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Poll: 70 Percent of Americans Say Smoking Weed Is Not a Sin

A national poll released Thursday by the Public Religion Research Institute shows that 50 percent of young Christians support legalizing marijuana and that an overwhelming majority of Americans don't think it's a sin to get high.

The overall results of the poll are consistent with other national polls, including one released earlier this month by Pew that found 52 percent support for marijuana legalization.

http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/04/25/poll...




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No...But It IS a SIN If....

....most of you do not even realize that this was posted in April-May.

(Or do you??) LOL!
"Father forgive them....."

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Diamond Dog's picture

The Diamond Dog abides


http://youtu.be/sYsw0KVRjCM

The Diamond Dog is a real cool cat. | Reporting on the world from an altitude of 420.

Whew

Big weight off my shoulders....

What about masturbation?

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

Using Pot is not a sin.

I would venture to guess that those who do think Pot is a sin are the very same who keep Sunday as the weekly sabbath which is a sin, celebrate the Saturnalia/Christmas which is a sin and honor Easter the goddess of fertility which is a sin. Sin is the transgression of the LAW and nowhere does the Law say anything about Pot and since Pot does not cause you to sin then there is no justification for calling it a sin.

How can they even see a speck when such a huge beam is in their eyes.

We are told this in the Bible

"Therefore whatsoever ye eat or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God"

This should be our guide and let each man judge himself in whatsoever he does, asking himself, "Is this pleasing to God what I am doing?"

Peace

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

What are the "elements" of

What are the "elements" of sin? Shouldn't there be an objective set of characteristics that determine what is and what is not sin?

If one of the more "religiously knowledgeable" could present the essential elements, then we could judge the act of consuming cannabis against these elements.....and wind up with an objective answer?

SO, WHAT ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT DETERMINE A SINFUL ACT?

"I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual."

I don't get the religious

I don't get the religious attitudes towards substances. Obviously there is crap you should stay away from because it does ZERO good, like junkie drugs or stuff that makes you trip. But what is the harm with a family getting drunk together and having a good time on a holiday? All weed does it make you moronic, hungry, and laugh at everything for a few hours. The sin is in general lack of self-control, and it expands to all area's of a person's life. An addict is an addict, and they can turn anything in the world into harmful behavior. I feel sorry for my family that we can't have a few drinks on holidays and have fun. Instead they just sit around a table and talk about how basically everything in the world is a sin and evil.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

What in the world does

What in the world does "sinning" have to do with anything?

Your personal relationship with the Spirit

or God, whichever you prefer.

They that give up liberty for security deserve neither.

Discouraging

There is a big difference between a sin and a crime. While as a Christian I do not believe getting high is a crime (that falls under "Caesar's law" kind of thing), I DO believe it is a sin (since any abuse of the body, or anything that takes us farther away from God, is a sin).

It's not a crime to be angry over petty things, but it is a sin.

It's not a crime to go into debt, but it is a sin.

It is not a crime to be addicted and to have other moral failings, but that does not make them not sins.

Legalizing marijuana is fine, because marijuana is an herb designed with a specific purpose to help people, and if it's abused than those people need help and encouragement in overcoming their addiction without fear of being put in jail. Abusing it, however, is spiritually damaging.

There is a proper way to overcome sadness, ways that strengthen the spirit and our relationship with God. There are lots of good, wholesome ways to have fun that do not damage our relationship with God.

That makes me sad, seeing a poll like that.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

"I DO believe it is a sin

"I DO believe it is a sin (since any abuse of the body, or anything that takes us farther away from God, is a sin)."

You saying that consuming cannabis abuses the body.... and takes you further away from god?

I thought the burning of incense was to get CLOSER to god, and that no one has ever correlated cannabis with bodily harm, but I'll let you present your evidence....

List your sources, please.

(Starts whistling the theme-song from Jeopardy...realizes that it's only 30 seconds long....hits the repeat button several times)

Aw screw it life is too short. You guys are jumping the gun on this one. You're "harm" accusation is baseless, and chances are it will remain baseless for another few thousand years. You guys STILL keep saying "harming your body is wrong", yet you STILL haven't shown how cannabis causes harm!!!!

"I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual."

If suddenly 70% supported torture(not murder)

Would it suddenly become acceptable?

I don't recall the Bible saying we can't torture someone to save someone else!

I'm sorry, but just because you want to do something and feel better about doing it, having the approval of others, doesn't make it right.

I live by the rule: Everything in moderation and sometimes the smallest measurable amount is too much.

As a Christian I agree with Ron Paul, i would try and talk you out of it, but i would never tell you what you can and cannot do.

