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Why I believe Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev are innocent patsies.

Let me open with a little coincidence. Did anyone else notice that 4chan identified men near the bomb scene, before the bomb with a backpack, then after without the backpack. Then, the FBI produces photos of Dzhokar and Tamerlan and presents the exact same rationale, AND demands we not look at other photos. WHAT? Why are we so confident these are the only people involved? There were more than 2 bombs. It also means that when you or I try to discuss this with neighbors, they will think we are talking about these boys, not the men in gooniforms. Sure, just an oddity, but when I start piling the oddities up, they paint a pretty clear picture for me. Let me lay out a few more brush strokes, see what you see for yourself...

Does hypnosis even work? Oh yes. Hell yes. Without a doubt.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/mind_control/foia_mind_control/19...

The hypnotist at the comedy club will assure you that he CAN NOT make you do anything you would not normally do, and that is a lie. He may believe the lie, that is what the instructors will say in hypnosis training. However, anyone with a little hypnosis training and a little curiosity soon realizes that it is not true. The simple fact is, ANYONE can be hypnotized, and if the hypnotist is evil enough, they can make you do anything. For the record, I do not even try to hypnotize people, I try to educate them about the dangers of hypnosis, mass hypnosis in particular but today I want to focus on MK Ultra type hypnosis. You see, we are ALL ripe for the picking. If I caught you at the right moment, I could drop you off to la-la-land. How is the right moment created....?

Anyone feel overwhelmed these days? You've got 40,000 "secret numbers" you have to remember or you can't access your banking accounts, you emails, your voicemails... Then there is the stress at work, or the stress of unemployment, the ENDLESS bad news, family issues (good or bad, they weigh on the mind)... In the course I took, all data was called "information units." You flood a brain with "too much information" :) (they do love ritual mockery) and it starts to look for a solution, any solution, to start getting all that data processed. Someone with the very basic training I took knows what to look for in your eyes, your breath patterns, and if we catch you at the right moment, I can snap my fingers, touch you, and... nighty-night. I do NOT have to plant a suggestion beforehand as some will claim. I have to catch you at the right moment, that is all. Once you are under, you are utterly vulnerable.
Think I'm kidding?

http://youtu.be/oC9J6O6soHA

This video needs a LOT more views, don't you think?

OK, so why do I think this case is a government mind control project?
http://www.dailypaul.com/282640/mother-of-boston-bombing-sus...

http://www.dailypaul.com/282669/journalist-take-on-the-2nd-s...

It is time to find a way to bring JUSTICE for all, or there is no hope for liberty for any of us. This is out of control, they killed the hacker kid, killed Adam Lanza and smeared his name, destroyed James Holmes and continue to pharmaceuticly torture him... Then they use this all to get everyone to agree that the "mentally ill" should be disarmed. Well, the mentally ill are the ones with a military at their disposal, and we really need to take away their power. No violence, no threats, just stop using their FRNs. It is that easy and that hard. I'm open to better suggestions, but if we don't stop these maniacs people who love liberty are going to be set up and taken down one by one, and that includes YOU.

Thanks to dducks for reminding me of this: You don't need to be a hypnotist at all to gain total control of a person temporarily.

http://youtu.be/ToQ8PWYnu04



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Bump, for a reminder.

Bump, for a reminder.

bump for mrbengal

He was kind enough to point out that Nystrom himself allowed this post to stay up. He actually referenced it, saying that asking questions was fine with him. Thanks for the reminder, mrb.

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interesting videos...

Does the first video remind anybody else of certain TV evangelists from the prosperity movement?

Pretty compelling..

http://youtu.be/bjocGidSLJw

"One man with courage is a majority." ~ Andrew Jackson

Boston suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev seen walking to police car nake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC5o-UNplhQ

cops killed hi, obviously. My friend was watching this in the middle of the night, clearly it was him he said. This video is blurry but the one on TV was clear. Cops killed him.!!! Lawless nation!!!

bump--

I'm trying to watch The Noble Lie right now--

but I'm bumping this--

will bookmark--

if they were not innocent, there is a greater possibility that they wouldn't be dead and in critical condition--

I can't prove that, of course--

but if one is dead and the other is in critical condition, and they are the real culprits, why is everyone still upset?

