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CONFIRMED: Identity of the Men In Black and Khaki Uniforms at the Boston Marathon Bombings

Update 3: This article confirms that the 1st, 13th, and 24th CSTs are in fact the men in black and khaki: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/freedom-...

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Update 2: Pictures of current members of the Massachusetts National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team

http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/1389663/Photo-Release-Un...

http://states.ng.mil/sites/MA/News/PublishingImages/2012/04/...

Some of these men look to be the same guys spotted in the Boston Marathon photos.

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Update: According to this article from the Air National Guard site: http://www.ang.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123344967

"The Massachusetts team was on duty during the running of the Boston marathon, augmented by similar civil support teams from the New York and Rhode Island National Guards."

So it would appear that the CST team on duty during the explosion was the Massachusetts Army National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team, augmented by New York's 24th CST and Rhode Island's 13th CST.

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They are the New York Army National Guard's 24th Civil Support Team. Massachusetts Army National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team, augmented by New York's 24th CST and Rhode Island's 13th CST.

"A Weapons of Mass Destruction Civil Support Team (WMD-CST or CST) advises civilian responders in the event of a suspected weapon of mass destruction attack. CSTs are federally funded National Guard units established under Presidential Decision Directive 39. There are 57 fulltime teams: one in every U.S. state, Washington, D.C., Puerto Rico, Guam and the US Virgin Islands, and an additional team each in California, Florida and New York."

Here are more photos of them: http://imgur.com/a/YrTOK

Here is a photo of some of them wearing vests identifying them as CST: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/apr/15/boston-m...

The vehicles they are using are identical to those used by other Army National Guard CSTs as well, as can be seen here: http://www.oregon.gov/OMD/pressrelease/2010/feb/2-22/100222-...

http://www.oregon.gov/omd/pages/pressrelease/2010/02-22-10pr...

http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391311/6th-civil-support-team-...

Here is picture of one of the vehicles as seen in this .PDF about CST operations (http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/DR_pubs/dr_a/pdf/fm3_11x22...): http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/advon-team.jpg

As for their use of non-standard uniforms instead of the Army Combat Uniform, here are earlier pictures from 2011 and 2012 of CST members wearing khaki and black: http://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=22521 , http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123259663 , http://dmva.alaska.gov/content/galleria/Alaska%20National%20... , http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391361/6th-civil-support-team-... , http://www.army.mil/media/235471 , http://www.nationalguard.mil/news/archives/2010/09/090210-CS... , and http://www.army.mil/article/78045/

Here at the marathon: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/apr/15/boston-m...

Here on duty in Washington D.C.: http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=123237536

Here in black and Khaki and standing next to their vehicles: http://hermes.lssu.edu/~jshibley/Release%20Photos/LSSUSecCon...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thenationalguard/3311685893/

Here with a backpack that looks identical to those of the uniformed men in Boston: http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391303/6th-civil-support-team-...

As to why one of them were seen wearing Craft apparel, Craft International provides training programs to police and military, and it is likely that the whole team received training from Craft and received the apparel from them, or maybe just the individual did, or maybe it's even simpler than that, perhaps the man wearing the hat simply likes the hat and purchased it from Craft.

Their presence does lend credence to the idea that authorities may have had prior intelligence of a possible bombing, or were in fact holding a drill that day.

Sources: http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/fort-hamilton-anti-ter...

http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/16/nat_gua...

What do they do?: http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/policy/army/f...

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Some would rather have an exciting story...

than the boring old truth.

There will be many who will continue to loudly proclaim these men are mercenaries regardless of any evidence to the contrary.

I guess we should just let them make fools of themselves, why should we care?

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I'm just going to...

Continue to think for myself...And I see at least utter incompetence of the intelligence agencies being paid to protect the USA, and at worst, as Alex Jones described, a false flag operation to take the rights of the citizens...Both will result in the same outcome...I would say that Alex is usually right on the money and that the Government is almost always involved in these modern "attacks"...Even this administration was caught with their pants down executing the Fast and Furious false flag...So why couldn't it have happened? Am I making a fool of myself for having the wherewithal to at least leave it on the table as an option? I think not...But I will still support freedom of speech to you deserve to make your point, and I too will not rule out that the MSM is telling the "boring old truth"...But I highly doubt it...

