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Please don't use the word "Proof," or make a statement that sounds like you have some if you don't have any real evidence.

Look I am just as skeptical as the next guy, and I am very interested to find out the truth. Its just hard with so many conflicting reports, all sporting the Proof tag.




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Here is a real idea

If we're all truly libertarians, and also not just full of BS when it comes conspiracy theories, why don't we all chip in to hire some real investigators?

Ron Paul - Intellectual hero

I have incontrovertable proof of an interviewer called

Anderson Pooper a little known journalist who mysteriously disappeared right after this secret interview with Smudge Pot.

http://longtermstoragefood.com/smudgeIlluminatiSoftware.ogg

The real question now is WHERE IS ANDERSON POOPER?

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Proof!

I may have proof that using the word PROOF in a tag line will gather more clicks. Look at how upset people get when they keep getting fooled by that sneaky headliner!

I don't appreciate it as much as the next guy, but if their marketing works, what gives them any reason to stop doing it?

It comes down to the consumer learning how to avoid it, or someone educating the public to the point that it dies out as a device altogether. Considering the importance of this weighed against literally anything else you may want to accomplish, I'd go with the learn how to avoid it crowd.

People just need to learn how to register these posts like they do when they see an ad that tells you that you can double your income or the size of your....

Yes. One piece of

Yes. One piece of circumstantial evidence is not proof and I'm tired of exaggerated headlines.

i have a few more to add (re videos)

"MUST SEE!": My ass. Not only did I not need to see 99.9% of these so-called "MUST SEE!" videos, I'd have preferred not to have seen them at all.

"Owned": I have rarely (if ever) seen an exchange in which someone truly got owned. Instead, these videos generally feature an intelligent person attempting to teach a pig (which only annoys the pig).

"Eye of the beholder" stuff.

People see something, it is the last straw for them. I consider the undeniable destruction of a crime scene where there was arson with fatalities proof of a government cover up. I honestly do not see how a rational person could see it otherwise, to me it is absolute proof. However, those who cannot begin to believe their government does evil will not take anything but a confession as "proof" and they are not the type to confess....
I hear you, I understand your point, but I think a lot of people see things that is "proof" to them, while others cannot or will not see what they see.
I guess I am in favor of free speech, even the word "proof."

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

I AGREE:

but, I don't believe the corporatist govt got your note!

LOL.

Now, only if the corporatist govt would exercise the same standard, not to mention, the masses apply such equal skepticism and scrutiny vs. the corporatist govt and their dutiful MSM mouthpieces, whenever they claim they have manufacture 'evidence.'

How come most people aren't as eager to want to apply the same scrutiny vs. govt/corporatists and MSM??

This is simply us 'policing' ourselves.

Have you seen them offer any evidence in the Boston Massacre, or any other case, have you?

Pictures of faces in various places, MA State PoliceState chopper infrared images don't equate guilt, it just means a person has been caught in their surveillance grid.

Having the public's cellphone/smartphone video recording of audio of automatic gunshot firing don't equate to a 'firefight.' The cops could be shooting into an empty space, or be shooting at unarmed suspect. That's a one way massacre, not a 'firefight.' If the cops are trained to lie, and even continue to assert "stop resisting" or "stop" as they're trained to do, does that actually mean a suspect is resisting, or not stopping? After the advent and wide availability of audio recording devices, to aid their 'innocence' in court cases, the police academy began training them to say that even as they are assaulting an unarmed suspect, or now, tasing immobile suspects. So just because a jury hears audio only of "stop resisting" out of view of dashcam, but nevertheless ON a dashcam, does not automatically equate guilt.

It's like, would you give the benefit of the doubt to a rapist shouting "stop resisting!" to the woman he's raping, even as he is clearly raping her, in front of you??

Why DO rapists and murderers always play the victim? Worse, why do people, who are nice on the most part, accept the cries of the assaulters/rapists/murderers, and not of the actual victims' ??

