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Boston bomber: Could this video be considered "proof?"

I'm willing to risk Nystrom's wrath and being jeered for posting when I said I would be (really ought to be) in the garden, but... You folks are like family to me, except that at least some of you actually listen... lol! This seems important in the extreme to me, if not the "proof" the youtuber claims, it is far closer than anything the MSM has offered up. (By the way, you all DO realize they did NOT hold up the 7-11? That was 2 other guys PRETENDING to be them. Think about that for a while.)

http://youtu.be/bjocGidSLJw




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backpack looks off to me

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He is NOT leaving the seen with his backpack

at least you can't see a backpack in the photo.

In video of the two brothers walking toward the finish line the OLDER brother has the black backpack and the YOUNGER brother has a tan colored backpack.

Why are you people so hell bent on proving your preconceived notions?

Maybe these guys didn't do it but you people have twisted every fact so much that you are now seeing things in photos that do not exist in those photos.

Agreed. And as I pointed out,

Agreed. And as I pointed out, "proof" can be made from anything. As an experiment, I'd like to see someone make proof that they did it too. Cause I'm sure it can be done.

"at least you can't see a

"at least you can't see a backpack in the photo."

I tend to agree with this assessment if the bounds are indeterminate, i.e. one can't tell whether he was wearing the backpack to his side or left it at the scene of a crime.

I am

Not seeing a backpack on him. It is too hard to see but if I had to make a choice, I would say he didn't have a backpack on but that doesn't prove he did it. He could have just dropped it or maybe his brother had it. Him leaving with out his packback isn't enough proof to convict him. Plus his backpack was not black.

The men in black and khaki are not contractors.

They are the Massachusetts National Guard's 1st Civil Support Team: http://www.dailypaul.com/282579/identity-of-the-men-in-black...

Also, suspect #2 is NOT wearing a backpack in the post-blast photo:

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Not likely, but we've been

Not likely, but we've been over this bridge with you numerous times previously. ;)

Pssst...

Hey buddy, take a look at this: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/freedom-...

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We have discussed this several times...

and you always leave the conversation ignoring any replies I post with evidence that refutes your assumptions.

Like this one: "Your assertion that US military personnel never ever wear dissimilar uniforms or non-issue hats is laughable.

I suppose these Air Force rescue guys are mercs because some of them are wearing non-issue hats, right?: http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/070228-F-2992S...

And I suppose these US Army SF guys must be mercs too because they are wearing non-issue hats, right?: http://en.specwar.info/special-forces/usa/us-army-special-fo... and http://www.airsoftxmx.com/pincho/SF/greenberet8_resize.jpg

And I suppose these guys from JTF 242 must be mercs too because they are wearing non-issue hats, right?: http://cryptome.org/0003/so-jtf-242/so-jtf-242.htm "

And this one: "How about you studying the multiple photographs of CST members wearing black and khaki, which you are implying they don't wear:

Here at the marathon: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2013/apr/15/boston-m...

Here on duty in Washington D.C.: http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story_print.asp?id=123237536

Various CSTs wearing them here: http://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=22521

http://www.idaho.ang.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123259663

http://dmva.alaska.gov/content/galleria/Alaska%20National%20...

http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391361/6th-civil-support-team-...

http://www.army.mil/media/235471

http://www.nationalguard.mil/news/archives/2010/09/090210-CS...

http://www.army.mil/article/78045/

Here in black and Khaki and standing next to one of their trucks: http://hermes.lssu.edu/~jshibley/Release%20Photos/LSSUSecCon...

Here with a backpack that looks identical to those of the uniformed men in Boston: http://www.dvidshub.net/image/391303/6th-civil-support-team-... "

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Bwahahahaha !!

Bwahahahaha !!

A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves.

You're laughable. You post

You're laughable. You post pictures of groups from JOINT task forces outside of the CONUS and mindlessly thinks such "evidence" supports your contention that this alleged "support" group at the Boston Marathon consists of members of a unit from an ANG CST. LoL ...

The only thing that is laughable...

is your assertion that members of the US military never ever wear non-issue headwear, as can be seen in the photos in that comment.

The pictures in the first comment aren't being used as evidence for the CST identification, they are used as evidence against your erroneous claim that US military personnel never wear non issue hats.

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Your alleged "evidence" is

Your alleged "evidence" is pretty shabby, I might add. In the CONUS, military commanders would have to authorize variations in uniform beyond standard items. Your totally irrelevant photographs of members of joint task forces operating outside the USA in combat zones is just hilarious. Some of the members of those teams aren't even American and some are members of private contractors. ;)

I can't stop laughing. Anything else?

All the men I was refering to are american...

and they were all members of the US Military.

Air Force Rescue Squadron personnel: US Military

US Army Special Forces: US Military

Joint Task Force 242: an inter-service Joint Task Force from various US Military branches

None of them are contractors.

