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"Amazing New Details:" Police Chief Describes How Younger Brother Killed Older Brother!

The police chief, Edward Deveau, describes how cops nearly apprehended the older suspect, and were placing handcuffs on him in the middle of the street Thursday night, when the younger suspect came at officers in a carjacked SUV. The cops were able "to dive out of the way," and the younger suspect then continued to drive directly over his brother and dragging him through the street. That's how the older suspect died, according to the police chief.




There you have it (sarc).

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Something Doesnt add up

Now I haven't had much time to follow every detail of this, but again, with hardly any digging things start to fall apart on this. So correct me if I am wrong.

Several people have already pointed out other questions I have but here is the main one.
Supposedly this guy (the second and I think older suspect) after being arrested was trached because 'he shot himself in the neck'. Now again this is what I have heard and followed so far on the story.

Assuming this is true then when did he shoot himself in the neck? This guy just said that they negotiated with him for 20 min. So if he had been shot before the negotiations started how was he talking? While he didn't give any exact words that were said, the cop stated that limited discussion was taking place. I take that to mean the guy was saying something back, otherwise why would you spend 20 minutes on negotiations. And since there was no gun fire during or after negotiations, and he was immediately detained once he exited the boat and showed he was unarmed, he couldn't have done it.

So how do you go from having a guy that survived a whole day with supposed wounds from a gun battle then ran away and evaded what has to be the largest police task force assembled to date all out looking for him and him alone, then has another short shoot out and 20 minutes of negotiation, before exiting the boat under his own power to a guy that needs immediate medical attention and a trech within 5 minutes.

LIES!!!! COPS KILLED HIM!!!! Boston suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev se

Boston suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev seen walking to police car naked and handcuffed


Over on the Lew Rockwell blog

is a post called Could the Boston Cops be Lying? Surely not! It links to a radio show where a woman who was an eyewitness (from a window) to the killing of the older brother was interviewed. She said that the cops ran over him and then shot him up.

Link Please?

Link Please?

LRC article link, Witness interview, other examples+commentary

Vox Populi Lobotomy: Why @ This Juncture, NOT assuming Govt is Guilty Until Proven 100% Innocent, is Naive

Courtesy of LewRockwell.com:

Could the Cops Be Lying in Boston? Surely Not!

Posted by Travis Holte on April 21, 2013 08:02 AM

During the occupation of Boston it was widely reported that the bombing suspects had robbed a 7/11. That turned out to be false. The robbery was perpetrated by others. That's right; with a massive police state presence, criminals were undeterred. But how convenient for officials to let the story float for nearly a day?

It's looking like that is not the only whopper coming from officials (shocking, I know). Police Chief Wiggum has been providing all sorts of details throughout the affair and since. Here he goes into great detail about the “shootout” in the early hours of Friday morning. According to Wiggum, the older brother all of a sudden decided to come out from behind cover and walk right up to the cops, unloading his gun in the process. When he ran out of ammunition, says Wiggum, one of the heroes in blue tackled him. As officers were handcuffing him, Wiggum explains, his younger brother decided to charge them with the stolen SUV. The donut eaters were able to leap away just in time, leaving the older brother not only to be run over but dragged down the street as the younger suspect hightailed it out of there.

This all happened after what Wiggum describes as a 5-10 minute gun battle. So how did the remaining suspect elude the cops? Was there no police helicopter? Did someone at the top want him to get away?

One thing is for sure, Wiggum's story is completely contradicted by an eye-witness. She says the cops ran over the older brother, and then, in what seemed to be retaliation, filled him full of lead.

The '7-11 Robbery' that supposedly the alleged bombers patsies committed?

Eh! NOT! Never happened: 7-Eleven robbery not related to Boston bombing suspects


WITNESS: Nope, the suspect did NOT run over his own brother. The Cops did.

Linda calls in to describe the scene on Dexter St in Watertown

Fri, 19 Apr 2013

Linda explains how the shootout transpired in Watertown during the early morning hours. She saw the first suspect mortally wounded and police beginning the manhunt for the second suspect.

Who you gonna believe at this point?

Your fellow citizenry, your own research via publicly available info, and assessing witness commentaries, 'news', spin, documented facts, historical geopolitical analyses by others, and via your own individual discernment skills?

Or, an institutional guild of tax-leechin' political police & dutiful private Praetorian Guards for the Ruling Class, who have a VERY LENGTHY track record and factually verifiable history of committing crimes, whom in fact have an institutional incentive TO continue to lie, steal, cheat, entrap and murder?

Wonders never cease: it's hilarious that the 'conspiracy theorist' label gets thrown around vs. the rightfully sane skeptics, who are simply applying current scrutiny into State/corporatist actors based on factual history, vs. gullible, naive, delusional statists who are apparently suffering from generational Stockholm Syndrome and almost Pavlovianly believe everything and anything that corporatist govt goonsquads & cheerleaders print, play, or say??