Something is definitely not logical--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

The CIA has had over 50 years since MK Ultra

To develop and refine their techniques. Scary stuff.

Compartmentalized scopalamine acquisition by the CIA would go something like this:

CIA contracted controller arranges 'buy' in Columbia.
CIA contracted controller assigns CIA agent A to acquire drug.
CIA agent A transports drug to research facility.
CIA agent B adds drug to 'research' stockpile.
CIA contracted controller assigns CIA agent B to prepare an amount of scopalamine for destruction.
CIA contracted controller assigns CIA contractor agent to pick up scopalamine for 'disposal'.

This compartmentalizes the actual CIA employees so that they do not have direct knowledge of CIA activities within U.S. borders, nor any knowledge of scopalamine related activities beyond a chemical research facility.

That scopalamine could pass through any number of hands and yet only the contracted controller and contracted agent would have any idea of the actual nature of the activities.

That's why it took so long for the Watergate scandal to break - compartmentalization. For those who like to study such things, notice that none of the CIA agents spilled the beans, even when Nixon resigned.

Conspiracy theories that turn out to be true, like Watergate, give a good idea of how compartmentalization and the chain of command structures work within the White House and CIA.

You can buy scopolamine OVER THE COUNTER

It is commonly used in medicine and has been for hundreds of years. It is not some top secret drug. It turned out to be a terrible "truth serum," just like LSD.

The people ranting about about MK-Ultra and citing a sensational 30-min. Vice documentary as proof of a conspiracy theory should be embarrassed.

Really and what brand name is

Really and what brand name is it sold under and what does it claim to do?

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hawkieye seriously just do 5 minutes of actual research

Scopolamime is one of the first 15 drugs medical students learn about in pharmacology. It is a standard example of an anticholinergic and it has been used in medicine for well over 100 years.

It sold under the brand name Scopoderm for use for motion sickness.

MK ultra is a proven fact

And so is compartmentalization, and that spy agencies do that sort of thing.

The only conspiracy theory I was talking about was Watergate, which is proven historical fact.

What is the likelihood that government research facilities get their samples from the neighborhood pharmacy?

Honestly, did you get your high school diploma in a cracker jack box?

You seem halfway intelligent - try harder!

MK-Ultra ended 60 years ago in massive failure

You were talking about scopolamine, and the MK-Ultra and scopolamine accusations generally go hand in hand.

Good insult, though, very clever.

YOU IS STUPID JENIUS SHEEP CRACKER BOX DIPLOMA SHEEPLE SHILL

More questions about JFK library fire. Do they let people smoke

in there? Wouldn't a building like that have sprinklers and smoke detectors? http://i.imgur.com/vwmeCxl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SLQIAYy.jpg Very few photos of damage on line. They are all the same pictures.

April 15-RT- No conclusive evidence linking Boston JFK Library fire to Marathon blasts: Boston Police Commissioner Edward Davis now says the 4:30PM library incident was in all likelihood not related to the Marathon explosions. It has been described as a mechanical fire from an "incendiary device", rather than a blast.
http://rt.com/usa/library-blast-police-boston-914/

Boston Globe yesterday, April 19: Fire at JFK Library caused by discarded smoking material.
The fire at the JFK Presidential Library and Museum in Boston Monday was caused by careless disposal of smoking materials, city fire officials said.
“In light of what had just happened at the finish line — and the library is of course a high-profile place in Boston — it caused a lot of speculation,” Boston Fire Department spokesman Steve MacDonald said. “It took a while to get to the facts.”
The fire broke out in an HVAC system in a section of the complex that opened in 2011 and houses offices, a classroom, and some archival material, he said Monday. The building was evacuated. No injuries were reported.
The Globe previously reported that the fire caused some damage to the exterior of the building. It blackened the area of what appeared to be a side entrance, and some windows were shattered.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/jfk-fire-caused-...

Why do you say there were

Why do you say there were more than 2 bombs? Because the media said so? Has the media ever gotten anything wrong when reporting breaking news?

