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Sibel Edmonds' Assessment on Boston Bombing & Col. Morris Davis on GitMo Tortures - Abby Martin Apr. 22, 2013

RT America - Breaking the Set with Abby Martin, Ep.149:

New Kind of Gitmo Torture, Losing Miranda Rights, Boston: Prep for Police State?


http://youtu.be/ZQcAS8xTu-g

Abby Martin Breaks the Set on Gitmo Hunger Strikers, Losing Miranda Rights, Boston Bombings, and US/NATO Chechen Ties

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EPISODE BREAKDOWN: On this episode of Breaking the Set, Abby Martin talks to retired Col. Morris Davis, former chief prosecutor at Guantanamo, about the growing number of Gitmo prisoners joining a hunger strike aimed at drawing attention to the illegalities of the facility.

Abby then looks into the calls to suspend the Boston bombing suspect's Miranda rights, and exposes how these rights have been eroding in recent years.

BTS wraps up the show with an interview with former FBI translator and whistleblower, Sibel Edmonds, about Boston being a preparation for a police state in America, and outlines the complex history of US/NATO Chechen relations.

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Sibel Edmonds' assertion is that from her 1st hand intel analyses and translations of highly classified data, from between 1996-2002, she can unequivocally state and prove that US Govt has been funding, grooming, arming various 'rebel' factions (including Al-qaeda) in a high stakes geopolitical chess game (at doorsteps of India vs. Pakistan, but really about leveraging anxiety vs. Russian and Chines borders), which includes Chechnya.

Edmonds goes on to state that arms marked for US' NATO ally Turkey, were/are in fact HOW weapons get 'laundered' into Chechen rebel strongholds.

For those who may not be familiar, aside from Constantinople/Istanbul's legacy as the final leg, and its fortunate or unfortunate place in history as a major culprit for bringing Silk Road to its demise (ashes of Mongol Empire breakup, embargo, trade wars, and Crusades oh my! But who says history doesn't repeat? lol), Turkey has always been a hub for Europe, Africa, Mediterranean, MidEast/Central Asia, East-to-West trading routes, from arms, prostitution rings, to narcotics. So, being a member of NATO, and its cultural amalgam of diverse geopolitical movements, it has always served as a spook-central/clearing house of intel assets.

So guess history is simply repeating itself.

Now where the brothers and their family as a whole (as Wayne Madsen, the former NSA intel analyst posited), fit in?? Remains to be seen.

What she does close out with, and perhaps most apropos of current events?

The ENTIRE Pro-Chechen American lobby is 100% neoCon operation, including familiar players like Clinton's former CIA Director, James Woolsey.

Bet some of y'all still thought that neoCons were/are strictly a GOP controlfreak murderous guild.

Nein! Nein! Nein!

As oft stated here, there is no L v. R, just one ruling party regime: just us the Free Humanity, vs. the Ruling Class and their dutiful sycophantic turds.

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Boston man-FBI footage that hasn't gotten any attention

Look at the released video of the brothers walking, is it just me, or does that guy in the doorway, as the brothers walk by, seem to be signaling that they are passing? I have looked at that over and over again, and he moves in a lot of strange ways, but his flat left hand goes up and out as the older brother passes, almost like a signal, after they both pass his right hand is extended in the same manor as the woman in pink jacket approaches. He also fidgets with his ear a bit, but he's moving the whole time, my theory is he keeps moving so that his hand signals don't look sudden enough to catch anyone's eye (anyone that's not supposed to notice that is)..Am I way off base here?

If you had to design and build a TV

you wouldn't smash it... I know it is just for effect, but why hurt an innocent TV because Wolf Blitzer is on it... it would be better and more powerful for her to just TURN OFF the TV! Either that or to take a sledge hammer to a cardboard replica of Wolf Blitzer; a cardboard replica of Wolf Blitzer would actually not be much different at all from the real Wolf Blitzer... 2 dimensional, no substance, etc.

Informative video though, great post.

hey, it's the legs that sell real info, not the mind,

didn't ya know??

lol.

yup. a sad commentary on 'modernity' eh?

but literally destroying Blitz, the former AIPAC lawyer lackey?

always, fun times xD

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Hey Merc, did you see this?

Those guys in khaki and black turned out to be WMD-CST guys from the National Guard: http://www.dailypaul.com/282579/identity-of-the-men-in-black...

