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My Thoughts On The Daily Paul

When I first started coming to the Daily Paul in late 2011 I wasn't sure what to expect. I didn't know what many of the topics were being discussed here. I came here as a McCain voting republican. It was all very foreign to me. The Federal Reserve may as well been calculus to me. As I continued coming to the DP and reading about the Fed and reading about our foreign policy I began to see things I had never seen before. I had that much spoken of "awakening" and a new world lay in front of me. I spent the first few months enthralled with this website. Watching fresh videos of Ron Paul at speaking events and presidential debates was a new and positive experience that I couldn't get enough of.  I was inspired to give hundreds of dollars to a campaign. I was inspired to discuss the primary season with anyone who would listen. The ideas on the DP were worth spreading. 

This is not the same website anymore. It is far different. For someone new to the idea of liberty to come to this site now, as i did a year ago, they would not have the same experience as mine. This website has become Infowars Lite. One year ago if a terrorist had detonated a bomb in Boston we would be angered and outraged at our leaders for having such a imperial and invasive foreign policy that causes blowback on ourselves. We would be telling our "asleep" friends and family that these events are exactly what we've been saying is going to happen with our foreign policy. And, they would begin to see it too and we would continue on our fight for the Liberty movement. 

Now, it's immediately called a false flag and that our government did it or at least knew about it and covered it up. This was said the day of the bombing. Anyone who comes to this site will no longer be greeted with information about our government and it's overreaching and unfair policies.  Instead, they see absolute shit articles about victims who lost 2 legs in a bombing being accused of faking it. That is just one of the many topics thrown around here as "information" since the bombing happened that has turned me away from this site. 

How has the movement fallen so far? Where are the articles about silver and sustainable gardening? Where are the posts about becoming a part of your local Republican party? Everything I know now came from the information shared on this website. There is no information here anymore. It is all shock headlines and empty theories. It has become the very thing this movement stood against. I hope it is simply because it is not an election year and many of the most involved activist are not involved at the moment. I thank Michael Nystrom for hosting such a powerful website for the liberty movement. I just hope it can get back to that by 2014. 

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The Daily Paul is stronger now than ever.

(I promised you an article. Let me start with a comment.)

The Daily Paul works as a news aggregation and filtering system. Like a butter churn full of warm fresh milk, the best stuff floats to the top.

Individually we have very little to go on in our lives other than what has come into our small personal brain through our eyes and ears. Online forums allow us to 'pool' our brains and, through comments and votes, sift out the chaff and dig out the small but precious nugget of truth.

even Teddy Roosevelt disdained pandas

Freedom of speech is freedom of disinformation.

Sometimes the truth is hard to find like a needle in a hay stack and when you want the truth hidden then you bury it with more hay. Everything is a double edged sword.

Wow I did not expect this

Wow I did not expect this sort of response. I just wanted to get these words out when the moment struck me. I thank everyone for their responses as many took some effort and time. Nice to see a civilized discussion taking place on the Internet, a rare treat.

Michael Nystrom's picture

Thank you!

Thank you.

After a conversation today with Ernie Hancock -- that man is full of a lot of love -- and due to his influence, I've decided upon a change of attitude.

Breathe, breath in the air.
Don't be afraid to care.
Leave,
But don't leave me.

Look around.
Choose your own ground.

In the past, I would probably have gotten upset about a post like this - I'd take it personally. Now I'm going to actually put into practicesome zen practices designed to calm the mind and recognize the Illusion. Instead of responding with anger, frustration, denial, I will respond with love.

Or as Ed Seykota would say, "Thank you for sharing your process."

Or as Robert Anton Wilson would say, "Thank you for the data."

Or as Ernie Hancock would say, "Kill them with love."

Hilarious. Ernie is an absolute riot to talk to on the phone. Today I sat in my car in Kendall square with Ernie on the speaker. Like my own private radio show.

Love is a verb.

That's what Ernie says he realized once at Bible study. He had a flash of insight:

Love is a verb.