As to the photo of the track athlete and his coach. Look closely at the photo where he supposedly doesn't have his bag. His arms are stretched straight out in front of his knees and there is a large space between him and the person in front of him. It is entirely possible that he his holding the bag in front of himself. Why? I don't know because his shoulders are tired or he was getting out a camera or any number of other reasons.

But you of course believe Jeff Bauman was lying and he didn't see a guy in a black hat and sunglasses and he didn't get his legs blown off. I've also heard from others that you wouldn't never be conscience if that happened (false), that explosive wounds don't look like that (false), that blood isn't that red (false), that he would have bled to death (false, not with a fireball cauterizing his wound and a guy in a cowboy hat holding his artery closed).

Let's go through the conspiracy steps:
1. It's fake and they are actors.
2. They are pinning it on these two guys.
3. These guys work for the CIA/FBI
4. They were hypnotized into doing it.

What the hell is it?

The simplest answer is that these guys wanted to hurt people and they did. Evidence supports it, the evidence I've seen anyway. I don't watch the news. All I've done is look at photos and read statements people have made.

I'm open to seeing other evidence if you've got it. But so far everyone seems to be confusing evidence with conjecture and possibility.

Sure it's possible the government was involved in making this all happen, but give me some freaking evidence.

It doesn't matter what evidence there is you wouldn't believe it.

You want this to be a false flag / fact terror / who knows what, and you are sculpting the evidence to suit your own predetermined story.

I thought the track guys could have done it until I saw the other photos of the brothers, the black backpack, the younger brother leaving his bag on the ground near the boy who was killed, and hearing of Jeff Bauman's accusations.

Sometimes reality is hard to swallow but you can't blame everything on the government.

What you are doing is turning rational people off of the idea that false flags are even real. They are real, but you and others are crying wolf.

Nick Vogt is the man in the wheelchair

Why won't he make an appearance if he is not?? great publicity and he'd be famous too$$$$

What evidence do you have of

What evidence do you have of this?

I looked at the photos and they look like different people to me.

Right

No evidence whatsoever, just imaginations running wild here.

This one's for you, Fishy baby!

CBS Oct. 28, 1993: World Trade Ctr. Bombing was a FBI Inside Job! Yes, You read correctly: CBS!

Rare TV NEWS report about WTC bombing FBI Foreknowledge


http://youtu.be/D7AtLD-oWqc

RearNakedSmoke
Published on Oct 5, 2012

Mirror of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F1Y6cGRXEs

Allegations of FBI foreknowledge
In the course of the trial it was revealed that the FBI had an informant, a former Egyptian army officer named Emad A. Salem. Salem claims to have informed the FBI of the plot to bomb the towers as early as February 6, 1992. Salem's role as informant allowed the FBI to quickly pinpoint the conspirators out of the hundreds of possible suspects.

Salem, initially believing that this was to be a sting operation, claimed that the FBI's original plan was for Salem to supply the conspirators with a harmless powder instead of actual explosive to build their bomb, but that the FBI chose to use him for other purposes instead. [4] He secretly recorded hundreds of hours of telephone conversations with his FBI handlers; reported by Ralph Blumenthal in the New York Times, Oct. 28, 1993, secton A,Page 1.

Ralph Blumenthal @ New York Times' Archives: When NYT actually did investigative journalism

Oct. 27, 1993: Tapes in Bombing Plot Show Informer and F.B.I. at Odds

Oct. 28, 1993: Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast

Oct. 31, 1993: Bomb Informer's Tapes Give Rare Glimpse of F.B.I. Dealings

Background on the former FBI Informant and 1993 WTC Bombing FBI Inside Job Whistleblower, without which SOME of you, even here at DailyPaul, would still will be bitching "Show me the Evidence!": Emad Salem

** If you've never heard of/about/seen that CBS clip, NYT article, or Emad Salem, and yet continue to arrogantly, a-priori, condescendingly lecture others that there's no such thing as false flag, especially in the more recent years, you literally have zero clue, about any geopolitical matter.