It certainly provides more evidence that there was foreknowledge of a threat or a drill going on that day.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

yeah,

I was listening to AJ on 4/15, and I cringed actually when he kept on saying "it's Navy SEALs! it's Navy SEALs!" (can't recall exactly if he wondered that out loud on Monday April 15th, or asserted that days after)

Now, AJ wasn't actually saying that they were 100% SEALS for certain, but were likely and the fact that they were wearing Chris Kyle's group Craft International caps with Punisher-derived logo, and their gear, and demeanor certainly lent to the possibility that they were probably either SEALs, or other SPECOPS/SOF or former ones who were working as mercs.

So if one were listening when he was screaming that, in medias res, they wouldn't have heard him going through the process of wondering/thinking-outloud, and out of shorthand, just called the whole 'look' as "they're SEALS!"

That said, setting aside Austin Bulldog's fatigue from 2hrs of sleep after doing C2C and Opie & Anthony back to back, he could've simply said that they LOOK like former special forces types, like SEALs, and it would've cleared up the confusion.

Then again, to all gunnies, the 'Blackwater'-look is all too familiar, or to anyone who buys police/mil gear out of 5.11 tactical catalogs. So to be frank, the khaki cargo pants, polo shirt, and douchey-tacticool sunglasses and buzzcut is really not that uncommon among gunnies, both civilian and/or currently active military or off duty SWAT or even regular cops these days.

your linked WashTimes article, if the content of the interview turns out to be true, it does lend a bit more clarification. but that said, you've NEVER seen them on FBI propaganda press conferences, nor any mentions of them, aside from a few papers that covered the issue. well, at least I personally haven't seen them. Plus it's odd that those photos circulated around, went viral, yet both Craft International and CST refuse to go on the record as to why they were really there, that day.

My main key point of departure is always whether they were running drills that mirror the scenario or the content, or at the least something similar to how the actual 'terrorist' attack unfolded on days leading up to, or on that day.

And seeing as how the corporatist govt has exactly ZERO credibility with me, none of these questionable circumstances surrounding the bombing leads any rational, historically alert person from discounting either active false flag of LET it happen on purpose, or MADE it happen on purpose.

Now, granted even with all the post-9/11 DHS/DoD grants you don't really see NBC (nuke bio chem) or CST teams that often, even at large populous/high spectator-density events. so the fact that CST were there, even on purely 'consultancy' basis, for one thing, it's still Posse Commitatus violation (not that the statist tyrants care), and two, IMO, that CLEARLY signals foreknowledge.

And as anecdotal witness testimonies filtered in, many regulars to such events, and those who've particularly attended Boston Marathon regularly, it was clearly obvious to them the overabundance of presence of security, as asserted by this openly statist vet who worked K9 units in the past:


http://youtu.be/PhslVyYRhNQ

But of course, more question remain. If they were there, it'd be logical to presume that they had some foreknowledge, and the fact that drills were being conducted THAT day, doesn't help their case as to some complicity.

Now, after listening to AJ calmed down, Wayne Madsen deeper geopolitical assessment with CIA nexus and Boston as a hub of Chechen refugee activity, Sibel, and Joel Skousen, and my own personal assessment that they always intentionally design ops loosely, on purpose (sometimes to a level of perceived sloppiness precisely because it affords them more leeway to play audibles along the way; when an op is designed 'too tight,' any 'mistakes' seem more pronounced), I'm of the mind that FBI may have stepped into CIA's turf, either by accident or by intention.

if one studies past false flags, it becomes clear they almost always run multiple patsies, and fall back plans, so who knows how many times they shifted about. viewing MSM timeline realtime vs. AJ show, it is highly probable that AJ's Dan BiDondi effectively shutting down three press conferences in a row, could've actually influenced them calling audibles. The first culprit they were going to point to did seem like that disheveled scruffy dude who had his bag on his forearm, then the whole "Tea Party Jihadist" angle seems to have been staved off; literally it was the first 'terrorist' event in recent years that they WEREN'T able to pin point and lay the claims on a decisive 'guilty' party, minutes after the event.

For example, OBL was declared guilty ON 9/11. They had TWO full days to figure out where to lay the blame. Could they honestly have been caught completely off guard? Well, perhaps. Then it points to utter inefficacy of their 'precious' $100BILLION+ per year surveillance policestate apparatus now, don't it.

Either way, to me, it was another in a long line of "Govt Failure Days!" And the only thing that matters now is what rights are they going to use this event, to infringe upon next. Like how fast are the prospects of DHS MRAPs rolling up to my neighbor's cul de sac.

Well, if one were a resident of Watertown, MA, I'd say that day has long come and passed, already.

