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CONFIRMED: Identity of the Men In Black and Khaki Uniforms at the Boston Marathon Bombings

Update 3: This article confirms that the 1st, 13th, and 24th CSTs are in fact the men in black and khaki: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/freedom-...

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Update 2: Pictures of current members of the Massachusetts National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team

http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/1389663/Photo-Release-Un...

http://states.ng.mil/sites/MA/News/PublishingImages/2012/04/...

Some of these men look to be the same guys spotted in the Boston Marathon photos.

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Update: According to this article from the Air National Guard site: http://www.ang.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123344967

"The Massachusetts team was on duty during the running of the Boston marathon, augmented by similar civil support teams from the New York and Rhode Island National Guards."

So it would appear that the CST team on duty during the explosion was the Massachusetts Army National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team, augmented by New York's 24th CST and Rhode Island's 13th CST.

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They are the New York Army National Guard's 24th Civil Support Team. Massachusetts Army National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team, augmented by New York's 24th CST and Rhode Island's 13th CST.

"A Weapons of Mass Destruction Civil Support Team (WMD-CST or CST) advises civilian responders in the event of a suspected weapon of mass destruction attack. CSTs are federally funded National Guard units established under Presidential Decision Directive 39. There are 57 fulltime teams: one in every U.S. state, Washington, D.C., Puerto Rico, Guam and the US Virgin Islands, and an additional team each in California, Florida and New York."

Here are more photos of them: http://imgur.com/a/YrTOK

Here is a photo of some of them wearing vests identifying them as CST: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/apr/15/boston-m...

The vehicles they are using are identical to those used by other Army National Guard CSTs as well, as can be seen here: http://www.oregon.gov/OMD/pressrelease/2010/feb/2-22/100222-...

http://www.oregon.gov/omd/pages/pressrelease/2010/02-22-10pr...

http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391311/6th-civil-support-team-...

Here is picture of one of the vehicles as seen in this .PDF about CST operations (http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/DR_pubs/dr_a/pdf/fm3_11x22...): http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/advon-team.jpg

As for their use of non-standard uniforms instead of the Army Combat Uniform, here are earlier pictures from 2011 and 2012 of CST members wearing khaki and black: http://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=22521 , http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123259663 , http://dmva.alaska.gov/content/galleria/Alaska%20National%20... , http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391361/6th-civil-support-team-... , http://www.army.mil/media/235471 , http://www.nationalguard.mil/news/archives/2010/09/090210-CS... , and http://www.army.mil/article/78045/

Here at the marathon: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/apr/15/boston-m...

Here on duty in Washington D.C.: http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=123237536

Here in black and Khaki and standing next to their vehicles: http://hermes.lssu.edu/~jshibley/Release%20Photos/LSSUSecCon...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenationalguard/3311685893/

Here with a backpack that looks identical to those of the uniformed men in Boston: http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391303/6th-civil-support-team-...

As to why one of them were seen wearing Craft apparel, Craft International provides training programs to police and military, and it is likely that the whole team received training from Craft and received the apparel from them, or maybe just the individual did, or maybe it's even simpler than that, perhaps the man wearing the hat simply likes the hat and purchased it from Craft.

Their presence does lend credence to the idea that authorities may have had prior intelligence of a possible bombing, or were in fact holding a drill that day.

Sources: http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/fort-hamilton-anti-ter...

http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/16/nat_gua...

What do they do?: http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/policy/army/f...




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Because I am sloppy, and mind-controlled, and deranged.

It is easy to control psychopaths. They take advantage of the 10% BAD APPLES in the military and drain the life out of the rest of the good guys.

The longer the Illuminati propagate this bull s-h-i-t nonsense, the more ridiculous it gets.

At some point, there will be a critical mass, and a witching hour.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Your subject line should be

Your subject line should be your signature =D

Ridiculous theory.

even i wouldnt credit them

even i wouldnt credit them with complete arrogance to think to control the peoples narrative so completly, i mean, you gotta be pretty damn arrogant to think that, ..... then again

50:50

Plausable, but ...

... the problem is, those guys in the pics are not wearing anything to indicate they were CST. But they were wearing things to indicate they were Craft (and only 1 guy had his jacket open so we could see the logo on his shirt; we don't know if the other guys were also wearing similar logo shirts).

The pics you show have guys wearing vests with CST clearly indicated. Likewise, your first link of the Air National Guard shows a guy in BTUs and wearing a CST placard. People who are employees of the government generally wear something to indicate their "authority."

Maybe the CST guys were dressed more like this:
http://www.army.mil/article/101170/Massachusetts_National_Gu...

We just don't know based on the article.

And as you said, it does not rule out a drill. Nor, does it rule out a dark element. We just don't know, based on the current evidence.

These same guys are seen exiting...

and congregating around CST Vehicles: http://imgur.com/a/YrTOK#Jvmnvl1

Is it reasonable to believe that anyone other than the CSTs would be using their vehicles?