Baghdad Bob, the Boston Edition:


The REAL sick, Cosmically ironic joke, is the fact that most Americans don't realize that they're essentially watching the same propaganda, on their own TV.

A Cop's Personal Guide to Lying

“Deception during interrogations to coerce a confession — that’s just good police work — and the entire enterprise of undercover work is a complex, multi-layered deception. There are also lies justified by investigative necessity, and conduct intended to deceive that is not malicious in nature.”

Why Cops Lie UNDER Oath:


Rebuttal from a Cop site: http://www.policeone.com/patrol-issues/articles/6177608-Do-p...

*** Again, I would like to ask: WHEN, does the 'brand' Govt become synonymous with a guild of liars, assaulters, kidnappers, pedophiles, torturers, rapists, and murderers??

How many more factually verifiable history does a 'sane' person need see more, before accepting nothing they say at face value??

Isn't it about time, that one absolutely learns to discern incompetence and malice? That just because govt on the most part is incompetent, does not mean that there are elements of it that are not exceedingly good at setting up and destroying things, which by its nature are MUCH EASIER to do, than building or creating something worthy, lasting or beautiful?

Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp for the human race?

April 15th was another in a long line of Govt Failure Day, regardless of whether the Boston Massacre was a malicious false flag (inside job, or compartmentalized nudging cluless assets/patsies along the way, or simply letting an event happen on purpose), organic or real terrorism, or incompetence.

The only thing that matters now is, what rights will they infringe, using this event?

Will the American citizenry continue to allow their govt SERVANTS to expand the infringement on more of their rights, coming out of this current 'crisis,' or not??

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul


..according to my friends who are local police, the younger brother never ran over the older brother. I was told he got out of his car, fell to his knees and blew himself up.

Also, how does the Chief of Police not know (by the day after) if there were any guns or explosives in the boat? It wasn't that big of a boat.

And another thing.... there was a murder in Waltham 2 years ago, that involved 3 victims, brutally killed, decapitated and covered in marijuana. The case has never been solved. Local police said there was very little evidence, and it looked like a mafia hit from people outside of the country. Turns out, one of the victims was the "best friend" of the 26 year old marathon alleged bomber.

blitzer used to work for AIPIC i think

strange thing...

there are photos of the younger brother getting off the boat without assistance and he seems uninjured.

now he is the hospital fighting for his life - all the while under the care of ISRAELI doctors... i guess American doctors were too busy or something.


Notice how Blitzer keeps

Notice how Blitzer keeps interrupting this guy to tell him what to say next.


doctor who examined 26 year old corpse

says he died of multiple gun shot wounds (more than he could count) and shrapnel wounds.



Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

No it doesn't

I wanna know that guys name and hear from him for sure, but that happened before the confrontation where the older brother was killed and the younger one got away.

"Another man in Watertown was taken by police and handcuffed. He was naked at the time of his arrest. This man was not believed to be either of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects, and no reports offered his name or connection to anything else occurring."


I agree it is fishy how they have went completely silent on this for some reason, but I do not agree that it "proves" they are lying.

Haven't seen any tears

Shouldn't that be expected? Or am I too old fashioned?

You're not old fashioned

just plain old Astute Observer...

good catch... it's true, there are no tears.

from shock, horror, pain... or something of that nature!

So tell me

Do you think it is not Jeff Bauman jr? is that what you are claiming, that it was an actor who already had amputated legs?

If that's the case, then what happens to the actor's real life? Did he just agree to no more be who he was and act like he's Jeff Bauman for the rest of his life? And I guess then his family agreed to just keep quiet and pretend he disappeared? And how does Jeff Bauman have a few years old facebook page, a family, friends, coworkers, people who went to school with him and grew up with him? Are they all actors too? You think all the pics of him before are faked? And what about the 14 other people they say had to have limbs amputated? Are they 14 other amputee actors as well? Did they get actors to play all their friends and families as well, complete with fake pictures of them growing up and everything? How did they get all those people make-up'd so real, with blood everywhere and shredded clothes immediately after the bomb went off without anybody seeing?

Can you honestly not see the gaping wholes in this narrative?

i don't have the funds to track Jeff

simply put... i don't have the funds to carry out a in-depth investigation into Jeff's history or his future.

the bit about Jeff is just one of thousands of bits that have to be sorted through.

you want me to make a conclusion about the whole event, based on just one tiny segment of the whole event. I won't.

i hope you understand that.

If Jeff really did lose his legs, I wish him a speedy recovery and a healthy life from here on in, however if Jeff took part in a deadly hoax then he's a liar and ought to be brought up on charges of some sort.


I never said you had to make a conclusion about the whole event, based on any segment, quite the opposite. I am pointing out the fact that if it were just actors, it would be easy to prove. It is not something that can be made up and hidden forever. There are 14 people who are either missing limbs they had before now or not.

Am I wrong? Can you explain how it could possibly work if it was all an act with actors? Let's hear it.

