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To the Minions of Alex Jones

Are there any terrorists in the world or is every single act of terrorism a plot by the New World Order?

And, if there are no terrorists, then how can any of you be a Ron Paul fan when Ron Paul believes that 9-11 was a terrorist attack. Does anybody remember when Ron Paul took on Rudy Giuliani by saying 9-11 was a derivative of our foreign policy? Kind of proves that he doesn't believe Dick Cheney did it, doesn't it?

That being said, I ask the question again. Are there any terrorists out there?

Are Ron Paul and the rest of us still "sleeping?"



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Just an idea since I happen to strive keeping my memory function

Well, "terrorist" has proven to be a very convenient noun for tyrants' policies, as shown throughout 20th century History.

Oh, wait... Ever since the 18th century, actually:

Granted, "terrorists" wasn't quite the hype yet - "rebels" was. As deemed by the "Committee of Public Safety". It was for "safety" that, according to the committee, the "rebels" needed to be physically eliminated, by the tons - including the women, elders, and children. All across that entire western region of France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_the_Vend%C3%A9e#The_Repu...

"On 1 August 1793, the Committee of Public Safety ordered General Jean-Baptiste Carrier to carry out a "pacification" of the region by complete physical destruction. These orders were not carried out immediately, but a steady stream of demands for total destruction persisted. Under orders from the Committee of Public Safety in February 1794, the Republican forces launched their final "pacification" effort: twelve columns, the colonnes infernales ("infernal columns") under Louis Marie Turreau, marched through the Vendée.[...]With this came formal orders for forced evacuation; also, a 'scorched earth' policy was initiated: farms were destroyed, crops and forests burned and villages razed. There were many reported atrocities and a campaign of mass killing universally targeted at residents of the Vendée regardless of combatant status, political affiliation, age or gender. From January to May 1794, 20,000 to 50,000 vendeans civilians were massacred by the Infernal columns of the general Louis Marie Turreau.[...]"

So much for "the French Revolution", right?

Once hijacked by murderers at the head of a government which promised "change" (well, indeed!) and to care for the "safety" of all, then "revolution" can lose a hell of a lot of positivity, if one asks me. Can't it, dear Americans?

One may choose to have short memory. I do not. Not about my own country, anyway.

Sure : feel free to let yours, the USA, and her People, go in whichever direction it can... or deserve. It's yours, first and foremost.

As Ron Paul put it and explained it : the People only gets the government they want, eventually.

Haven't we heard the compound noun "domestic terrorist", also on some media outlets in the U.S., esp. MSM, lately? Or is it a figment of my imagination?

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/16/boston-marathon-...

Thus : just sharing about a tangentially related topic, not too far fetched I'd say, with troubling linguistic pattern similarities, don't you think?

"CPS" vs. "DHS", "rebels" vs. "domestic** terrorists" for two linguistic bits worth of note, and separated by "just" 220 years.

(** an adjective that I noticed sneaking in, lately, more or less inconspicuously, albeit more and more frequently... just a coincidence?)

So, back to more contemporary affairs, ask yourself : how come "terrorist" has had such a high frequency of use in this country since 9/11, on either side of the argument, but "tyrant" not so much, for people pondering about serious matters?

I'd argue it might be a good time to try have a look just a little bit beyond the tip of our nose, for a change.

But sure, just an idea.

YMMV.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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only 10 more!!! Lets go Alex Jones fanatics and followers. Only a few more down votes!!

What's the all time most down voted post?

I hope your enjoying your 15 minutes fame.

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"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

Real Nice

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How about 15 minutes of

How about 15 minutes of flame?

Good Question

It's actually a thought-provoking question. Believe it or not, there are a number of Jones' followers who will simply not accept that there is even such thing as a real terrorist. This coming from a man who continues to push the claim that Pepsi contains aborted babies, a ridiculous falsehood that has been repeatedly disproven. There can't be anything less than a mental health issue for those who would continue to accept the words of a known liar as fact. Besides, we all know it's the government who is behind the babies in the Pepsi anyway.

Not even Alex himself believes the crap he spews.

He clearly just trolls for the sole purpose of getting pageviews and selling his prepper gear. I'm really embarrassed for anyone who's naive enough to fall for his schtick. How many false flag predictions that never happen does he have to make before people on here stop giving him credibility?

I don't play, I commission the league.

LA Times cartoon

They have a cartoon of AJ as a rat crawling out of the sewer. There's also a poll, "Are Alex Jones' conspiracy theories beyond the pale?"

Results so far are 54% to 46% Yes.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt...

Some great comments, well worth reading.

so it's nearly 50/50 from a

so it's nearly 50/50 from a Cal. liberal rag media poll? Maybe they should have the poll in Dallas next.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

The data is always more important than the source!

AJ provides a lot of good data. He also provide it consistently and free of charge. All data must be researched to assertion it's accuracy.

If you reject the data because of the source your a fool in the same way anyone who instinctively trusts the data because it's provided by the MSM.

I for one really appreciate the service AJ provides. I for one, wish we had a thousand more voices sharing liberty minded data with the same level of dedication.

"A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote to keep things the same", Buckminster Fuller..
A choice for liberty is always a choice for liberty.

