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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Unarmed At Time Of Boat "Shootout"

Three days ago we pointed out that while the story surrounding the alleged Boston Bombers had many gaping holes in it while it was being made up in process, following the filing of the official sworn FBI affidavit making things up out of thin air would become far more complicated. Sure enough, one specific section in the 11 page sworn testimony caught our attention: the one discussing the capture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev following the boat "shootout".

Read more: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-25/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-u...



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I'm Confused by the Washington Post Article

The Washington Post article referred to in the Zero Hedge post is two pages (see: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/offici... ).

The first page confirms the title of the article, "Officials: Boston suspect had no firearm when barrage of bullets hit hiding place".

However the second page says. "In the immediate aftermath of Tsarnaev’s capture, police officials said he had fired from the boat and he was reported to have been captured with several weapons. There were also reports that the gunshot wound he suffered to the throat might have been an attempt to kill himself as police moved in."

So are the cops contradicting themselves or did the Washington Post reporter fail to clarify why the pages differ? It reads like two different pieces of work put together, doesn't it?

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holy cow man

Something is very, very wrong with all of this

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

He entered police custody uninjured.

Then he got a gunshot to the throat. Who inflicted that wound? And how is it justified to shoot an unarmed man who has surrendered?
It is a very bad thing to be a thug. It is a far worse thing to be a thug with a corrupt justice system and media covering your crimes.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

We don't know that...

he very likely could've been wounded in the throat when the police shot at him while he was in the boat.

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where's the blood on his t shirt if he was shot in the throat?

If he was shot in that barrage of (didn't they say rubber?) bullets, then why wasn't the neck of his shirt blood soaked as he climbed out of the boat....in fact I don't see how he could have climbed out of the boat but whatever.

http://cmsimg.defensenews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=M5&Date=20130423&Category=DEFREG&ArtNo=304230017&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&McCain-Unclear-Whether-Boston-Bombers-Were-al-Qaida-Members

The photo is overexposed...

no information about his wounds can be determined from the overexposed area, because there is no information there.

That is not a white t-shirt, he's wearing a black sweater, which has been overexposed in the photo because of the police spotlights.

Do you know how cameras work?

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Really?

You think he can take a life threatening bullet to the throat, but just casually crawl out of the boat on his own, with no droplets down the front of his shirt - overexposed or not, the spatter pattern would be visible.
He WALKED into police custody, THEY put him in the hospital fighting for his life.
And gee.... what am I thinking? When this kid confesses it would be CRAZY of me to suggest he felt threatened....

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"overexposed or not, the spatter pattern would be visible."

No, if it overexposed it just shows up as white, as the photo shows.

You guys can argue all you want against it, but the average rational person immediately sees that the photo is overexposed, and understands what that means.

Why do I even bother with you people?

If overexposure doesn't matter, then I'll help you guys out.

Here's a single photograph proving all your claims:

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Incredible

Fishy is as dumb as a bag of rocks.

Got anything growing in the garden?

I turned my son and daughter and law loose on my seed box back in February - there was a "preparedness fair" coming to town and I wanted to try to throw a small AP system together for it. They went a little berserk, so I have been nursing these starts for almost three months now, I have corn over a foot high, a zucchini and a winter squash in bloom, a watermelon putting on buds... all in my windowsill. Our last average frost date is June 1. I don't know if these poor babies can hold on that long, but we'll see.
When I was young, cops got in trouble if they injured a SUSPECT. And everyone was a "suspect" until "proven guilty in a court of law." Quaint and outdated notions, I suppose. I do not approve of police brutality, they are to be guardians of the law, not vigilantes. The cheering crowd makes me nearly as angry as the murderous cops. The sheriff in the next county had his deputy hold a loaded gun, safety off, to my friend's head and torment him for over half an hour, terrorizing him and his wife. They were called to their home for a domestic dispute that was obviously NOT happening, and they proceeded to terrorize them, injure them, and waltz away without even a slap on the wrist. I've done my best to be honest and warn you. I cannot make anyone see what my eyes have seen, but I know what I know, and trusting cops these days is the fast track to tyranny.