Is time nigh? LOL. Time to go double super-duper Galt??

lol. watch this space, my friend .D

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as for the CST and the merc-looking dudes, this is what I wrote, earlier, on it:

they do look it, [was referring to a post that asserted they were mercenaries]

Submitted by AnCapMercenary on Thu, 04/18/2013 - 07:23. Permalink

While I admit, it's probably likely, as most people have no clue just what even half a platoon worth of SOF/SPECOPS/1st SFOD-D/DEVGRU crew can wreak havoc on any city (they can literally shut it down in less than 2minutes, and take out key personnel to cause mass confusion and make it SEEM like multiple simultaneous attacks), that said, I do 'get' that Alex Jones was tired from two hr sleep from staying up to do C2C & Opie & Anthony back to back, when he first said, 'hey these guys look like Chris Kyle's group (Craft Intn'l)! That 'Punisher'-logo looks exactly like his company logo! They must be his SEAL buddies or private mercs!' Then he started saying shorthand "Navy SEALs!" throughout yesterday's show.

That said, I believe he did mean to say former/current SEALS or SPECOPS or other SOF, off-duty SWAT or mercs and bound them for conversational shorthand. Because while it IS likely, from their posture, gaze, and demeanor, you really can't tell from pictures alone 100% to claim 'They're Navy SEALs! They're Navy SEALs!'

Besides NO DoD SPECOPS team running illegal Posse Commitatus violating op (oh right, they do that all the time, regardless, never mind) is gonna wear a team/unit patch/insignia.

Though, while OPSEC-moronic, it is entirely possible that the supposed Nat.Guard WMD team (as if there are actually any WMD without "Fort Detrick" imprinted all over it or FBI/DHS entrapment cases) were simply wearing Chris Kyle's Craft Internationl baseball cap in his honor.

But, the assertion that they were going around checking in person for NBC (nuke bio chem) is kinda ridiculous, given the availability and the Fed's tendency to show off corporatist funded sensor technology at large events as a beta-rollout or simple deployment without scrutiny; if anyone entered the Marathon with even a minute trace of medical-precedural radioactive isotopes, or even a set of Tritium smallarms sights, they'd have long detected it.

Hell, they pulled over a grandma after a medical procedure, around Lincoln tunnel right after 9/11 (can't recall if she was entering from NJ or leaving NY). I would know. I was there in NYC-metro when that news broke.

And, IF truly radioactive, you are not gonna walk around and approach it in your 5.11 cargo khakis, or your not-so-subtle 'I swear I'm not off duty Mil/LE' cap, cargo pants sartorial hilarity.

Also, I do 'get' what Alex means with 'he can tell these guys form a mile away:' If ANYONE has trained in reputable tactical or competition shooting schools, occasionally you bump into these guys at classes: sometimes in private classes/courses, but other times, they actually mix in with random 'civilian' classes just to see what the latest 'commercially' available stuff is.

It's no accident that most proficient manual of arms manipulation, stance, grips, speed/tac reloads, shooting on the move techniques ALL came from or utilized a highly evolved versions of, as practiced in competition shooting: ie. Leatham-Enos high thumbs forward grip, forward carbine support grip (though nothing 'new' as you can find old WWII pictures of soldiers doing it with TommyGuns), tight-elbows-in CQB-Tac.shooting stance/posture/grip, fancy one-handed reloads, etc. If you look at old NAVY SEAL PR videos, even their CQB techniques look straight out of old FBI vids (though chances are old UK SAS taught SEALS, and their techniques filtered throughout FBI/USMC at Quantico); it really wasn't until they saw what was going on in IPSC & IDPA circles, and now 3-Gun, did their technique modernize. Though now, since a lot of ex-military and SWAT compete, the chicken or the egg origin is really murky.

But that 'look' has been around since State Department hired private mercs to do their security detail.

I actually call it the "BlackWater"-look: the baseball cap, photographer 'tac' vests, khaki cargo pants, tan boots, stupid competition side cover Oakleys; to ANY gun guys, that 'look' screams 'he's got a gun! he's got a gun!'

Or, for that matter, anyone who orders out of 5.11 catalog.

But, it is true, if you've been around military types, you can instantly tell apart real 'operators' vs. the rest; they really don't scream 'I'm in the military!' They're almost scary 'cool.' But something in the eyes, you can almost sense that they can instantly go from Mr. Nice Guy, to 2inch neckblade in the carotid artery, then walk off and eat lunch.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

lol

Honestly, I always look forward to your take on things, always well thought out, lengthy in a good way, and full of information with a nice touch of humor.

Great reply.

I agree, the presence of CRBN guys is a pretty clear indicator that there was foreknowledge or a drill.

In my opinion it's the drill aspect of this that is the most important thread to pull, that's where the story will begin to unravel.

I'm leaning towards MIHOP on this one, I think it's likely the FBI was leading the bombers along like the '93 WTC bombing.