Except that, the data is

Except that, the data is usually false or misleading, and Jones charges an access fee to watch his nightly news program. Doesn't seem like much of a value to me.

I wonder how many times the

I wonder how many times the PTB have changed or delayed the 'storyline' after AJ dropped a truth bomb into the airwaves?

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

When you're looking at data...

...ALWAYS consider the source.

Just as in health research studies -- dietary, medications, etc. -- ALWAYS look at who pays for the so-called "data." In the same way, Alex Jones makes his living off conspiracy theories; therefore, he'll always have a conspiracy angle to every big story.

Gotta be more specific.

Does the word "terrorist" always refer to a someone who commits terrifying acts in some religious or ideological cause? I think it should include someone who commits these acts because he thinks it will prove advantageous to him, especially if it helps him consolidate power. In that case, the New World Oder, International Bankers, or even a power-hungry, rogue, pro-police-state element within our own government would be terrorist if they pull off operations that terrorize the public and thereby make them more receptive to the aims of those responsible. In that sense I think your question needs to be re-stated.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

No

It doesn't. Answer the question with a dictionary. You're outsmarting yourself.

Pot

Kettle

Black

Cliche

Guilty

You

It's your

dime.

That is a good question

And the answer is yes, most people, even those here are still sleeping, although we are waking up.

Alex Jones does make woken up people look like crazies though, because most people that are enlightened don't act like him...he just doesn't seem very intelligent. It is great to be a fighter for freedom, but that doesn't mean punching and threatening and screaming at those who disagree with you.

As for Ron Paul, maybe he knows more than he lets on, and can't say anything, but maybe he doesn't. Ron Paul still thinks there can be such a thing as "good" government.... or maybe he doesn't, maybe just less bad government.

I wonder what Ron Paul would say about "All Wars Are Bankers Wars" by Michael Rivero. Then I wonder what he would say about the amazing videos over at LarkenRose.com

All Wars Are Bankers Wars

Impossible. Probability would suggest that there was, at least, a few, in the history of the world, that had nothing to do with a bank.

Sounds like a title meant to sell books to stupid people who are paranoid about the banking system.

Probability?

How about historical fact? To lump every supporter of truth in with Alex Jones is a grave logical fallacy (specifically the ever-pervasive red herring) which shows your deficit of knowledge of classical liberalism and the systematic critical thinking that the liberal arts of the Trivium and Quadrivium have provided to humanity for centuries.

Are you honestly trying to argue against documented, largely admitted facts of American false flag events? Do me a favor and give me your supposed justification for the following, and I'll give you a history lesson.

The sinking of the USS Maine (Spanish-American War)
The sinking of the RMS Lusitania (WWI)
Foreknowledge of the Attack of Pearl Harbor (WWII)
Funding of the Nazi Regime by American Banks and Industry
Funding of the Bolshevik Revolution by American Banks and Industry (Cold War)
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident (Vietnam)
The OVERT imperialism of undeclared wars in Laos and Cambodia
The Gulf War
The ever-pervasive War on "Terror"

That's virtually every major American conflict of the past 115 years, barring the Korean war, of which the United States government is also complicit, though not overtly. It also excludes American proxy wars, which is for your own sake, because they're utterly indefensible. Please, attempt to prove otherwise with documented fact, lest you admit ignorance.

"The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else."
-Frederic Bastiat
www.cerebralindustrialcomplex.com

No

Read my post and quit extrapolating information that does not exist. All I said was, of all the wars ever fought, they weren't all caused by banks. That's it, nothing more.

And not all of "false-flag operations" are historical facts. They are opinions, some worth more than others.

Seriously, talk seeing what you want to see.

Your response

shows your intellectual worth: Devoid of substantive evidence supporting your claim.

Leaked and declassified Government documents relating to the Gulf of Tonkin incident are not opinions. The private writings of Edward M. House and Woodrow Wilson on the sinking of the Lusitania are not opinions. The prosecution of US banks under the Trading With the Enemy act in World War II is not an opinion. The works of the Hoover Institute of Stanford's Antony Sutton are not opinions, nor are the writings of Georgetown Professor Carrol Quigley.

They're quantitatively factual works implicating the fascist cabal of bankers, the military industrial complex, and governments in virtually every war in American history.

The fecal matter you're intent on spouting is the only opinion to be seen here.

"The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else."
-Frederic Bastiat
www.cerebralindustrialcomplex.com

Dr. Antony Sutton's books

on Wall Street contain all the facts that show how involved bankers are with war. He includes as his sources receipts, state department cables, etc.

They are available online for free:

Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution
Wall Street and FDR
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler

He also wrote a scholarly series about the transfer of technology to the Soviet Union. A member of the Hoover Institute, he would not compromise his scholarship to keep his position. No one has thus far debunked his work, it is just ignored because the implications would rock the boat.

Yeah AJ with a bullhorn

Yeah AJ with a bullhorn yelling at people that they're scum is not a positive thing.

I don't know what to think about AJ. One thing to consider is that they killed Bill Cooper, but not AJ. That makes it seem that one was a threat to the establishment and the other is not.

That said, I found great info on AJ's sites when there wasn't much else out there.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

Who's "they"?

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The establishment.

The establishment.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

And...

That's not vague to you?