These vehicles are CST vehicles: http://i.imgur.com/U8LVKtJh.jpg

Here are identical vehicles from Oregon's 102nd CST: http://www.oregon.gov/OMD/pressrelease/2010/feb/2-22/100222-...

And they are wearing the same uniforms as the other CSTs seen here minus the placard (some of these CSTs are not wearing a vest with a placard either in this picture): http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/apr/15/boston-m...

And lack of the identifying placard on them, does not prove they are not CSTs, if they wanted to remain somewhat inconspicuous they wouldn't be wearing the Kevlar vests with the placards on them, it is only after the bombing that some of the CSTs don Kevlar vests.

Here are pictures of known CSTs wearing black and khaki: http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=123237536 , http://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=22521 , http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123259663 , http://dmva.alaska.gov/content/galleria/Alaska%20National%20... , and http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391361/6th-civil-support-team-...

Here in black and Khaki and standing next to one of their trucks: http://hermes.lssu.edu/~jshibley/Release%20Photos/LSSUSecCon...

Here with a backpack that looks identical to those of the uniformed men in Boston: http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391303/6th-civil-support-team-...

And the guy with the open Jacket is not wearing a shirt with the Craft logo, look closer: http://s13.postimg.org/qrvmbsr7b/sec.jpg

In fact the logo looks closer to this (the CST emblem): http://www.uniforms-4u.com/Productimages/13896/big-u-army-na...

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Yep ...

... you might be right.

I will at least give YOU credit for examining an argument you disagreed with and providing evidence to support your case, unlike MOST of the people who have a knee-jerk defense of the government's theory without any examination of evidence.

The one guy absolutely does have a Craft hat on, but that shirt logo looks more like the CST logo.

And btw ...

... it's not necessarily either/or. The Craft guys are contract employees, and they do government work instead of military. That's what they do.

And whether they are Craft or military, it doesn't mean that they NECESSARILY are involved in black ops. Indeed, MOST of their work is going to be legit.

But these are the TYPES of people who it is claimed are most likely to be involved in black ops -- them, and FBI/CIA.

So, if the two suspects are patsies of some sort, it could be a "drill gone live" situation. That's why due process is important -- to get at the facts, and that includes finding out if there was a drill and who was involved, what went down, etc.

By its very nature, of course, such information is not going to be forthcoming, which is why people have to try to look for things that do not seem to make sense. If there are reasonable explanations, that's fine. If not, then we've got a problem. What is not fine, however, is to refuse to look at evidence (and that applies to people on both sides).

The reason that "conspiracy theories" exist is because (a) history tells us that black ops conspiracies really DO happen from time to time, (b) people in government have a tenancy to refuse full disclosure even when there are innocent explanations, and most importantly (c) government-story apologists do not demand that government give full disclosure -- it's as if they worship government and they will believe anything someone says if that someone happens to be wearing the right costume.

If government gave full disclosure when questions arise, then these issues would go away -- except, of course, when a real conspiracy happens.

;-)

The FBI should've answered the "drill" question

instead of ignoring it and moving on to another question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXg1uwFvfNg

Still no pics of them helping victims.

Yes, they had a job to do, but when you see people bleeding to death, do you talk on a walkie talkie or help a life?

I get out of the way

if the people already on the scene have more medical knowledge than I do.

Defend Liberty!

If their job is to make sure there wasn't CBRN exposure...

then they were doing their job, they were just doing what they were trained to do in such an event.

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lol you're just mad cause

lol you're just mad cause you, AJ and the rest assumed that they were super secret Navy SEALS for hire.

I assumed they were mercenaries?

Did you even bother reading this thread, where I debunked the assumption that they were mercenaries?

Perhaps, you are the one making assumptions.

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Yes, I read your post but I

Yes, I read your post but I misread your comment... sorry. Thought you were a truther. I'm actually really happy that you've figured out who they are.

there you go again...thinking

there you go again...thinking you have it all figured out.

Hopefully one day you'll discover the true source of 'terrorism'...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/why-government-should-be-the-fir...

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

yeah whatever. anytime

yeah whatever. anytime something happens, the government did it... I'll be shocked if I ever see you admit when you're wrong.

I was wrong to vote for

I was wrong to vote for George W. Bush in 2000.

As much as I like Dr. Paul...I was wrong to donate thousands of $$$ to his campaign. Come to find out, I was actually supporting the Jesse Benton Retirement Fund....who earned over $500,000. I'll never again financially support any political candidate.

So yeah...I've gotten it wrong quite a few times.

So, if you trust govt. so much, why are you even at the DP?

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

I think we should call it

I think we should call it quits. As far as I'm concerned, you're on the moon. Even Dr. Paul was an inside job... His people got paid!? Oh noes! dude, do you need meds? Look at Axlerod's paycheck.

I must trust the government so much because I don't join you in making a fool of myself by jumping to conclusions?

And great, you admit you were wrong for voting for Bush... what a big man you are for doing what millions have already done before you.

Take your meds.