Bad food, worse weather, please rEVOLution the states so I can bring my family back home!
Rosa Koire for for President!

I'm not telling you to trust the official story...

I am stating that it is foolish to proclaim that these men are employees of Craft International, when there is evidence to the contrary showing that they are National Guardsmen

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As I explained to you in a

As I explained to you in a different response, members of the military including the National Guard have a strict dress code so the only foolish response is concluding that ALL of these similarly clad individuals are members of CST's from various state National Guards. Some of them clearly are members of CSTs, but, AGAIN, the available photographs certainly don't support your contention that ALL are. Prove to us at least one commander of these units authorized the wear of hats (and possibly other clothing) with a logo from Craft International. ;)

If you bothered reading through my entire post...

You would find many examples of known CSTs wearing black and khaki uniforms of varying styles.

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Ok, we understand you're

Ok, we understand that you're avoiding a legitimate question while assuming, wrongly, that I haven't looked through your links. From our previous exchange, you should have known better. ;) I'll add another question. If a logo on one of the hats and possibly other attire is part of the logo of one of these units, then why aren't other members of this same unit wearing attire with the same logo? Posting the logos from ALL of these alleged CSTs might be instructive as a starting point.

How bout you make the case for them being mercs..

I sure hope your entire case isn't that one guy is wearing a Craft hat.

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TROLL

TROLL

That's rich coming from you...

Mr. 3 months.

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How about you studying the

How about you studying the photograph on the first page of your link to the story on the ANG with the members of the unit all dressed identically in BDUs while on duty?

How about you studying...

the multiple photographs of CST members wearing black and khaki, which you are implying they don't wear:

Here at the marathon: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/apr/15/boston-m...

Here on duty in Washington D.C.: http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=123237536

Various CSTs wearing them here: http://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=22521

http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123259663

http://dmva.alaska.gov/content/galleria/Alaska%20National%20...

http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391361/6th-civil-support-team-...

http://www.army.mil/media/235471

http://www.nationalguard.mil/news/archives/2010/09/090210-CS...

http://www.army.mil/article/78045/

Here in black and Khaki and standing next to one of their trucks: http://hermes.lssu.edu/~jshibley/Release%20Photos/LSSUSecCon...

Here with a backpack that looks identical to those of the uniformed men in Boston: http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391303/6th-civil-support-team-...

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How about you studying the

How about you studying the photograph on the first page of your link to the story on the ANG with the members of the unit all dressed indentically in BDUs while on duty?

Stop making sense, you'll

Stop making sense, you'll rile up the inmates...

A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves.

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at least this thread doesn't have . . .

comments accusing anyone who is trying to get at the core of this . . .

of being an "AJ whore"--

*shaking my head*

This is sounding like the most rational thing I have read so far about what is happening and has happened in Boston--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

The article from Brooklyn

The article from Brooklyn Daily Eagle clearly states the CST was sent after the bombings.

Members of an elite anti-terror unit from Brooklyn’s Fort Hamilton Army Base were deployed to Boston to assist in the recovery effort following the horrific April 15 bombing, a lawmaker has revealed.

US Rep. Michael Grimm (R-C-Bay Ridge-Staten Island) said members of the 24th National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction Civil Defense Team went to Boston after the bombing.

So it could not be the Fort Hamilton CST team in the photos or they are lying.

The rest of the article is interesting as well

Grimm also announced that the unit, which had been in danger of being disbanded by the Defense Department, would remain intact.

US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, who just two weeks ago reiterated his decision to shut down civil support teams at two military bases, including Fort Hamilton, suddenly reversed course, telling a House subcommittee on Tuesday that he would support keeping the units intact.

You may be right...

that they could be lying, or it could have been a misstatement.

According to this article from the Air National Guard site: http://www.ang.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123344967

"The Massachusetts team was on duty during the running of the Boston marathon, augmented by similar civil support teams from the New York and Rhode Island National Guards."