Let that run though your noodle for a little bit and feel that vibration!

Everyone knows about the emotion.

What does it mean to be a a verb?

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Anyone who reacted with angry comments to this thread (and I haven't read the comments carefully yet, I only scanned them) chew on that for a while.

Love is a verb

Of course, I don't -- can't -- blame anyone for having an angry reaction. Yesterday I would have had the same reaction. Programed, like an automatic, conditioned response in my brain.

In the past 24 hours my vibration has raised (after a tremendous dip of dispair!).

I have undergone a transformation, it seems.

What you resist persists

Drop the resistance, and the problems disappear. Drop the resistance, and the problems disappear. Drop the resistance, and the problems disappear.

I take the blame. I'm sorry. I should have done better. I will try harder.

The blamer wants someone to blame.

Every player needs an opposite. You're here, I'll play the other side of the net for you.

I will take the blame. I will be the scapegoat. Just as Jesus was.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

I saw the turmoil earlier this week and I am glad you

have landed in a good place. So glad! I didn't have words to say, and still don't. I am just happy to read you here. You have been thru a lot these last few months and you had a horrific weekend, and gee, I take lots of things personal. I think it is because you care. When you care, I think there is a vulnerable spot. At least for me there is.

I have only been here a year. I like the OP learned have so much in that time. I am still learning things. It is different now that the election is over, but hopefully we can use that action word, love...because hate is a verb too.

Proverbs 10:12 KJV
Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.

The buck does stop with you, but we all play a part here and we are responsible for our part. Thank you for a place to play a part. I do appreciate it.

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Michael Nystrom's picture

Bear, you are full of love

There are people here who are full of love. You are definitely one of them. For that love, I am eternally grateful.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

Thank you for your kind words, they made my day!

I read them early and treasured them all day. Thank you Michael for the gift of love today.

Even though you typed them, they are the fruit of your lips...or fingertips.

Isaiah 57:19 KJV
I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him.

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Seriously?

Three people died in Boston and several others were injured, some in a life-changing manner. It is tragic.

Last year, 532 people were murdered in Chicago alone. In February of this year, "only" 14 people were murdered in Chicago, the lowest number since 1957.

Chicago Murders

Lowest Since 1957

The reason you don't see any of those stories posted on the Daily Paul is because (a) it does not make the news so it is not "in the news," and (b) there has never been a god damned military invasion of Chicago, complete with tanks rolling down the streets, and military personnel -- not just city cops -- doing unconstitutional house-to-house searches without a warrant just to find a suspect, even though they had no reason to believe that the suspect was in any particular house.

It is outrageous! If you have awakened from your McCain stupor, then maybe you've noticed that the only "domestic terrorist" plots within the USA in the past 10 years have been conducted by a few unnamed members of the FBI.

You DO know that, right?

And you whine about the fact that people are trying to figure out what the hell happened? Seriously?

When a crime is committed that makes national news headlines, people talk about it. When the government reaction is to institute martial law and violate constitutional rights en masse, then I would hope that people would talk about it at the Daily Paul of all places.

And I also hope they would keep the government's feet to the fire as best they can to point out where the story doesn't seem to add up, considering that NONE of the government's stories add up when it comes to so-called "domestic terrorism"

And if you can't figure out why those stories just don't quite add up, then I would suggest you are not as awake as you think you are.

If the Boston incident had never happened, none of the related threads would have been created. If you don't want to read them, don't.

Cyril's picture

Well, on precious metals, I try to share as much as I can

Well, on precious metals, I try to share as much as I can about what I find interesting:

http://www.dailypaul.com/myposts/44859

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

No one bullies me to shrink

No one bullies me to shrink from controversy.

Americans are getting hip to

Americans are getting hip to the false flags. The trend is going to be more discussion of the conspiracies...so brace yourself.

I do agree that the idea people weren't really hurt in the Boston bombing was a bit much. Without a doubt...people died and were injured. A country that has no conscience when attacking the innocent overseas, obviously sees no value in human life and would have no problem attacking its own innocent citizens...so why would they 'fake it' with actors? Sandy Hook though? That entire event is disturbing...and I won't even get into Robbie Parker.