(whoa, just realized why so many of you are so paranoid over meds.... you have been fighting taking them for years yourself and this gives you an excuse)

Really? Over $500K for Jesse

Really? Over $500K for Jesse Benton is reasonable? LOL

Most of Dr. Paul's supporters had to struggle and sacrifice to make those contributions...while Romney and Obama sucked down millions from the banks and special interest groups. Only an idiot would compare Axelrod to Benton. Paying big bucks to Axelrod is typical Chicago politics...a small grassroots campaign paying Benton over a million bucks for his services the last few years is SHAMEFUL!

Dr. Paul was willing to be President for $34K a year. Does it make sense to pay his campaign manager 20 times that amount?

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2013/02/ron-paul-network-was...

http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/05/18/jesse-bentons-5866...

Even Tom Woods told it like it was...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw_B5bx8GKc

I'll guarantee if Dr. Paul had asked Woods to be his campaign manager, Woods would have gladly done it for next to nothing.

You must be out of the loop...countless people at the DP have been outraged with Benton and would never in a million years send a penny to anything he touches.

I don't know much about 'taking meds'...I'll leave that to your expertise. I've been to the doctor probably twice in my life, and drugs/alcohol aren't my thing.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

I read the open secrets link

I read the open secrets link you posted. Again, you've exaggerated. Why do you do this? I'm serious. Everything you believe is grossly exaggerated with a bias to the cynical. Why?

"But Benton's most lucrative cycle was the one that just ended. From January 2011 through the end of 2012 he received more than $682,000 from Ron Paul's presidential and congressional campaign committees and Liberty PAC. In fairness, just $226,000 was described as "salary" or "consulting." Close to $456,000 of it was described as reimbursement.

What accounts for the huge reimbursement figure? "Charter airlines was the big bulk of it," Benton told OpenSecrets.org. "I put charter airlines for the campaign onto my personal AmEx and got reimbursed for it. That practice stopped as soon as we got a proper line of credit.""

LOL...456K mostly in airline

LOL...456K mostly in airline fees? Are you really so ignorant to believe what Jesse says? I hope the IRS audits him.

226K itself is OUTRAGEOUS. US Senators don't even make that much. Most Americans are living each year off LESS THAN the DIFFERENCE in Jesse's BASE salary and what a US Senator makes.

You're gullible as hell. I'm serious.

I hope one day you can wake up from the mindless, scripted, whitewashed MSM and government propaganda.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Can you read or are you just

Can you read or are you just anxious to confirm your bias.... it doesn't say airline fees. It says chartered flights for the campaign.... like when Ron Paul flew to Iowa and NH and back a lot?

One person I sure don't trust is you. lol

226k is not outrageous. Clinton paid her staff 7 figures. 226k is less than a lot of obama staffers.

Thought I smelled something.

Thought I smelled something. That BS of yours smells from a mile away.

It was an absolute disgrace for Benton to receive hundreds of thousands of dollars from Dr. Paul's campaign. End of story. I challenge you to find one other person on this forum who agrees with YOU on Benton and that his pay was reasonable for services performed. I'll look forward to seeing them post below.

My apologies again for not using the correct wording, as I rarely ever choose to be sexually molested in airports. You probably look forward to it and fly daily. Airline fees...chartered flights...whatever...we'll call it expenses. Ok? I don't give a flying f%$&.

And don't come back posting that Jesse put the ENTIRE Ron Paul campaign's 'chartered flights' on his personal American Express Card. He didn't say he was paying for others expenses.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

lol if you find someone on

lol if you find someone on this forum anymore who's not insane, please tell me!

You didn't just use the wrong words, you completely misrepresent what Benton spent the money on. Frankly, you're a liar and I'm sick of you following me and replying to every post I make on this forum and lying about stuff. :)

pot calling the kettle... Why

pot calling the kettle...

Why are we discussing what Benton said? I don't believe a word coming out of his mouth (or yours either). You're relying on an article to tell you where all that money went...and you believe it's gospel.

You think I twist facts for my purpose, and I think you do the same. You think I'm a liar, and I think you are as well. By the way, I could care less what you think.

Let's look at the Liberty PAC expense report...

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/expenditures.php?cmte=C00234...

nuff said.

And as far as ME following YOU...more of you twisting the facts. Looks to me like you're responding to my replies, and I'm responding to yours. I don't see anyone 'following' anyone...so quit your lies....liar.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

I am "relying on an article"

I am "relying on an article" that you posted as source material for why I should believe you.... please, this isn't fun anymore. You don't make a lot of sense.

plenty of fun for me...and

plenty of fun for me...and you don't make much sense either.

People like you are always entertaining. If I could buy you for what you are worth...and sell you for what you think you are worth...I'd be a billionaire. You're overinflated opinion of yourself IS truly entertaining.

I posted the article only to reference his earnings. You scoured it to find a detail you could nitpick. You chose a quote of his and have declared that one single quote is true and accurate.

You make Obama's deceptions look amateurish. Well done.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

No worries.

We all make mistakes.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Ya, downvote him for being fair...

that'll show him!

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

They're not mercenaries?

But but but...AJ said they were, but AL said they probably planted the bomb....but AJ....

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