PS: and for the record, if 70% of American's actually lived a Christian lifestyle, we would not be in the mess we are today. That alone should debunk any polls about what is acceptable or not.

I'm starting a Bible study

I'm starting a Bible study on living a Christian life and being called to be holy.

It's hard for the world to understand that someone who is a Christian doesn't want to be like the world.

1 Peter 1:13-16
13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: 15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

FYI - I choose this verse last night without even considering this thread, but I note that "girding up the loins of your mind, be sober", that sober is also another word for not being intoxicated.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

deacon's picture

by blessing pagan food

i can thereby bless god PAUL
but if it makes on sin,i shall refrain-PAUL
because we all know smoking pot gets one drunk like
spirits do-me
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depressiuon

And again I ask: Which Christianity?

True Christianity that follows Scriptural truth and doesn't seek to force there personal beliefs on others? Who keep the Commandments of GOD and reject the traditions of men?

Or the false Christianity of this world that follows false worship and doctrines such as Sunday, Christmas and Easter under the false name of Jesus and tries to force there doctrines on others? Who reject the Commandments in favor of the doctrines of men?

Marijuana, aka cannabis, aka pot is a creation of GOD and is included in the original allowance that "every green herb that has it's seed can be consumed". Drinking is not a sin and neither is marijuana unless you do either to the point of constant drunkenness.

The problem is not that %70 think that pot is not a sin. The problem is that false Christians think that they can determine what sin is in the first place and then force it on others. Sin is the transgression of the Law and main stream Christianity not only breaks the Law but teaches others to do so.

There will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth when the day comes.

and if you want an example of

and if you want an example of the Christian lifestyle, you should be a shepherd.

A shepherd is always alert. Ready to inform the sheep, kill for the sheep, and protect and save the sheep with his life.

I wonder

what the flying spaghetti monster things about pot.

Well, it's refreshing to see that the majority still get

*some* things right....

What would the Founders do?

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Why would it be any more of a sin for someone to smoke weed

than use chamomile tea to put them to sleep?

Sometimes people's reasoning baffles me.

Um..

I can't remember if it is or isn't.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Sins and despair vs Hope and joy

And harming yourself is a sin.

I don't believe you need to be religious to know when something is a crime that harms others or a vice that harms yourself - and possibly others, that it is part of nature to know it.

I simply believe that you want to get rid of your sins and vices after you are saved. That you repented of them before, and they are an unnecessary burden.

There is a deep need to know God in man's heart, and no way that natural man knows how to do it. He feels despair. He feels God doesn't listen, doesn't care. And he feels bad that he is going to die someday. "So let us eat and drink today, for tomorrow we die" (1 Corinthians 15:32).

And then he discovers that God really does love him. That there is a way for him to know God. That God has made a provision and way for him to be saved. And that way is Jesus Christ. He hopes. He prays; and he is saved by God Himself. He is filled with hope and joy where there was sin and despair. He has been set free from the bondage of sin, and given everlasting life.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Are you saying that

marijuana is a sin if consumed?

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

I said exactly what I said.

I said exactly what I said. Better re-read it.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

I asked you a direct question.

Why do Bible PUSHERS act like politicians when asked a direct question?

Did you say marijuana is a sin or are you saying God said marijuana is a sin?

Please answer directly. If you'd like to say "Yes" followed by a passage in which you think God said this, then that is perfect. But please don't dodge the direct question.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

That isn't what my message

That isn't what my message said.

I asked you directly to do something. I asked you to reread my message.

I'm capable of being just as rude as you are, but at the moment I am not. Read what my message was actually about.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

You didn't ask me anything.

You told me to re-read it. And I did. Nothing in that message says God says cannabis is a sin.

Ok *sigh* let's try this ONE MORE TIME. And I'm being very polite, btw.

ALL I ASKED is if YOU, MaxK, said Cannabis is a SIN

*or*

Are you saying God says Cannabis is a sin.

PLEASE answer that directly.

"yes" or "no"

Then we can continue our "debate."

Here: since you haven't found the scroll up button on your browser, this is what you said. Let me know where you find the word "Cannabis" or anything of the same nature in YOUR post:

"And harming yourself is a sin.

I don't believe you need to be religious to know when something is a crime that harms others or a vice that harms yourself - and possibly others, that it is part of nature to know it.

I simply believe that you want to get rid of your sins and vices after you are saved. That you repented of them before, and they are an unnecessary burden.

There is a deep need to know God in man's heart, and no way that natural man knows how to do it. He feels despair. He feels God doesn't listen, doesn't care. And he feels bad that he is going to die someday. "So let us eat and drink today, for tomorrow we die" (1 Corinthians 15:32).