I'm Not Sure...

what to think about the authenticity of the man's injury (see thread just below). There are some curious things/points raised by individuals who purport to have experience and the photography does have a number of anomalies with people and their positions. One of the things I noticed on the woman labeled "red haired" in one of the photos is that she was in a completely different place. She clearly moved and was lying on the concrete in both places. I remembered her b/c she has a distinctive logo on her jacket/top ... a blue and white circle ...

...well..turns out that it's a "Team Stork" logo. Now Jeff Bauman, the guy in the wheelchair, has a fundraiser page showing a photo of him advertising Team Stork. (I am guessing it was his girlfriend who was running for team stork...the girlfriend he was waiting on to cross the finish line). Here's the funraiser page photo: http://www.gofundme.com/BucksforBauman

But when you check the Team Stork facebook page, there is absolutely no mention of Jeff. On the contrary, they have a blurb saying that all their runners and families are safe...no one hurt. ??? One could speculate that Team Stork just didn't know who the hell Jeff is, but it's odd to me that there is this woman with the Team Stork logo on her apparel right next to Jeff at the scene -- plus he is so famous now...if he and/or his girlfriend are supporting and running for Team Stork (as the fundraiser photo clearly indicates), why on earth would the Team Stork FB not at LEAST mention it?

Well...anyway. So much ugliness. For what? I wish I knew.

Crisis Actors preparing double amputee ACTOR!

Posted by a medical professional with experience in Trauma injuries!

Frame by Frame analysis of Crisis Actors preparing double amputee ACTOR - within seconds of the explosion then giving hand signs to camera crew.


This is incredible! It ought to have a post of its own.

The article is well written along with high resolution photos!



I work with and analyze blood every day at my job

I know what it looks like from as soon as it comes out of the body to old and degraded. The blood in the photos is not the color of blood. I don't know if the photos have been doctored to enhance the color or what.
This is gross, but the only kind of blood that is that bright of a red is blood in the stools or abnormal uterine bleeding and is the same color of the discarded bottle of fake blood in the lower right hand corner of one of the pictures on your first link.

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that's not a fake blood bottle, stop confusing the gullible

Find the blood bottle that matches this image:

It's an Activate vitamin water bottle.

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

Just wait...

Someone will say it's fake blood disguised as vitamin water, and that the burden of proof is on you to prove it isn't.

Lol, I hope I'm not giving them any ideas.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com

"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

the Daily Paul

has jumped the shark

thanks for your input

anyone with experience in trauma injuries ought to contribute information...


I was waiting for this! I'm sooo into the Nick Vogt thing. Not sure if it is possible to force any investigation or resolution on it, but it is just asinine that a guy in this condition would be capable of even sitting up in a chair. They just went too far and with a freshman crisis actor. If you can even call him an actor, ehem... Waiting for Jef's next opperation where they couldn't save his upper legs and of course ... he died, also , ultimately.

WOW, not again!

When you copy/paste to enlarge....you see more clearly.


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is that author claiming they were removed purposefully for this event?


Come on.

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

The author is not suggesting

The author is not suggesting - rather, he is pointing to anomalies given the circumstances.

he's got a point.... two legs ripped off - where's the blood?

It's still in the victim's body given his complexion and behavior after the trauma.

why would the blood be in his body when there are two huge ruptures in his body.

Our family friend, cut a bit of his thigh with a saw rupturing a main artery or something. One leg only.

His wife told us later, there was blood skirting everywhere and his life was in danger... he would have died if he had not received immediate medical attention.

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The author is absolutely suggesting it was faked.

These are actors. This is staged

is what that guy is claiming, not "just pointing out anomalies". Don't mince words.

The remains of his legs were above his heart; that reduces blood flow to that area. Not enough to cease an artery, no, but surely much blood was already lost. He became very ghost-like very quickly, as all later pictures showed, as he righted himself on the wheelchair and was wheeled to immediate attention. The lady in front of him was likely removed first, quickly, to get to him better. It was a chaotic event.

These people have lives, you can find them, and their families. All that is not fake. It need not be faked. You underestimate the extent predators are willing to go. Monstrous forces do not care whether innocent blood is spilt. You are thinking much too kindly of them.

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

To kill or not to kill - thats the question

If you believe the press is free and would snoop in your operation and instantly would disclose any of your faked victims, real killings would be the strategic best choice. If you on the other hand believe the press is not free, and the news reporters on national news are as controlled as fighter pilots, faking it would be better.

You don't have to get involved in a conspiracy to murder with no Statute of Limitations. Would be easier to recruit people to the operations without real killings. The operation management would expose themselves less to blackmail. You would not have to mess with a real murder investigation. Don't have to fight angry victims family members in court, that would never let it go. Better control on the operation. Make as many victims as you need and could rewrite the story if necessary. The whole operation could be designed as a First Amendment protected free speech exercise to protect the involved media crew, and formally just a drill to protect the agents in the Government (or something).

Real or fake victims isn't important at all. But the REPORTING is. Almost everyone will believe the REPORTED story anyway, even if it is ridiculous faked. A bad soap opera will do. I Promise.