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Obama used EO to enact part of UN Gun Ban Treaty

http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2013pres/04/20130419a.html

A good commentary here:
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/executive-action-obama...

So, anybody ready to defend the right of the "mentally ill" to defend themselves? Besides me, of course.

Crickets?

I expect so. I have this silly notion that if they have not committed a crime, they should not have any rights stripped. Essentially, this means it is now a crime to have a bout of depression. Is everybody happy?

This is how they do it, folks. One group at a time. Looks like I get to go first... I feel so special. See you all when they get around to you!

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Cyril's picture

BUMP. Thanks, fishy.

BUMP. Thanks, fishy.

Also noticed by doctor011:

http://www.dailypaul.com/283357/obama-signs-firearm-and-ammo...

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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Dear all traitors,

Dear all traitors,

In... the executive, the Supreme Court, Senate, Congress...

Pretty please, do me/us a favor and bite, swallow, and choke on this:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

Because I am not going to shut up about you any time soon.

Bon appetit.

With My Most Sincere Contempt,

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

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I feel you, fishy: you got how their treason works exactly right

I feel you, fishy : you got how their treason works exactly right.

Of course.

:(

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Will they force mandatory

Will they force mandatory psych tests, when people start, as is their right, refuse to take them

Cyril's picture

Most likely. They will try, anyway.

Most likely.

They will try, anyway.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

If a psychiatrist even looks

If a psychiatrist even looks at you you will be diagnosed with something that requires a specific expensive FDA/Illuminati approved drug to treat it and will have undocumented or evaluated violent side effects...don't cha know

My thoughts are often

My thoughts are often whirring at the "whys" on their actions. With the knowledge of the coming economic collapse and the real possibility of another fiat currency being put in place, there are entities I'm sure who don't want Americans to fight it. The thought occurred to me today about how the colonists got foreign help during the Revolutionary War. Our federal govt knows all-to-well about arming groups to rise up against governments. Do you think this is an attempt to make sure Americans have no way to get help if it ever were to come to that? Just curious.

Divide and conquer.

The masses have now consented to have all "mentally ill"people stripped of rights. Next up, I am guessing the elderly - they just don't understand, they can't take care of themselves... Then kids. Don't you DARE teach your children to hunt, you terrorist! Christians will get their turn, as will everyone else.
One by one the "mental health" of every group imaginable will be called into question, and everyone who is not in that group will come to agree, "those people" should not have a gun.
Everything they do is to incite fear, and send the masses running to the government for safety. Once safely on Daddy's lap, the masses are told who it is that is terrorizing them, by the most heinous terrorists on the planet. Irony.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

They don't even have to name every group

All they have to do is name a few groups and slowly start expanding the definition of those groups until they include everyone.

First they came for the socialists-----

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007392

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And oh the irony... Who came?

And oh the irony... Who came?

Other socialists.

You know, "the more equal" ones.

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http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

This was their goal

This was their goal all along. Previous attempts to regulate guns focused on specific makes/manufacturers and features of the weapons. This was a miserable failure because manufactures would just come out with new models and features that would immediately outdated the legislation.

Banning access to guns for the mentally ill allows them to ban all firearms (present and future) for a specific group of people. Once this is established they can expand the definition of who qualifies as mentally ill. This has played out multiple times throughout history in Russia, China, Japan and Germany. Ultimately, anyone who opposes the government is labeled as mentally I'll and thrown in an institution where all of their rights are stripped away.

peace + liberty = prosperity

ChristianAnarchist's picture

I've consistantly been for guns for all.

I've been for protecting guns rights for everyone since the 70's. People will ask me if we should allow mentally incompetent people to own guns and I always say "yes". How about ex-cons? "Yes" again. The only people I think you can restrict are people who have been locked up for crimes. Once they're out, they get their guns back.

Oh, we can't have that... They will kill people! Yes, they will. And if everyone else has guns too, they will eventually be dead. Let's face it people, you cannot stop bad people from doing bad things unless you kill them and you cannot kill them if they have guns and you (like a good little sheep) have given your guns up because of some words written on a piece of paper...

I agree.

They start with the those labelled mentally ill and expand the list until it includes everyone.

Get the guns out of the hands of those who commit the crime and leave others alone.

An entire nation should not be penalized for the crimes of the few.

By definition who is mentally ill?

Everyone.

Especially those who see lines in the sky, because that's normal.

I think in general we should

I think in general we should have more liberal gun laws. There should be no back ground checks, period.

Southern Agrarian

It is completely useless.

Honest people will go get their background check, people intent on committing murder will go steal a gun from someone who passed a background check.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...