And don't forget what the Nazi Goebbels said..."The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it".

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Talking about it is fine.

Talking about it is fine. Littering the board with posts that can debunked by a two year old is another story. 500 Alex Jones parrots is boring. Maybe an original post from time to time?

so what exactly have you

so what exactly have you 'debunked'?

Only conspiracy theories I've seen debunked lately are theories created by the government. Most of them defy laws of physics.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

What some call Proof is far

What some call Proof is far from proof. A picture off the internet that they have no idea who took the photo, have no idea if it is doctored, and it is proof! It shows nothing yet this long story goes on and on.... Listen I read Alex daily... and I know plenty goes on... but most of the posters on here wouldn't be allowed to be a water boy at Infowars. If you have something new, Factual, and it hasn't been covered then post away. Like the Texas plant hit by missel! Yes fertilizer plants don't normally explode with a 5 alarm fire! Come on the video showed nothing but what would be expected. Garbage. Now if you have a vid showing a ASM slamming into the plant you have something...

So, when the government tells

So, when the government tells you they 'got Bin Laden' and dump the body in the ocean...you would choose to believe that, even though no proof is offered?

These people are perpetual liars with a long history. They kill innocent people around the world on a daily basis with no remorse. Why do you believe anything they tell you? When an event occurs that moves their agenda forward, how can we NOT look for a conspiracy?

There would be very few conspiracy theories if the government didn't have a long history of being involved in conspiracies. I would much rather have AJ speculating over conspiracies than the MSM propaganda.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Not sure what this has to do

Not sure what this has to do with your previous responses but, am happy to move along.

You are making assumptions. I never have bought the Bin Laden story. Not from pulling off 911 to the swimming with the fish.

You also use a very broad term Government. Do you mean the Government workers mowing alongside the roads? In the Toll Booths? The air traffic controllers? You do realize you more than likely have some of these Government workings in your extended family, on your block, and within your town.

How sure are you that Alex isn't a disinformation Agent? After all he never rallies the troops to action. In years of having the public ear he has done nothing other than rant. His answer is to spread the word by getting as many people as you can listening to his radio show. If he is genuine then why not take a modest salary and spend every dime spreading the word? I don't think he really is an agent but, I wouldn't stake my life on it. He may be profit driven.

I have news for you. This country was formed by a conspiracy. Conspiracy has been going on since Jesus was a bus boy. If you are serious about being a conspiracy detective I would advise you to turn on the TV and watch all the MSM. In other words keep your friends close and your enemy even closer.

Life is short and you have the power to believe and live the way you choose. Even if the end is near why push your family and friends away with all the Alex hype? I choose to try to live a balanced life and realize somethings I can change and somethings I can not change. I choose not to live in fear.

How has the movement fallen so far?

Simple. Divide and conquer. We are the ones being divided.

By proxies of the RNC or who knows who else.

Dummy accounts like Liberty_First, Liberty_Star upvoting all the divisive and controversial threads, downvoting the good content.

They also ridicule the conspiracy theorists and attack Rand Paul at every opportunity. They are only throwing gas on the fire.

Notice that as soon as Liberty_First and some of the other proxy accounts are banned, other long created dummy accounts are reactivated such as 73Anne37, who after a year of inactivity suddenly are multi-posting like old pros and only attacks, nothing constructive. Same patterns as Liberty_First and the other shills.

The sad part is, they are winning. They have us fighting each other.

ecorob's picture

I will never admit they are winning, JB!

Because they aren't "winning" when it comes to me!

I love JungleBoogie, btw. Its awesome!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

It sounds like what you're describing is the election cycle...

It's a cycle, and it will come again. During election season, this becomes an activist hub, and the content and contributors change substantially.

All you have to do to get back to that place you describe is only read the stories which you find interesting, and try not to get caught up in threads where you don't feel comfortable.