It is also possible that the bombers may have thought they were part of a drill.

I think those are the two most probable scenarios if this is a false flag.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

very astute, Josh, as always.

indeed:

In my opinion it's the drill aspect of this that is the most important thread to pull, that's where the story will begin to unravel.

I'm leaning towards MIHOP on this one, I think it's likely the FBI was leading the bombers along like the '93 WTC bombing.

It is also possible that the bombers may have thought they were part of a drill.

I think those are the two most probable scenarios if this is a false flag.

it's like these a-holes think so little of us mere 'peons' they don't even bother to change their playbook.

Well, I suppose I DO agree with 'Ol Blue Dress Slick Willy on one thing: "they will continue to use it, as long as it still works."

He said that a few years into GWB regime when asked at an event's Q&A portion about 'Karl Roving' of the American political landscape (as if it's anything new).

But, really, the only thing I got out of that, as I watched with much bemusement, was the reality, the prospect of the sheer ubiquity of the naive, gullible, historically and geopolitically-imbecilic liberals who actually seriously deluded that Dems have 'never' done what Karl Roves of the world were doing in politics.

In fact, it feels like a repeat under oBUSHma: Dems simply want to be LIED to better, with more slickness and subtlety. The continuation and expansion of GWB warcrimes and domestic policestate by oBUSHma, is literally the same exact Clinton playbook/history repeating: Wag-the-Dog Balkans (politically convenient, timed drone bombings you never hear about, and do hear about), ATF-Ruby Ridge/Waco/OKC/Omnibus Crime bill (Sandy Hook and AWB 2.0), FEMA (GWB and Katrina), UN land sell-off (UNA21 continuing), Chinese weapons import ring (ATF Fast & Furious). But do they care? Or, even know?

Cliched, but true: they're literally acting like a woman stuck in an abusive relationship; she knows her man's cheatin' on her, perhaps 'even beats me 'cause he loves me,' but doesn't want the illusion of 'hopelessly in love'-destroyed, so she rationalizes the different perfume, odd hours, the occasional wavy red hair on stuck on his dress shirt, etc.

Because in the end, like a slave, the prospect of truly being independent scares her, more than being remain stuck in an abusive socially hierarchic structure. Like all insecure psychological prisons of the mind, there's always an element of simple guilt: she cannot face up to the fact that she was 'stupid' enough to pick the wrong person: leaving the relationship means admitting that she was wrong, period. Or worse, repeatedly attracting the same type of guy, means admitting that there may be something fundamentally 'wrong' with her, as a person.

That, in the end, is what it has always been about: admitting 'guilt.' Whatever insecure form that takes, or comes in.

Sad, that people are willing to let others murder people, and continue to actively support them, to solely emotively satiate a 'grander idea' in the abstract (whatever that larger than life idea that makes one feel good to be part of, depending on at what epoch in history)

I give you Exhibit A): the simple act of denial of personal guilt, like this gay fella Adam Kokesh interviewed at WhiteHouse fence: http://www.dailypaul.com/283035/adam-kokesh-why-nothing-ever...

** The Dude is um...like, basically like, um...er...like, Gay Marriage is like way more important than not murdering people, and if it makes same-sex marriage possible, I can live with voting for oBUSHma! Wee!

Seriously, if anyone wondered why nothing works politically in the aggregate, please observe the above depicted species #13494910093: Homo Erectus Civilis Morionis Noscere Dissonus Perpetua.

yes, indeed-y!

It's a sick human phenomena, really. Hell, doubt we'll ever see the day that a wolf in the wild would ever stick to an abusive relationship, out of simple guilt. LOL.

In some sense, the Aurora Shooting/Sandy Hook/Boston Marathon, like 9/11, one can go crazy trying to dispute or analyze every aspect of it.

I think I went through about a full-on 24/7 two weeks of it, when 9/11 happened. I was across from NYC watching it over from Weehawken/Hoboken, NJ side; if you've never known what a burnt flesh smelled like, you whiffed plenty that day. For those who know what that smelled like before the event, the 'smell of death' was unmistakable. But watching WTC 7, my gut told me the obvious, in that afternoon. I knew despite all its bluster, the American populace have been so dumbed down, I knew a visible policestate was blossoming right before my eyes. All the details of the event aside, that has always been my focus: what will they use this event TO DO?

Well, if one follows history, the answers obvious: whatever they can get away with, and whatever level of tyranny the moron sheeple populace are willing to accept.

um...talk about feeling lonely, knowing that the global trend in 'westernized' nations would follow America's 'lead.' There's no 'escape' as if the tyranny don't get stopped in its tracks here, one's deluding him/herself if they think places like New Zealand or Chile would offer them some reprieve.

