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We sure are a paranoid bunch...

I mean it.

Whenever anything bad happens, we tend to look to the govt instead of the perpetrators. Do I believe that elements in our govt could do heinous things? Yup. Do I believe that every single time something happens its govt sponsored? Nope.

I find it kinda funny that the same govt we have zero faith in accomplishing anything is capable of pulling off one conspiracy after another.

If its true.. its the ONLY damn thing that they are good at!!!

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The state is the paranoid entity

As they are guilty with blood, corruption and slavery in their agenda…

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves." - Edward R. Murrow

"We sure are a paranoid bunch..."

Speak for yourself.

Discovering the truth of your government

is comparable to being betrayed by a lover, a friend, or a close family member. Once one realizes they have been deceived by a trusted entity, everything they do or say becomes suspect.

Consider the source

What's the source of the truth? YouTube?

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Granger, you can find tangible books on what I allude to & link

(Nope. Not just Youtube.)

Granger, you can find tangible books on what I allude to and link in this comment:

http://www.dailypaul.com/282742#comment-3049138

Just ask me if you need pointers to such books about the War in the Vendée. I have a couple of those at home.

It's useful, IMO, to draw parallel through and between time and space, American people.

I warmly recommend and encourage you doing this exercise once in a while, for your own sake.

It is not too late, hopefully.

'HTH,

P.S.
Of course, I hope this will be of interest for the OP, too.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

I agree

The Un Agenda 21 Sustainable Development, is a great book with plenty of reasons why ww should forget this, "American experiement", and move into a NWO, where we can leave behind the bad old USA...
(((((((((cyril))))))))))

Yes, there are books and magazines galore, still, one must consider the source of where the hatred for America, where the exposure is coming from, and why now...

I was speaking in generalities...

not any specific "truth" claimed by any one group or person...
Could be electronic voting fraud - Obama's birth certificate - MSM controlled propaganda - Agenda 21 - False Flags - Federal Reserve - NDAA - Torture - Bank manipulations - AIPAC - chemtrails - etc. etc. etc.
I was speaking of how a person feels when they first become "enlightened" on any topic....
I do not wish to debate "the truth" of any above listed issues, or any other ones - I was speaking in generalities of how it feels to discover the "truth" after you had been led to believe a lie - especially by someone or something you trusted
- it's a gut punch.
What woke you up Granger? How did it feel? Do you trust your government? Do you trust the MSM? WHO do YOU trust...Just wondering.

I trust Jesus

I can't always trust myself. I wish that wasn't the case, but feelings lie, and since I have feelings, sometimes they are wrong. I like to admit when I am wrong, because that's what helps wake me up.

I don't think trust is what government is about. Government is about force, I trust the government will employ force to get what it wants. I enjoy reading your posts bdunn..

Just because you are paranoid

Just because you are paranoid that people are out to get you doesn't mean that they aren't.

My old boss told me that, and he drove home different routes every day. Following him home was like an adventure (I lived 100' away), and would just follow him to see the bizarre routes he'd take to get to his house.

Blah.

hey everybody..

and I mean this as 'WE'...

The DailyPaul is a community of people. We are all devoutly individual and I respect everybody that shows the same.

This post was meant in humor.. to hopefully join two sides of the debate in a laugh.. hence the 'ONLY damn thing they are good at.' line and smiley face to boot.

While I get irritated with the direction our community goes, I still understand why. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it.. but I still respect it.

The DailyPaul represents a huge cross section of people. The binding force is our faith in Liberty. So while I may peacefully disagree with some conspiracy theories, or religious beliefs or anything really... I still have the utmost respect for everyone here.

Individualism is paramount. This collective defending everyone else's right to be an individual is why I will never leave.

I didn't expect this much of a reaction to a joke. Maybe a few comments.. a chuckle or two.. and a couple hard nosed folks shouting at me.

I appreciate the response.. After all.. it was only a joke.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

I don't know how you can find

I don't know how you can find something patently ridiculous and still respect it...

Is it some secret Zen technique?

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Just thought that might also be relevant to this thread

Just thought that might also be relevant to this thread/this post's title...

So, "to whom it may concern" as they say, just sharing how I first took my red pill (borrowed from a not-so-unrelated thread):

http://www.dailypaul.com/282742#comment-3048185

'HTH,

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Just Because I'm Paranoid...



...doesn't mean they're not out to get me!


Exercise Liberty!


America Rising.
The Constitution Stands.

"That the pen is mightier than the sword would be proven false; if I should take my sword and cut off the hand that holds the pen" - American Nomad

Isn't that Kurt Cobain's quote?

My favorite by William S. Burroughs:
“A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on.”

Pandacentricism will be our downfall.

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Logical, rational, wise.

Logical, rational, wise.

Q.E.D.

Who cares how they call them, anyway?

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

LOL good one!

LOL good one!

Very happy this post has been upvoted

There may be paranoid people here but they are not stupid.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

LOL... Are we the ones that

LOL... Are we the ones that feel the need to stick our hands into travelers pants in fear of bombs? Are we the ones who have to attack countries around the world because we fear terrorism? Are we the ones buying 1.5 billion rounds of ammo? Are we the ones passing patriot acts? Are we the ones passing CISPA? Are we the ones passing the NDAA? Are we the ones killing with drones? Are we the ones who need to regulate and take peoples arms because we fear mass shootings? Are we the ones who need to bug every phone and snoop into every email because we fear terrorist?

You have it wrong... We are not paranoid our government is!

defining hate & extremism...

...this is where it's going! Paranoia, No...I'm watching all the Fox News dribble, "domestic terrorists live among us: how will we spot them?" Radical Islam = Hate and Extremism;
I am warning all, believing Foxe's Book of Martyrs are accurate accounts: anti-Obama, anti-Republican spending, anti-abortion, anti-homosexual marriage, anti-mainstream theistic evolution millions of years;, questioning Oklahoma City or 9/11 it's ALL THE SAME; it's a mental disorder, but it's what our founders and framers and signers holding seminary degrees believed...

I'll keep pounding this drum; believers and non-believers better UNDERSTAND this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVl54MLE6sw

I vote up your post. Tremendously valuable to DP discourse!

I don't, however, think you present your ideas especially well. Nor do I think you do yourself any credit by such (no offense) loose assumptions and assertions.

I do, however, thank you sincerely, because in your earnest search for some insight from people regarding what you largely mistakenly view as their "paranoia" (perhaps implying that their concerns are unfounded / not supported by facts or accurate historical reference / not backed by reason), you present a great opportunity for solid explanations from those people. This is fantastic!

Quick point: We must always remember just how departmentalized and compartmentalized government really is. I think it is common for us around here to grumble about government in general, but I think most of us realize that it is not a huge entity with one brain. So really, more often than not one government hand doesn't know what the other does... so on and so forth (despite serious efforts and expense occasionally allocated by officeholders to rectify this sad state of affairs!).

Thus, your assumption that we all maintain that government is incompetent but then turn around and blame it (the big IT) for semi-complex conspiracies is somewhat misguided. I understand, of course, how and why this is the case: there seems to be a discrepancy if this is all taken literally, without sensitivity to nuance. [I'm doing poorly here, with this explanation! Sorry. Do you understand, though?] Case in point: Congress (government entity) is grossly inefficient, often jumbling up legislation, tangling themselves up in party politics instead of moving ahead, misrepresenting the wishes of their constituents, etc. = incompetent government operation. FBI (government entity) brilliantly executes a sting operation to catch some wily and particularly cruel human sex slave traffickers = competent government operation.

And of course many hardworking people are in government for the right reasons; sadly, though, the directors of their departments may be in it for politics or $$$ and little else. So Jane Doe, FBI computer whiz, mines databases to find patterns of expenditure, as directed by her supervisor. Unbeknownst to her, those that hand down policy to the FBI and who are privy to the information it uncovers are potentially using this information against a lawful, law-abiding citizen whom they view as a political threat.

Anyway... (Thanks for your patience.)