Why does the public continue to value words and claims of govt functionaries more than their own fellow man?

This is a full-on Exhibit A) of the Vox Populi Lobotomy: the Magical Alchemy of Uniform, and the autonomic acceptance of anything coming out of the mouths of those who say "Hello, I work for the government," but not those from mere 'peons,' the 'mundanes.'

They already lied about initially 'catching a suspect,' when they didn't.

They already lied about, and instantly alluded to 'TeaParty Jihadist' as culprit, with no evidence.

They already lied about the brothers committing the 7-Eleven robbery, when they didn't.

They already lied about the younger brother running over and dragging the older one, when alleged witnesses (as if they're any worse or better than a cop or a bureaucrat claiming they have evidence or saw something) stated that in fact, it was the cops who ran the older one over, and dragged him.

They already lied about the FBI NOT knowing about the brothers, when later they were forced to clarify by CBS of all places, when confronted with the assertion by the mother and the aunt that the brothers, especially the older one, have already been contacted, tracked, and most likely 'handled' by the FBI.

Yet, it's still more natural for the public to assume 'of course, the families would assume innocence,' but not natural for the populace as a default, to assume govt to be 'GUILTY until proven innocent,' when frankly at this juncture in history, they literally have ZERO credibility, whatsoever.

So...given such, since WHEN do known liars and murderers have any credibility, when they've been proven to lie constantly, historically, and factually??

Seriously, again, I'd like to ask, WHEN, does the 'brand' government become synonymous with a degenerate sociopathic guild of assaulters, kidnappers, entrappers, pedophiles, rapists, torturers, and murderers?

Where is a law in the universe that states that govt/public servants should be held to any different moral standards than the rest of the 'peons,' well...unless you are a member of the Ruling Class or their dutiful Pavlovian Praetorian Guard lapdogs?

I'd love nothing more than the masses apply the same skepticism vs their public servant employees. Until that day comes, people will still feel the guilt, and the need to clarify or assert upon others, that THEY 'need' to not claim or say that they have 'evidence' or proof, when they don't.

This, is an unnecessary guilt projection, from a good hearted person.

But, you'll see no such empathy from them, as they've proven, they're more than willing to convict, jail, and murder innocent citizenry, repeatedly, often with NO "evidence" whatsoever. Even when caught lying, instead of admitting guilt, they'd rather keep that citizen locked up, or deny retrial, or dismissal, or expunge records.

But I 'get' it: most people do not understand the mind of sociopaths, because they themselves are nice people, and cannot imagine or fathom that there are others in the world who really don't give a fcuk about niceties, or fairness, or equal application of morality.

That, is precisely what the socipathic controlfreak nerd guild are counting on. No?

But suppose this will continue, as long as people still don't get an image of a degenerate sociopathic guild of assaulters, kidnappers, entrappers, pedophiles, rapists, torturers, and murderers, whenever they hear the term "government."

I pray, that the people wake up soon. We don't have much time...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Seamusin is right

People post what they think is some inconsistency and then leap to the conclusion that it must be a government conspiracy. Not that I don't think government conspiracies are real, but seriously.

If you guys want people to take you seriously, maybe somebody needs to do some real investigation. I'm talking real police work, not just circling some pictures and claiming it as proof.

Ron Paul - Intellectual hero

Send this request to the

Send this request to the government

the truth the whole truth and

the truth
the whole truth
and nothing but the truth
so help me god!

a mantra to live by

So nobody swiped a swab of bloody looking liquid.

Or stepped in it?

Uploaded content is not immune to tampering by privileged perps.

Chain of custody must be established for information to be used as evidence and not mere hearsay.

Free includes debt-free!

I have

a bunch of idiots who are yelling at me saying "what other proof do you need". And I reply back saying, " There is NONE!!". I swear people just listen to CNN and expect it is a 100 percent true. It drives me NUTS!