Then, observing the large geopolitical movements, at the end of the day, Rovians and NeoCons were committing so many crimes per sec, every day, it almost becomes pointless to go 'gotcha, ya bastards!'

The same is true then, as now, under oBUSHma regime.

They certainly don't care, and the feckless political structure will NEVER go after one of their own.

So, it always falls on the people to simply become self-aware and informed, and realize who these people are and what they do, what their modus operandi is.

It's like I know they're bad, so...how deeply should I find out they're baddie, bad, bad, bad?

I've long determined that for me personally, the political process is fruitless, not to say that I see no value in the political platform to amplify good ideas, as Dr. Paul has. But he, being the old sagacious soul, too must have told himself, and long decided in his youth that politics as a medium, if used to attain power, will NEVER change anything, only spreading good ideas is what politics as a tool should serve, NOT dictate.

So I was frankly never saddened by the 2008 or 2012 results, it served exactly the purpose. I never felt 'betrayed' as the likes of Adam Kokeshes of the world so publicly blurted out, which frankly exposed his own demons more to me than any 'shortcomings' of RP. Adam literally acted like he never looked up to RP as some abstract, distant father figure, and felt personally deserved an answer from him, after the Randpocalypse.

Be that as it may, I frankly marveled at how throughout, RP never lost sight of his place in the world and politics in its proper context, despite most of us always secretly hoping for a miracle. As he's publicly stated, if he thought he could changed the world in one election cycle, one term in Congress, one would go nuts; his Law of 'low expectations' is as good as it gets!

Frankly, the prospect of ANYONE who is just, winning an election legitimately is in question, as long as we continue to have blackbox voting.

but back to the current geopolitical drama unfolding via possible false flag...my question is, well... since when ISN'T it a false flag? LOL.

Like the abused woman in my previous example, I continue to marvel at the sheer level and length and duration of the lies that people are willing to put up with, from the same bureaucratic players!

It's like, seriously, as I asked repeatedly here, WHEN does the 'brand' government/corporatists ever gonna become synonymous with a sociopathic guild of assaulters, kidnappers, abusers, pedophiles, rapists, torturers, and murderers?

Like, how many times is one willing to give the 'benefit of the doubt' to a bunch of killers?

Mind blown, eh?

The sickest holding pattern is, those of us who are 'awake,' know the Ruling Class has long crossed the Rubicon, and are actively pushing the populace to a brink.

What that proverbial 'spark' will be? The one that will set off a chain reaction of status quo societal collapse? Yikes. I shudder to think.

Because we ain't Europe, or Asia...

Plenty of people know who the 'baddies' are, once SHTF and TEOTWAWKI comes, a lot of people are willing to play out...as Tony Soprano would say, "I'm gonna have me some satisfaction."

What can one do, but get one's own affairs in order, prep and continue to thrive on one's own with his/her own purpose, and watch the slow moving Titanic and the interplay of the sociopathic controlfreak nerd guilds and their willful gullible prey of sheeple destroy each other, hoping to pick up the pieces from their ashes??

Yeah, it's tiresome watching history you've only read about play out in realtime, with serious daily reality to global geopolitical implications... why can't life be boring? LOLOLOL.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

updated commentary:

Sibel Edmonds' assertion is that from her 1st hand intel analyses and translations of highly classified data, from between 1996-2002, she can unequivocally state and prove that US Govt has been funding, grooming, arming various 'rebel' factions (including Al-qaeda) in a high stakes geopolitical chess game (at doorsteps of India vs. Pakistan, but really about leveraging anxiety vs. Russian and Chinese borders), which includes Chechnya.

Edmonds goes on to state that arms marked for US' NATO ally Turkey, were/are in fact HOW weapons get 'laundered' into Chechen rebel strongholds.

For those who may not be familiar, aside from Constantinople/Istanbul's legacy as the final leg, and its fortunate or unfortunate place in history as a major culprit for bringing Silk Road to its demise (ashes of Mongol Empire breakup, embargo, trade wars, and Crusades oh my! But who says history doesn't repeat? lol), Turkey has always been a hub for Europe-Africa, Mediterranean, MidEast, Central Asia, East-to-West trading routes, from arms, prostitution rings, to narcotics. So, being a member of NATO, and its cultural amalgam of diverse geopolitical movements, it has always served as a spook-central/clearing house of intel assets.

So guess history is simply repeating itself.

Now where the brothers and their family as a whole (as Wayne Madsen, the former NSA intel analyst posited), fit in?? Remains to be seen.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul