Sure. But still. Wouldn't it

Sure. But still. Wouldn't it be interesting to know why they were there, especially with the drills going on beforehand. Craft sounds like serious business, and not the type of group to be running around with detection equipment just because. If they were hired to be there, why? Shouldn't be difficult to explain.

Also didn't their founder Chris Kyle get murdered in some unexplained range accident recently?

spooky.

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What a Mess

Since both Rhode Island's CSTs (blue uniform combination) and Massachusetts' CSTs (BDU) were initially blocked by "law enforcement" from entering the blast zone, allegedly New York's CSTs were the "support" personnel at the finish line in the immediate aftermath of the explosion. Hence, the New York team consisting of 5 personnel must have been authorized to wear the blue uniform combination as well. Now, scour the photographs in the immediate aftermath to see if only five personnel were present with the blue uniform combination at the finish line. If so, then I'll agree that the "support" personnel at the finish line were members of New York's CST. However, we still have the thorny issue of at least one member of New York's CST at the finish line wearing apparently unauthorized clothing, i.e. a hat with a logo similar to Craft International, which is punishable under UCMJ regulations.

I think I got the basic gist of the two articles correctly.

NY's CST was not the only team at the finish line.

More than just 5 men from NY's CST made their way to the finish line: "Those two personnel, along with similarly trained experts from the Massachusetts Army National Guard CST, were denied access to the scene by “law enforcement,”"

"“We did have members up there. Two members at first, and two additional members after the fact to provide communications … The 1st CST did a sweep earlier. My two personnel plus members of the 1st CST tried to move toward the scene but were turned away by law enforcement.”"

The 1st CST was not wearing ACUs, they were wearing the same uniforms as the 13th and 24th CSTs.

Pictures corroborating their move toward the finish line and showing what they were wearing: http://imgur.com/a/YrTOK

http://i.imgur.com/hwRrHc3.jpg

Pictures of 1st CST members, compare with above photos for identification: http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/1389663/Photo-Release-Un...

http://states.ng.mil/sites/MA/News/PublishingImages/2012/04/...

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Confirmed

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/freedom-...

They are in fact the National Guard's 1st, 13th, and 24th Civil Support Teams.

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Infowars now reporting CST identification:

http://www.infowars.com/military-men-witnessed-at-boston-bom...

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Just updated

Photos of current members of the Massachusetts National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team:

http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/1389663/Photo-Release-Un...

http://states.ng.mil/sites/MA/News/PublishingImages/2012/04/...

Some of these men appear to be the same men spotted at the Boston Marathon.

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Same Craft guys in CT and MA?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=643671582314486&set=...

The far left one is Michael McGowan and the other two are reported to be David Enllgren and Liam Seabrook?

Craft or Crisis Actors?

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A little more context ...

... thank you for posting that. According to a post on that page, it is claimed that those 3 in CT were the FIRST police officers to arrive at the Sandy Hook Elementary School. That's why they were being interviewed.

Did they all ride in the same car?

Probably not. They just happened to be there before other cops.

Now then, what are the odds the same 3 guys would both be Connecticut state troopers AND also be in the Massachusetts National Guard?

About ... zero percent?

And what are the odds each "team" of 3 would look just like the other, both of which just happen to be where mass murders took place -- by sheer coincidence?

Very close to zero percent?

And why would FBI say don't look at any other photos?

BTW: Doesn't Newtown have a cop shop right down the street from SHE? If so, wouldn't the 911 call come in there and not CT state police? Why would CT state police arrive on the scene first?

They do look strikingly

They do look strikingly similar, strange odds indeed. I wonder if anyone has tried to find out who these particular 3 are. Not accusing anyone of course.

It just seems like these craft guys are too easily being dismissed, even by some independent media. Knowing what they do, their presence there is somewhat unsettling.

That Sandy Hook video certainly didn't put to rest any suspicions.

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According to what you posted above, the presence of CST's...

...would seem to indicate somebody's radar was up about something, rather than them just being there as standard precaution.

"A Weapons of Mass Destruction Civil Support Team (WMD-CST or CST) advises civilian responders in the event of a suspected weapon of mass destruction attack..."

(bold and italics emphasis mine)

I tried to get that point across in the OP....

but so many people would rather ignore this, and fantasize about the guys being "mercenaries who planted the bomb".

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Problem is, even if they're not Craft, it reeks of foreknowledge

The confirmed FBI involvement in 2011 regarding at least the older suspect does drastically decrease the odds of randomness regarding the bombing.

...not to mention the curious behavior of the person in the shadows donning an earpiece as if he's communicating with someone in response to them going by, as well as the article indicating they may have been hired by U.S. and Saudi intelligence and ~went over~ to al Qaeda.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57580534/fbi-interviewed...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80DXI932OE&feature=youtu.be
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/04/israeli-publica...

I know it suggests prior knowledge.

This is from my OP: "Their presence does lend credence to the idea that authorities may have had prior intelligence of a possible bombing, or were in fact holding a drill that day."

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Unfortunately, you're the

Unfortunately, you're the main proponent of the fantasy that ALL or ANY of the "support" personnel at the finish line were members of the ANG's CSTs. ANG CSTs were definitely at the Boston Marathon, but insisting the "support" personnel at the finish line were ALL or ANY members of those ANG CST's is just silly since military commanders don't allow their personnel to wear unauthorized items or dissimilar uniforms even IF some of those alleged ANG personnel were wearing CST placards. LoL

Your assertion...

that US military personnel never ever wear dissimilar uniforms or non-issue hats is laughable.

I suppose these Air Force rescue guys are mercs because some of them are wearing non-issue hats, right?: http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/070228-F-2992S...

And I suppose these US Army SF guys must be mercs too because they are wearing non-issue hats, right?: http://en.specwar.info/special-forces/usa/us-army-special-fo... and http://www.airsoftxmx.com/pincho/SF/greenberet8_resize.jpg

And I suppose these guys from JTF 242 must be mercs too because they are wearing non-issue hats, right?: http://cryptome.org/0003/so-jtf-242/so-jtf-242.htm

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yeah...BUT

All of the pics from the links you posted are of special forces personnel in a hostile combat zone... The beards would normally be considered "out of uniform", and the hats are approved for special forces strictly. There are no special forces in the state militias/National Guard, and I don't believe that the attire worn by the men in the bomb scene pictures would be authorized for official duty. They definitely look like private contractors.

I'm a vet, btw.

CST wears non-standard uniforms...

as can be seen in the photos of CST members wearing black and khaki i posted in the OP, so it reasonable to believe they have less stringent uniform standards.

Even Infowars is backing off the mercenaries claim now: http://www.infowars.com/military-men-witnessed-at-boston-bom...

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Why don't you enlighten us all....

by making the case for mercenaries.

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You have a couple of eyes,

You have a couple of eyes, use them. We all know that you can see a couple of CST placards and extrapolate from there, but can't seem to see other vital information that renders your extrapolation unlikely. LoL

Gee...

Thanks for thoroughly laying out your case for mercs...

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