So it would appear that the CST team on duty during the explosion was the Massachusetts Army National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team, augmented by New York's 24th CST and Rhode Island's 13th CST.

By augmented I'm not sure if they mean NY and RH's teams joined later, or if some of them were present at the time.

But, the MA team was confirmed to be there at the time, and this article claims that NY's team was there at the time as well: http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/16/nat_gua...

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the article also states "The

the article also states "The 24th National Guard WMD-CST team has done exceptional job, not just in New York, but also in Boston where they were on the ground responding to the horrific attack on the marathon,” Grimm said on April 16."

CST vehicles can be seen at the scene before and right after...

the explosions, and men clearly identified as CST can be seen moving toward the explosion right after it occurred.

Look at the images on this page, these CST vehicles are exactly the same as the vehicles seen at the scene as it was happening: http://www.oregon.gov/omd/pages/pressrelease/2010/02-22-10pr...

Compare those vehicles to these ones at the scene: http://imgur.com/a/YrTOK

Here is photo of men clearly identified as CST at the scene after the explosion wearing the same uniforms: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/apr/15/boston-m...

They were clearly in Boston before, during, and right after the bombings.

Also, this article states they were on hand at the time of the explosions: http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/16/nat_gua...

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Clearly identified as CST

Yet our focus is on those not so clearly identified.

Which picture shows the vehicle at the scene before the explosions?

The men clearly identified as CST are wearing the same uniform..

as the men without the vests with the CST placard.

And all the men wearing that uniform without the placard can be seen congregating around the CST vehicles.

What evidence do you have that these men wearing the same uniform, surrounding the CST vehicles, are not also CST?

Here are the vehicles and the men directly after the explosion: http://imgur.com/a/YrTOK

In order for them to respond in the moments after the explosion, they would already have to be there, they couldn't still be in New York.

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If they were CST

why did they not have 'CST' on their uniform?

You titled your post, 'CST Vehicles Can Be Seen Before and Right After'
Where can they be seen 'before'?

Go ahead and believe whatever you want...

and ignore the mountain of evidence that these guys are not mercenaries.

Why should I care if you want to make a fool out of yourself?

In order for the CST vehicles to respond in the moments after the explosions, they would already have to be there, and this article states that both MA and NY's CSTs were at the Boston Marathon before the explosions: http://killerapps.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/16/nat_gua...

Whether I have picture of them before the explosion is irrelevant, the men everybody is accusing of being mercenaries are wearing the same uniforms as the other CSTs and can be seen congregating around and using the CST vehicles.

Here are the men in question wearing the same uniforms, all congregating around the CST vehicles:

What's next, are you arbitrarily going to tell me that some of the men wearing the same uniform are CST, but not all of them?

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I made a fool of myself

by asking questions?

Here's your mirror.

No.

I said if you wanted to believe they were mercenaries in spite of evidence to the contrary, you would be making a fool of yourself.

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You've made up your mind

I have not.

The fool could well be you.

Thanks!

Thanks!

Great job JoshArizona!

This certainly fits well with the comments from the boys' father about a "set-up".
They may have recruited these kids the way they have done every other time.
Not a big leap with the eye witness reports of a "drill".

The kids had to have strong cover and heavy support to acquire the explosives, handle them before the event and the "blind eye" that allowed them to deposit the bags.

Who benefits?

Certainly not the kids.
Certainly not the Chechians.

The "War for Terror" will be the benefactor.

Or they could have been

Or they could have been recruited by an Islamist extremist group. Perhaps there was a tip...hence the presence of all of the above.

if all of these incidents have truly been created by . . .

foreign terrorists with an ideological/political agenda and no link to any U.S. agencies--

then American freedoms are still being dismantled, one by one.

How to explain this kind of thing:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/omaha-police-video-...

These sorts of things are happening all over America, and the police are generally getting away with it. The American people are not outraged enough not to get emotionally caught up in the deaths of 3 people by bombing in Boston, which shut down an entire city for how many hours/days?

And, yes, people are dying from police brutality--

but America is not calling these police terrorists--

There is a serious cognitive disconnection here.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--