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Why I believe Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev are innocent patsies.

Let me open with a little coincidence. Did anyone else notice that 4chan identified men near the bomb scene, before the bomb with a backpack, then after without the backpack. Then, the FBI produces photos of Dzhokar and Tamerlan and presents the exact same rationale, AND demands we not look at other photos. WHAT? Why are we so confident these are the only people involved? There were more than 2 bombs. It also means that when you or I try to discuss this with neighbors, they will think we are talking about these boys, not the men in gooniforms. Sure, just an oddity, but when I start piling the oddities up, they paint a pretty clear picture for me. Let me lay out a few more brush strokes, see what you see for yourself...

Does hypnosis even work? Oh yes. Hell yes. Without a doubt.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/mind_control/foia_mind_control/19...

The hypnotist at the comedy club will assure you that he CAN NOT make you do anything you would not normally do, and that is a lie. He may believe the lie, that is what the instructors will say in hypnosis training. However, anyone with a little hypnosis training and a little curiosity soon realizes that it is not true. The simple fact is, ANYONE can be hypnotized, and if the hypnotist is evil enough, they can make you do anything. For the record, I do not even try to hypnotize people, I try to educate them about the dangers of hypnosis, mass hypnosis in particular but today I want to focus on MK Ultra type hypnosis. You see, we are ALL ripe for the picking. If I caught you at the right moment, I could drop you off to la-la-land. How is the right moment created....?

Anyone feel overwhelmed these days? You've got 40,000 "secret numbers" you have to remember or you can't access your banking accounts, you emails, your voicemails... Then there is the stress at work, or the stress of unemployment, the ENDLESS bad news, family issues (good or bad, they weigh on the mind)... In the course I took, all data was called "information units." You flood a brain with "too much information" :) (they do love ritual mockery) and it starts to look for a solution, any solution, to start getting all that data processed. Someone with the very basic training I took knows what to look for in your eyes, your breath patterns, and if we catch you at the right moment, I can snap my fingers, touch you, and... nighty-night. I do NOT have to plant a suggestion beforehand as some will claim. I have to catch you at the right moment, that is all. Once you are under, you are utterly vulnerable.
Think I'm kidding?

http://youtu.be/oC9J6O6soHA

This video needs a LOT more views, don't you think?

OK, so why do I think this case is a government mind control project?
http://www.dailypaul.com/282640/mother-of-boston-bombing-sus...

http://www.dailypaul.com/282669/journalist-take-on-the-2nd-s...

It is time to find a way to bring JUSTICE for all, or there is no hope for liberty for any of us. This is out of control, they killed the hacker kid, killed Adam Lanza and smeared his name, destroyed James Holmes and continue to pharmaceuticly torture him... Then they use this all to get everyone to agree that the "mentally ill" should be disarmed. Well, the mentally ill are the ones with a military at their disposal, and we really need to take away their power. No violence, no threats, just stop using their FRNs. It is that easy and that hard. I'm open to better suggestions, but if we don't stop these maniacs people who love liberty are going to be set up and taken down one by one, and that includes YOU.

Thanks to dducks for reminding me of this: You don't need to be a hypnotist at all to gain total control of a person temporarily.

http://youtu.be/ToQ8PWYnu04

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Thanks so much

When we are about to loose forever 4th amendment rights, and descend even further into a police state, you are talking about . . .

HYPNOTIC MIND CONTROL ? ? ?

Seriously ? ? An American Citizen has been denied his right to an attorney. U.S. Senators are talking about denying his right to a trial.

And your talking about HYPNOSIS ? ? ? ?

Do you have any idea how much credibility is lost for our entire group of liberty supporters because of this kind of BS - and yes, what you are saying is complete BS - there is not a shred of evidence that this is possible.

I have NO problem with

"Theories"...but this stuff does not belong on the DP...Michael what say ye.

Unfortunately, it's featured in the "Originals" section

so apparently Michael is okay with it?

I just think it makes us all look like high-profile idiots.

OK - That's a little much. No need to go that far.

Look, we have over a dozen examples since 9/11 of the FBI/CIA training and "radicalizing" patsies to plant fake bombs. We know there were "unexploded" bombs. Is it not possible that the two brothers were duped and planted fake bombs while the "Craft" boys planted the real ones?

Now...normally the FBI picks people with very low mental abilities. So, how they rooked in a couple smart kids might be more in your area. Could also involve similar drugs to Lanza and the Colorado shooters.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Wrong.

They pick very bright people most of the time.
To you, and all those who insist I am wrong, PLEASE cite the case where the FBI (or CIA, or ATF) was not shown to have used patsies. I have cited several where patsies are known, shall I continue? Let me google that for you: "FBI patsies" search results. Enjoy.
https://www.google.com/search?q=fbi+patsies&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-...
Try your own using CIA.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Not for terror - You are imagining disagreement

No fishy, if you look at the recent "terror threats" that were "busted" by the FBI the last 8 years or so they have all been people of either low intelligence or people who had brains messed up by illegal drugs.

I agree with your patsy claim, not sure why you got so angry.

But, for mass destruction threats 9 times out of 10 the people are idiots or religious freaks.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Edgy, this thing pisses me off.