I hope you can learn from others' comments below, which by and large are succinct in delivery, thoughtful in content and consideration, and which tie key elements of the "big picture" together quite effectively. I know I always learn a lot from such posts and comments, and that is a huge reason why I love the DP and its community.

Keep posting! You favor us all rather well in so doing, and I can only hope your eyes are further opened to "the ways of the world" in which we all live.

What would the Founders do?

Thank you for the comment.

But if people can't understand what a joke or sarcasm is.. then thats cool too.

This was a short post. Not well thought out.. just something off the top of my head that made me giggle when I thought of it. It was meant to be a joke.. hence the smiley face at the end.

I had no idea this thread would take off the way it did.

The best parts of the freedom of speech are often the humor that comes along with it. Carlin, Pryor and Chapelle are the first names that come to my mind.

All three dealt with real social issues and put them in a light we could all laugh at. I wish our community would lighten up a little.. I honestly love this place. Its the first site I go to in the morning and I love contributing here.

The conspiracy stuff gets overwhelming sometimes. Thats the point of my joke...

No worries tho.. Im not quitting my day job.

Thanks again for the comment.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

We do need to lighten up (I know I do.) when possible!

It's tricky given the circumstances which seem to be unfolding with such rapidity these days, though. I hear ya. Didn't mean to sound snotty in my post.

You've been here far (like multiple times) longer than I, and I appreciate those posts of yours I have read during my humble, short presence.

Rattled though many may be at this post (to your surprise), it is good stuff!

What would the Founders do?

hahahaaa.

you rock buddy...

at least you see the trees for the forest.

We are all in this together and I appreciate your response. Im not here to make enemies but rally allies. The DailyPaul should be a place of tolerance and wisdom. Where we seek the truth and hold dear to our principles.

Thank you for taking a breath and understanding. Under the heat of so much criticism its nice to find a friend who understands.

We can beat the machine if we continue to unite others. Build our coalitions and remain steadfast to our principles. I have 100% faith in our convictions and principles. We have the power to change the world.

I honestly appreciate your comments. Thank you.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

Congress is not

Congress is not inefficient.... They have passed the NDAA, Patriot Act, working on Cispa now. They are very good at trading (with inside info). If you don't believe me just ask the folks down on K street how efficient congress operates.

They are only inefficient when it comes to protecting the Constitution.

I know this. Been bitterly aware of it for years.

I was being somewhat accommodating to the OP here, since most people think Congress is "ineffective" (While you and I know they merely *pretend* to be oftentimes.).

Gotta love the efficiency, too, that followed the Underwear Bomber incident: the previously tabled Patriot Act gets clawed back up off the table and pushed through... again. Plus all those fun nudie scanners ready for deployment!

What would the Founders do?

Well, actually...

many people have noted that the one thing the state is good at is taking more power.

Simple Facts and Plain Arguments
A common sense take on politics and current events.

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Follow the money...

he who has the gold makes the rules...

who controls the present, controls the past...

what else do you want?

Yes, the incompetent (likely not incompetent as someone else said) can be quite competent when there is something in it for them.

Not half as paranoid as the founders were

With all the verbiage they put in the constitution, like, "shall not be infringed" and "shall make no law", they started it! LOL

well, I don't agree with your foundational argument--

". . . the same government *we* have zero faith in accomplishing anything . . ."

Oh, I think this government has accomplished MUCH by way of giving in to the interests of huge corporations, becoming socialistic, encouraging oppression around the world, pulling off massive, destructive perpetual warfare, invading under cover hundreds of countries around the world and generally encouraging mass propaganda for all of the agendas of the huge corporations, 'private' groups of "planners" and its own perpetuation.

I think the government has been highly effective in destroying liberty and oppressing all who value personal responsibility. It's also done a good job of fostering social engineering and perpetuating educational systems that promote propaganda.

So, I don't agree with your premise.

The idea that the people in Washington who are 'duly' elected are bumblers . . .

is a cover for a group of people who appear bumbling, because they probably know very little of what is going on behind the scenes, but they are still playing their parts quite effectively--

paranoid? An overused word--

Suspicious? You bet your life I am suspicious. And *I* am not *we*.

*wink*

Now breathe.

:)

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--