Time to grow up, cowboy the f' up, and move beyond the Blue Pill; whenever ANY event/misfortune/act of mass violence that proceeds to be largely propagandized into the 24/7 'news' spin cycle with constantly changing narratives, missing witnesses, and blatant omissions, you actually are a Tin-Foil hat wearing pro-conspiracy theorist, if you DON'T assume govt & its corporatist intel network are guilty, until 100% proven innocent.

Why?

Would you give a rapist a box of condoms and a compiled list of addresses, of the most vulnerable single females in a 2 mile radius, in any given city in America?

Seriously, WHEN does the 'brand' Govt become synonymous with assaulters, kidnappers, torturers, pedophiles, rapists, and murderers?

WHEN?

How many more proven, documented, factual 'evidence' do you need?

"Bad apples," is the single biggest, statist mechanism protectionist myth-meme: ALL coercive systems, ie. governments, are human-command control systems precisely designed to nurture and 'fail upwards' the most degenerate control freak tyrants among the 3% of the human population, for whatever reason, end up genetically predisposed to being sociopathic & psychopathic.

However, observing the cycle of recent DP-comments on the Boston Massacre, glad that it filtered out who are/aren't still gulping down the Blue Pill here.

What is hilariously ironic is, some of you, as a de facto default position, almost NEVER believe any govt agency or MSM at their word, yet, somehow at a time/after such ghastly, potentially Bill of Rights changing event occur, when they should (and must) be scrutinized the most, you literally hang on almost every picture and word that FBI and MSM tell you to believe. Worse, get emotive and be fearful about the very things that they're telling you to get emotional and be frightened about?

WTF gives??

Frankly, lately, I've seen more anti-AJ/InfoWars hate, than actual intelligent questioning of the info coming out of FBI & MSM et al. Even in his worst moments, his info 80% of which are simply links to actual MSM headlines (Infowars is still much more of a daily news aggregator), are still a gazillion times more accurate, honest and a yotta-times more sincere than any MSM on its best most blatantly non-lying days (which would be akin to you discovering a non sucky cosmic blackhole in your living room).

Even after 8yrs of GWB regime, 5th year into oBUSHma's with TWO Ron Paul presidential cycles and numerous posts on factual account of past history of govt-sponsored false flag terrorism, Sen. Church Commission MKULTRA and COINTELPRO reveal, some here actually still delude that govt never successfully conducted 'mind controlled assassins?' Sirhan Sirhan ring a bell?

Ex-CIA Agent Opens Up About MKUltra During Interview

What one does not know the awareness of the existence of, cannot know, no?

Seriously, do some of you actually 'think' that bad guys actually wear black, Devil Horns, and a ginormous high-altitude satellite lens legible sign that says "Me! Me! Me! I'm the bad guy! I'm who you're looking for!" ???

PS. Their patterns don't change:

OMG! OMG! via Infowars:

Boston marathon bombs: Tamerlan Tsarnaev 'interviewed by FBI in 2011'
The FBI interviewed one of the Boston marathon bombing suspects in 2011 at the request of a foreign government, reports have claimed.

Sarah Titterton and agencies

3:59AM BST 20 Apr 2013

Officials told the Associated Press, Reuters and CNN that Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who died in a shootout with police outside Boston on Friday morning, was interviewed by federal officers.

The matter was closed when it did not produce any incriminating information.

One official told AP that the FBI shared its information with the foreign government. The official did not say what country made the request about Tamerlan Tsarnaev or why.

and... OMG! OMG! That 1993 CBS video clip? Also linked via Infowars! OMG!

and... OMG! OMG! Alex Jones has a smart entrepreneur friend Mike Adams, who agrees with AJ's sentiments! OMG!

Security theater moves to Act Two following arrest of Boston marathon bombing suspect

Saturday, April 20, 2013
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com

(NaturalNews) I'm trying to get a grip on the full spectacle of the police state theater we have all just witnessed in Boston. Where to begin?

Do we begin with the "lockdown" order that forced 400,000+ Bostonites to stay off the streets and hide in their homes while nobody admits it's actually martial law?

Do we begin with the militarized masses of armed-up police rolling down the streets of Boston in bomb-proof assault vehicles, all in the hunt for one teenager? Click here for astonishing pictures of martial law in Boston.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/039996_security_theater_Boston_ma...