And then he discovers that God really does love him. That there is a way for him to know God. That God has made a provision and way for him to be saved. And that way is Jesus Christ. He hopes. He prays; and he is saved by God Himself. He is filled with hope and joy where there was sin and despair. He has been set free from the bondage of sin, and given everlasting life."

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

deacon's picture

crickets

nothing but crickets
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depressiuon

Deacon..I tried with Max

I really did. I kept replying to his non-answers and still got nothing.

It's not a big deal but why do people act that way? I truly believe there are a lot of people like Max out there and that's not good.

"I can't answer you directly or else it will hurt my argument."

I'm not saying Max's wrong for believing what he believes, but dodging an honest question does not help his cause.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

deacon's picture

yeah i saw that myself

i am a firm believer of if you something you believe in but can't back it up,then its time to analyze your stance and figure out why you believe that way
if you have an argument with out facts,then it is just beliefs,and usually someone else taught them that (without facts)
a lot of religions out there teach their own version of truth,complete with their set of doctrines,these are not grounded in the bible,nor facts,it is just a belief system set up by men
i have been a member in many churches,could have been a pastor in 2
but there is more politics and personal beliefs not found in the bible
with todays bible we use,they are incomplete,with whole books taken out,was this taken out to deny the rest truth? i say yes
i have some of the missing books,i say some as i might never know how many books were actually taken out,but one in particular speaks
of solomons ring,with this ring he was able to conjure up and control demons and spirits,and this is how solomons temple was built.
is this fact and truth? who knows,but it does explain why it was
built at night(no one saw it being built,and would also explain
why there is no recorded bragging(records)of it
then there are texts that predate the bible,some of these have the same stories recorded (a savior who died,reincarnated,moses in a basket,)
i bring this up to show how much is lacking in what we call truth and adhere to as facts
but i firmly believe if asked a question and you cannot answer as to why you think the way you do,then you are either a liar,or base something on the lack of facts
i pointed out on another comment how things change from one bible to another,if one bible has not what another has,then which one is wrong,or are all of them
if you read the things from the PUG,you would have seen how he changed things around or didn't answer directly,like marijuana is the same as getting drunk,his response was,in a nutshell,i won't look for any more truth,but i will hold onto this for fear of offending god,instead of actually finding out if his beliefs are biblical
my belief is this we have a creator,this is not a god,but is used to enslave us a people,some of the things in the bible we use now
leads me to this conclusion,like ezekial(the wheel within a wheel)
sure seems to be talking about a spacecraft
jacobs ladder speaks of beings descending and ascending a ladder
now,spirits don't need a ladder for anything as they are not bound by the laws of this world,nor could jacob grab ahold of one and wrestle with it all night
sorry to rant,just wanted you to know why i believe the things i do,if i find i am wrong i will change my belief system
deacon

setting your expectations to high,can cause depressiuon

You just took a picture of how I think.

Just going to be reiterating some of things you said because you listed a very intimate list of the things I constantly think about, minus the new info you provided (ring of solomon). Thanks for that, btw.

Every since I came across the Dead Sea Scrolls/Book of Enoch (thanks to Above Top Secret), I have been asking, "What else was 'taken out' of the Bible?" or "If Men wrote the Bible and Men make mistakes, is it possible there are a lot of mistakes" or "if language has changed so much over the last 2 millenia, is it possible interpretations have changed the actual message of God/Jesus/Buddha/etc?"

I say yes to all of that. Do I have proof? Nope, but neither do people like PUG or Baptist. They just give me more scripture that describes close to nothing accept what they interpret. Also, if people are reading an "incomplete" version of the Bible, how can they call themselves a true "Christian" or "Catholic," etc.? You can't because you don't have all of the information required! It's like a test: you have to study ALL SUBJECTS to receive an "A."

And a single thought made my stomach drop: the Bible changes every time society changes. If God wrote the Bible (men interpreting what God said, anyway) and God is the perfect being, why does it change? It shouldn't have to if everything we need to know is in the Good Book, right?

Here's a question for you, Deacon: if the Dead Sea Scrolls are found to have any accuracy regarding the story of Jesus/God/etc., WHO determines that those scrolls are valid and truthful? How can they prove what those scrolls say if we can't even prove when, exactly Jesus died (~35AD), for example?

Here's another one: I'm not Catholic, but I think there is some really good information inside the Vatican Vault. I want to know why People of God hide things from human beings if it's our RIGHT to know the truth. Honestly, what do THEY have to hide that is so important? I hope to God, we find out one day.

Gonna add you to my friends list, Deacon. I have to pick your brain some more when I have more time.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.