I agree they are usually lured in by something in them that already tends toward "idealism" over "reality." But they are almost always drugged, and before they were drugged they were much more "normal" and often quite bright academically. Kazcnski, Holmes, Lanza, these boys, all top students at one time.

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I think we are using different difinitions

I was looking at actual "terror" events, not school shootings or targeted bombings (Kazcinski), there is a difference. I was thinking about all the fake bombs that were miraculously stopped by the FBI who planted them.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

OK

You are right about that, "The Underwear bomber" was definitely no rocket surgeon.
;)

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You do not even need to be trained in mind control

Ever heard of Devil's Breathe?

http://youtu.be/ToQ8PWYnu04

Scoplamine.

I have not watched it yet, but I'll bet it is the active ingredient. Pharma has a nice, refined version... and yes, thanks for bringing this up.

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I thought the exact same thing.

The film claims the US Govt. used it during the sixties (MKULTRA, surely). So they have been synthesizing, experimenting, and tweaking for over fifty years. Mengele used it during the Nazi fiasco too.

Consider the "side effects" of the popular sleep aid

"Concerns have been raised about the safety of Ambien (zolpidem tartrate), the anti-insomnia drug manufactured by Sanofi-Aventis. Reports are surfacing people taking Ambien are experiencing sleepwalking, memory loss / amnesia, binge eating while sleeping, having sex while sleeping, and other disturbing side effects. Some of the most serious side effects involve Ambien users having auto accidents the day after taking Ambien due to daytime sleepiness and the lingering feeling of being drugged. One disturbing report concerned a physician at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston who could not recall advising residents on rounds the morning after taking Ambien."
http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/Ambien

Sleep driving.... That is legal not only legal but the standard of care. Giving them a nice cup of the wrong herbal tea is a felony.

All this fuss about the zombies.... and so few willing to understand how many ways they have to make us zombies.

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im not saying this is the

im not saying this is the case, but if it were, and i were a diabolical evil genius, i'd only risk giving this to a select few of the public, minimum risk of exposure, enough people though, so that the rest of the unaffected sheep follow the semi large body of herded sheep

in this self identified out there analogy, the dog authorities would make sure the unaffected are doing what their suppose to do, under the herders watchfull eye.....dont know if the buck stops there or if there is a king in the land

Yeah, i know, WEIRDOOOO analogy, but then again so is a terrorist on every corner......
blah blah..your twisting words..blah blah....security

This is why they HAD to deny multiple undetonated bombs

Because no one would believe 2 guys carried 9 pressure cookers in 2 backpacks.

Does the name Oswald mean

Does the name Oswald mean anything?

LOL

For you, they are ALWAYS innocent patsies.

As if the government is a one trick pony, and all big crimes are that pony.

You are so right..... Nothing

You are so right..... Nothing ever gets debunked, it's always a conspiracy...

A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves.

Always a conspiracy

Always, always, always! Thinking of other possibilities means you are obviously a sheeple who can't think!

I hope that's sarcasm I

I hope that's sarcasm I smell.....

A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves.

Yes, sarcasm

.

Never can tell around

Never can tell around here....

A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves.

LOL!

So true.

More pony tricks

USS Liberty
Gulf of Tonkin
Lustiania
Peral Harbor
Bay of Pigs
Jonestown
Guantanimo
Abu Ghraib

Oh, yeah. Hilarious.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

That's right

Once a pony trick, ALWAYS a pony trick! Remember kids, no big crime exists outside the sphere of U.S. government!

*eye roll*

PLEASE show me the exception to this disgusting rule.

Randy Weaver, David Koresh, Timothy McVeigh, the Unibomber, the Underwear Bomber, the Portland Mall bomber.... Stop me if you see a pattern....
Show me the one where the government was not involved and I will concede that the government is not responsible for all of them, JUST MOST OF THEM.
LOL indeed. It ain't funny.

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You said "innocent patsies"

McVeigh wasn't *innocent* any way you cut it.

You think the Unibomber was innocent too??

I disagree that all these people seem innocent (except Randy Weaver, who isn't accused of any act of terrorism.) Occasionally there has seemed to be government involvement, yes, but did anyone really FORCE them to go along with it? Or are you saying these guys were totally framed and it's all a lie?

Since you bring up McVeigh,

Since you bring up McVeigh, maybe you can explain how it was that he was pulled-over 50 miles away from the Murrah building in less than 20 minutes time from when the bomb went off. For, McVeigh to have travelled 50 miles in 20 minutes would mean that he(McVeigh) must have been travelling at 150 miles per hour with no stops or slow-downs at all. The fact that he -supposedly- travelled 50 miles in under 20 minutes means that he(McVeigh) would have needed to be travelling at a rate of speed in excess of 150 miles per hour without any stops or slowdowns whatsoever. Taking the stops and slowdowns one would encounter, travelling on nearly all roads -especially since he needed to get out of a city, he(McVeigh) would have had to have been travelling -when able to- in excess of 200 miles per hour. Do you really think that is possible? Do you really think that happened? If so, I would like to read your explanation.

Is it possible he left before

Is it possible he left before the explosion?

A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves.

My mistake, I didn't realize

My mistake, I didn't realize it until I read your comment. I think I wrote a combination of two different sentences I was thinking about. I meant that it was nearly 20 minutes from the time the FBI say that he(McVeigh) planted the bomb.