Secondly, if you are contending that just because one of the men in Boston is wearing a non-issue hat, that must make him a mercenary.

Then you are doing something we like to call ASSUMING.

Wearing a non-issue hat in no way proves that someone is not US Military.

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Hardy har har ... See my

Hardy har har ... See my previous post which you apparently missed and a much closer look at the photographs instead of relying solely on captions from another source. ;)

Keep cherrypicking...

and keep assuming, because that's all you have.

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Now, you're accusing me of

Now, you're accusing me of being the cherrypicker, eh? Personally, I'd revisit your own posts and photographs, e.g. the man from the "Agency" in one of your photographs. According to your previously ludicrous extrapolations, assumptions and omissions, I suspect you consider him a member of the US military, wearing a non-issue hat, and operating within the CONUS, too, eh?

You're too much ...

Anything else?

The "agency" man is in a seperate photograph...

which is irrelevant anyways, because even if they weren't all US Military in that photo I posted of JTF 242, their are several other photos of US Military personnel wearing non-issue hats that I posted which you are ignoring.

You are cherry picking one photo and ignoring the rest.

The claim that US Military personnel never wear non-issue hats is erroneous.

Here's the other photos you ignore:

Air Force Rescue: http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/070228-F-2992S...

US Army Special Forces: http://en.specwar.info/special-forces/usa/us-army-special-fo... and http://www.airsoftxmx.com/pincho/SF/greenberet8_resize.jpg

Furthermore, you still have not proved that wearing a non-issue hat means the men in Boston were not US Military.

Because wearing a non-issue hat does NOT prove the wearer is not US Military.

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Goofy

No, it's not irrelevant, because it calls into question the composition of the personnel in your CHERRY-PICKED photographs. ;) Your photographs consist of teams composed of members from different units operating outside the CONUS and in a combat zone REGARDLESS of your assertion otherwise. Look at any available patches. Stop looking solely at captions. AGAIN, commanders MUST approve the wear of non-standard items or a member of the US military is not complying with regulations of the UCMJ. Your extrapolation of conditions from overseas to the CONUS is ridiculous as is your silly accusation that I don't respond to your silly questions. How many hours have I wasted on your silly nonsense, now?

Regardless, your time has expired. ;)

You are cherrypicking.

You have 3 others photo's I linked you to of US service members wearing non-issue hats.

You are continuing to ignore them.

The photos were posted to demonstrate that the claim that US Military personnel never wear non-issue hats is erroneous.

If you are claiming that US service members never wear non-issue hats you are dead wrong.

I'll ask, once again.

What is your proof that wearing a non-issue hat automatically means someone is not a member of the US Military?

You can't prove that, because it is not true.

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I keep seeing you here making

I keep seeing you here making all kinds of sense! Stop that! I told you it was not allowed.

I just don't know how to stop!

Somebody help me!

My inability to use wild speculation is having a really negative effect on my ability to communicate with the irrational!

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Woops. sorry Josh

Wrong comment meant to put that someplace else.

Great pic but his conclusion is wrong.

The Pic of "suspect #2" leaving the sean with his back pack on is amazing. Kind of hard to say he did it when you see that. Look for yourself:

http://oi35.tinypic.com/o53xq1.jpg

But his conclusion at the end is just wrong. He points out that "the guy" does not have his pack after the bombs go off but that is just not true.
This picture ( in upper right) shows "the guy" standing there with his backpack:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/42068...

But here is the full size, un-cropped version of the pic. You will see the bomb has gone off and on the other side of the finish line stands "the guy"... with his backback.

http://i.imgur.com/9vGr70O.jpg

Bomber or not

Why are these two guys in khaki standing in the street doing nothing? Everyone else in the photo is active, moving, helping, running. Why are these two guys standing like there is no threat? Do they know the threat has passed? Is the full sized image photo-shopped? They look very out of place in the full sized image.

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You are correct about the photo of the two men in khaki.

It was taken 1 minute and 57 seconds after the first explosion, and clearly the man on the right with his backpack: http://i.imgur.com/9vGr70O.jpg

Besides the aftermath of the explosion being clearly visible: the marathon timer shows 4:11:40

The first explosion occurred at 4:09:43 as can be seen here: https://vine.co/v/bFdt5uwg6JZ/embed

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funny thing about backpacks

funny thing about backpacks is that many look the same from the outside while the contents may vary wildly...what are the contents of which backpack/s? What if there were many backpacks? #rabbithole

People are cropping the photo...

and claiming it is from before the blast.

The evidence I posted confirms it was taken after the blast.

I'm not making any claim other than that the photograph was taken after the first explosion.

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agreed...still waiting for

agreed...still waiting for the damning evidence from TPTB...I can see no valid reason not to release whatever video or other smoking gun evidence they may have. The only reason not to release is that they don't have it and are afraid to give that away to the defense...

A synchronized time server is

A synchronized time server and stamp is the important piece of the puzzle that's missing from these photographs ... ;)