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yeah I know how cameras work

and it may be overblown enough to block out a dark red stains and blood spurting from his neck although I doubt it. But lets run with that .... if a dark red blood stain is overblown wouldn't his hair be white as well? His hair isn't OVERBLOWN into whiteness. And how many people do you know shot in the neck would be able to easily climb out of a boat? And I also find if very curious that all these cop cars equipped with video cameras as well as helicopter videos and hundreds Boston video cameras as well as the convenient store etc. and all we get is a few pictures.

Why the black out?

And why are you so quick to accept the official story and quick to condemn anyone with a question? Is information conformity what you are after or just civilian military obedience? You know it takes great leaps of faith to believe the official story. But blindly accepting the official story is A-OK and justified by you? Why? Because it is most logical that they would tell you the truth? Yea cuz that's the way it has always been in history LOL

So it's overexposed enough to block out the black on his clothes

but not overexposed enough to block out the color red?

That makes absolutely no sense.

"His hair isn't OVERBLOWN into whiteness"

Well, no shit.

The light from the spotlight isn't as intense on his hair as it is on his sweatshirt.

Take an introductory photography class.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

You are so myopic

You want me to believe that he's shot in the throat, bleeding all over the place, not holding his throat injury to stem blood or even to try to comfort the injury or to let people know he's injured. You want me to believe that pain and the debilitating nature of the injury was so insignificant that he easily climbed out of the boat and ambled easily over the to the police but became life threatening once he got to the hospital?

And to top it off, the official report was that he had a gun, he used that gun to give himself a self inflicted throat wound while trying to commit suicide. Turns out he doesn't have a gun, he didn't try to commit suicide (unless it was with a corkscrew left in the boat) and he's leaving the boat seemingly uninjured or at least only mildly injured.

yet you want me to make the leap of faith that he was shot while in the boat because of a photo that you perceive as overblown and an official story by the police? Yeah that's logical! WHY is believing that he got shot up in the boat more logical than him being injured after the fact? What evidence do you have that he was injured in the boat? Bullet holes in the hull and the "official story"?

Were you the attending

Were you the attending physician? Did you personally examine the kid? You make a large number of assumptions. All you or I know is what we've seen, which frankly isn't very much.

I'm just going by what they have told us

and concluding there are inconsistencies.

They say he had a gun.
They say he shot himself in the neck.
Now they say he didn't have a gun.
Yet he still was shot in the neck.
The photo they supplied shows no injury in appearance nor in action.
He was reported to climb out of the boat on his own and walk toward police.
They reported he was in critical condition at the hospital. I didn't assume he was.
Gunshots to the neck that destroy ones ability to speak are naturally serious...are they not?

If you can't see the inconsistencies here then it's no wonder most of America won't question anything.

You can believe whatever you want.

But, the photo in question does not offer any proof either way as to whether he was shot in the throat before or after leaving the boat, because it is overexposed and no information can be learned of his wounds from the overexposed area.

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"...no information can be learned..." from this photo.

should be the final word. Nothing regarding color, value, or texture can be learned.

Undo what Wilson did

photos don't only show you color or texture

and even if you want to dismiss this photo it still provides plenty of evidence.

Holy Shit

there are still people on this site with reason.

They are getting fewer and fewer every day.

When the animals take over the zoo, all the guests flee the mayhem.

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This is known as

This is known as "projection". Projecting one's personal point of view onto another (in this case, the deluded idiot in Boston) is a personality defect. Yes, the police are as incompetent as they seem at times, probably in line with the general population, but becoming a cheerleader and defending the cause of violent murderers is inexcusable.

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You call it like you see it

the POLICE are violent murders and the actions are inexcusable. Thanks for posting that.

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It's likely that

these police have never been involved in something dangerous before in their lives and this is their first chance to go bangy with their toys. What happens? They shoot the shit out of anything that moves. We're lucky that homeowners weren't killed.

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