The posts you're looking for are still here. You just have to know where and how to look for the topics which interest you.

Hope you stick around!

I'm a serial entrepreneur and liberty activist from Texas!

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www.NonNetwork.com

Well said. I do look forward

Well said. I do look forward to 2014.

I recently discoverd the friends aspect og this site

I started adding friends and then their posts are listed in my account. Then I see more of the content I am interested in. The false flag theories are interesting BUT you are absolutely right in that these events are blown up here just like in the MSM. Some people take one side without looking at others. Usually yelling at someone doesn't do it.

I think Michael et al do a good job of keeping the front page a bit more balanced. Maybe you should avoid the hot topic lists!

ecorob's picture

He's not interested in that, RobHino...

Good of you to offer that option, though.

Peace.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

ecorob's picture

name a bad...

"conspiracy" theory...

jfk
mlk
gulf of tonkin
weapons of mass distruction
911
waco
oklahoma city

which one of those do you disagree with? which one of those official stories do you believe?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

You can take off a couple b/c too many will argue

BUt you are forgetting a Big one!

The Aldrich Plan passed on 12/23/1913

Don't forget the babies in the incubators from gulf war 1 either.
Or Kermit in Iran in 1953...Or the Iran contra Affair.

Just saying you can prove your point by pointing out the non controversial conspiratorial plots. Not that I would argue the ones listed are not valid.

has nothing

to do with the DP

It certainly does. Without

It certainly does. Without the Fed able to print an endless supply of money, then most -if not all- of that would have never happened.

The corruption which allows the government to take away rights and commit atrocities or put its people heavily in debt is the same. One could never get back to a Constitutional government with out seeing the violence of the Government. One could never get back to a sound monetary policy if they believe that the government hasn't lied to them to further its own agenda to spend exorbitant amounts of our -and future peoples- money on their friends; thereby padding their friend's bank accounts while ensuring that they have a place to go after politics while leaving us with the bill. One can never get to peace if they don't realize that our Military is used for profit and control at the behest of central bankers, and not for National Defence purposes.

The whole corruption of government was fomented from conspiracy.

ecorob's picture

Well said, TP...

very well said.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

ecorob's picture

Really, JoeCorrao?

Your opinion just got cancelled out by my opinion.

Lets let the court of public opinion decide this issue.

To me, the Constitution has EVERYTHING to do with this site.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Must I dare ask; what will it

Must I dare ask; what will it take before you, and those like you, quite giving an organized mob -government- the benefit of the doubt? Seriously, if you knew someone who was being abuse, but continually believed the abuser's lie, what would you think of the naivete of the abused to constantly believe the abuser?

First Bank of the US
Second Bank of the US
The Civil War
The 16th Amendment
The 17th Amendment
The Federal Reserve
WWI
The Bonus Army
WWII
Iran in '48 and '53
Anti Gun Laws
Anti Civil Rights laws
Korea
Vietnam
The Gulf of Tonkin
Kent State
Taken off the Gold Standard Completely
Creating Al Quaeda
First Gulf War
Ruby Ridge
Kosovo
Waco
Oklahoma City
Somalia
911
WMDs
Egypt
Lybia
Syria
The Patriot Act -Previously called the Omnibus Counter Terrorism Act of 1995
by Joe Biden, even though it was written by the RAND Corporation around
1991
NDAA
The Enemy Expatriation Act

Do I really Need to go on?

Yet you still give them the benefit of the doubt.

Our court system is built so that the Government MUST prove their case; essentially saying that the government is lying unless they can convince 12 people -in a courtroom- otherwise. How has the government proven anything to you? Do you even require the government prove anything they say to you? Sad individuals.

ecorob's picture

Very sad, The Philosopher...

so very sad!

Hey, I've got a novel idea! Let's attack those in the Liberty movement who are trying to keep it real. We'll turn everything around on them and attack them of what they are saying about us. It works every time.

Sorry, bub. Not anymore. The jack wagon that started this thread will get his lunch handed to him.

Threaten to leave? So, what? C'ya.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.