Bump

For truth

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

Thank you.

I thought the animals had completely taken over the zoo.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

There's a swarm of folks here

There's a swarm of folks here who don't know the different between evidence, proof, and golly-geez-that-fits-with-what-so-and-so-says-and-plus-it-gives-me-tingly-feelings-of-immense-power-and-total-doom-all-at-once.

We can only hope they are teens, playing off game-boy mode for a spell. When adults play the fool, well...it makes one glad we're a Constitutional Republic.

I wonder why? Maybe because

I wonder why? Maybe because all the Feds crawling around here starting stories of fake blood, fake bombs and what else to further cover up what really happened...

This

"golly-geez-that-fits-with-what-so-and-so-says-and-plus-it-gives-me-tingly-feelings-of-immense-power-and-total-doom-all-at-once"

Made me spit beer on my monitor!

I know. I was always spewing

I know. I was always spewing wine on my keyboard after reading my own or others' big-hyphenated-monstrosities....UNTIL! my husband built a spew-guard for me. It's like one of those plexiglass hoods over the salad bar, but low-down over the keyboard so you can snake your hands inside and just type and read without spewing-fear

that's funny

very cleaver contraption!! Keyboard Spew Sheild

If you think it's bad here.........

go to the comments on the yahoo news articles.

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You know...

I guess we have a tendency to forget how lost the rest of the country is. The most ignorant post on this board is light years ahead of anything on:
HuffPost
Politico
WP
NYT
Etc...

Séamusín

It took me a little while to figure it out but,

I think this is what is going on.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/07/darpa-wants-social-m...

So here's a comment that I'm posting of all those threads:

Are you people from the Pentagon still here? All the E1's at SMISC raise your hand.
What's your agenda this time?

wiredDOTcom/dangerroom/2011/07/darpa-wants-social-media-sensor-for-propaganda-ops/

"it makes one glad we're a

"it makes one glad we're a Constitutional Republic." Boy, are you ever the wishfulthinker!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

We are. A Constitutional

We are. A Constitutional Republic.

This is not wistful. It's just true.

When folks mock this foundation, they give up. Declare their impotence. And what good are they -- you -- then?

May I suggest you go speak

May I suggest you go speak truth to power at a town hall meeting, make sure you give 'em your name and address, then get back to me with your righteous indignation.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

talk about righteous indignation

I have NO PROBLEM going to town hall, city council, board of supervisors, variosu state committee meetings, state parks, local building, demolition, envitonmental, mental health, sheriff and local police meetings, events, fire department, I have no problem going into a court house, city building, county building, state or federal building, or any office.. writing a letter, making a phone call and leaving a business card with my contact or standing up, introducing myself, going to the microphone and telling them the "truth to power".

Why is it so hard for you to speak the truth to power?

It isn't hard for me bad

It isn't hard for me bad speller The Granger. It's how I know we don't have a constitutional Republic anymore. I have two federal lawsuits right now because tptb didn't like my words and they illegally arrested and jailed me while at Town Hall.

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

LOL! Beat me to it!

LOL!

Beat me to it!

Words are good

Words are (can be) used in a slang-type fashion *oftentimes bein' (done in) fun but not always readily understood.

Well, words do lose meaning or seemingly even if for a season (but for a season).

*"oftentimes"
http://grammarist.com/usage/oftentimes/

**snore

Being in an open forum you're not gonna (going to) be able to conform the mass.

Does my music system shake your walls o' neighbor one?

Tell that to people that post

Tell that to people that post threads like :"CBS Oct. 28, 1993: World Trade Ctr. Bombing was a FBI Inside Job! Yes, You read correctly: CBS!"

When all Dan Rather did say was there MIGHT be some evidence to suggest the suspect was involved with the FBI.

I hate the hyperbolic "I have proof" and/or "this time it's over for one person/or a group like Fox News etc."

I, and other have corrected so many thread headlines over the years its ridiculous.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...