PS 2. To all Alex Jones and InfoWars detractors, can any of you, actually, honestly claim that you as an individual, personally woke up, or at the least sew the seeds of skepticism vs. "Channel Normal," among MILLIONS of human souls around the world? Or, be in a self-initiated financially stable position with an entrepreneurial business infrastructure to support and grow what you need to do?

Seriously? Can you?

If you can do it better, please do.

But, I truly don't get all the hate sedentary keyboard jockeys bitching about him and his endeavors, which if you do dislike AJ, can always tune out, or even those posts and links here that cite his, if you don't want to partake in the discussion.

It's like do you have a news crew that can pursue issues you want to task them with, or themselves be individually inspired to cover?

No, really. Do you?

Please tell me.

Um, yeah. Just as I thought.

Now, git! Got bigger common enemies to fry, no?

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Does the United States have a

Does the United States have a new enemy?

This is the talking point on all MSM channels. They are really talking up having more wars. MSM is the #1 enemy of the American people.

Long write out for a person who is just anti-government to

a fault and paranoid?

Check this text sample - 'I believe the marathon bombers are innocent because I don't trust the government.'

See you could have summed up in one sentence.

Thank you

I was trying to make the same point and got marked down 11 times.

My faith in the DP is a bit restored since you got marked up 6 times.

Am I the only one who thinks

Am I the only one who thinks the man, standing against the wall, on the fed video, looks like a handler?

Watching that hypno movie now

Gotta say, it's really great so far. I laughed very hard when he says "this is a lever action rifle, such as every american child is issued with." HAHAHA!

Weren't there 3 bombs?

Any link or pictures to the one that was secured and safely detonated? Who set that one?

*Edit; found one...

http://www.latintimes.com/articles/2796/20130415/boston-mara...

There was a tweet in this article from a reporter about an officer over the scanner talking about not worrying about the noise, they are safely setting off another bomb. I would love to hear that recording, anyone good with this sort of thing?

*Edit 2

Fishy, need help finding thee recording!
http://www.sbnation.com/2013/4/15/4227858/boston-marathon-ex...

"indicated on the emergency personnel radio scanner at 3:53 p.m. ET that they would be conducting a controlled explosion on the 600 block of Boylston Street, near the Copley Square site of the original explosions that rocked the Boston Marathon earlier Monday afternoon."

No kidding!

http://www.dailypaul.com/282257/boston-bombing-culprits-foun...

I have noticed the same thing. Google search turns up stories assuring me it was just a coincidence, no bomb. Who said there was a bomb? Did the FBI tell them to say there was a bomb. There was no bomb. Stop looking at photos that you were told not to see.

http://rt.com/usa/library-blast-police-boston-914/

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i dont have facebook,

No doubt in my mind that

No doubt in my mind that rogue government uses any and all means of controlling people even to carrying out assassinations etc... Question is who are the people in government willing to carry out these evils in brainwashing others to do their dirty work. I would think very few who join the FBI etc. have any intention of doing things like this and join because the wrongly believe they would be doing some good in stopping crime etc...

Or perhaps they have this down to a science where they can mind control enough who join to carry out these things?...

This whole bombing things is to nice and neat of a package for me. They have their suspect other suspect is dead the people cheering with no evidence warrants etc. and that's rap now people can get back to their routines and forget all about this whole thing.

So what did they do while we are all distracted by this whole thing?

I have to admit I am a bit skeptical of the first video the Brown TV show and some of the things done there so easily. Like the guy who he shakes hands with and puts him to sleep immediately and the people not being able to get out of their seats etc. That looks too staged for TV for me to swallow. If so many people are really that easily susceptible to autosuggestion that's pretty scary...

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Everyone is that susceptible AT TIMES

Some people walk around stressed enough nearly all the time, most of us are only vulnerable under duress. Stage hypnotists bring the "duress" with them as part of the act - most people are quite stressed on stage. And they always sort out the "best" subjects for the show, if you are not easy enough to work on, you go back to your seat.

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Recent FBI framing case...

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2011/10/framing-steele-...

Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Framing Steele: A Case Study of Sovietized American "Justice"

"Give a man a gun, and he could rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he could rob the world."