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Obama First President To Speak Before 'Planned Parenthood'...Claims Pro-Life Groups Want Health Care to 'go Back to 1950's'

After the horrendous 'trial' of Gosnell for his crimes against both children born alive after abortions, and their mothers, the current occupant of the White House has chosen to speak at a Planned Parenthood event. Planned Parenthood has no association with this clinic, and has been outspoken about the clinic's abuses, yet has clinics that are as bad, (see * link below) He will be the first 'President' ever to do so. He praised the group's nearly 100 years of service, providing cancer screening, contraceptives, and other 'health services'.

"When politicians try to turn Planned Parenthood into a punching bag, they are not just talking about you, they are talking about the women you serve." Mr. Obama opined. He also asserted his belief in "an assault on women's rights all over the country," with bills placing restrictions on abortions in almost every state.

The Founding Father Thomas Jefferson would both warn us of 'entangling alliances', (which applies to both other nations, and private-public partnerships) and his definitions of what is tyranny:

"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical!" ~~Thomas Jefferson

www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/22/Planned-Parentho... NARAL-On-Gosnell-Abortion-Clinics-Need-Fewer-Restrictions

This one is now giving me a 404, in spite of still showing the same link in my browser. (*sigh*)

www.drudgereport.com (lead) Update- This is Still the Lead!

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When a pro abortion girl

asked Ron Paul how wanted to end funding of abortion is libertarian: Ron Paul said that forcing me to pay for your abortion is not libertarian. Ron Paul said that we should not have any forced taxpayer funding of abortion. Ron paul said that if you want to have an abortion that is fine but you should pay for it yourself not force the taxpayers to pay for it for you. Communist Goals of (1963). Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963 Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963. Some of the 45 communist goals of 1963: Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”: http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm the majority of the abortions are because of promiscuity only 4 percent are due to rape.

jhon

Why Dr. Kermit Gosnell's Trial Should Be a Front-Page Story

Excellent article by The Atlantic. (Also its linked article.) The under-reporting of this case stinks to high heaven. First, there is the horrific nature of the negligence and practices, themselves, that occurred over a period of years and resulted in physical harm, illness, and death to women and children. There is also the fact that circumstances were ignored by Pennsylvania gov't departments and others WHO WERE AWARE: the PA Department of Health; PA Department of State/Board of Medicine; The Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania; Penn Presbyterian Medical Center; and the National Abortion Federation - not to mention most of those who worked in the clinic.

"Why Dr. Kermit Gosnell's Trial Should Be a Front-Page Story"
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/why-dr-k...
"14 Theories for Why Kermit Gosnell's Case Didn't Get More Media Attention"
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/04/14-theor...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

“Roe” actually never had an abortion – she gave the baby up for

adoption. Many years later, she exposed the seamy, manipulative side of the ACLU and lesbian networking in a published book in 1984, ‘I Am Roe’. She ‘came out’ with her real name of Norma McCorvey, renouncing lesbianism and abortion. In 2005 she petitioned the Supreme Court to overturn the abortion law, arguing that the case should be heard once again in light of evidence that the procedure harms women, but the petition was denied. She was arrested on the first day of U.S. Senate hearings for the confirmation to the Supreme Court of the United States of Sonia Sotomayor. – See more at: http://henrymakow.com/2013/04/Misfits-Used-to-Attack.html

jhon

True, but lets look back at the full history.

Before Roe vs Wade, they were illegal but they happened anyway. The way they got people like me to change my mind and say "OK, make it legal" was by maiming and sterilizing scared young girls who "got in trouble." Legal or illegal, the babies keep dying. Some of them are REALLY late term, like 13 or 14 years old.
TAKE IT OUT OF GOVERNMENT HANDS and put it back in the hands of FAMILIES.
Family is where LOVE can guide decisions. If we could really get to the heart of it, I would be most young girls get abortions because they are AFRAID to tell their family. There must be love and forgiveness among the living to save the ones not yet born.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Disagree.

While it's not a national issue, it's definitely a state issue. The fact is, when murder is being committed, the murderer (in this case the doctor) needs to be punished.

It's ludicrous to say "let it go" and allow public, open abortion clinics. YES, people will still get abortions. People also still murder each other. But to allow this to continue is literally the equivalent of allowing legal hit-men, assassins, and murderers-for-hire.

I did not say to allow public, open abortion clinics

And I agree, that if you go ask someone to perform an abortion, that person will be committing murder. Here is where it gets divisive: Women can induce their own, and there is a long history of having it done discreetly and safely, without government involvement. It was a "family matter." Often, an aunt or sister, or even the grandmother would take the child and raise it as their own, within the same biological family. I think if we got rid of the political discussion and gave people a little privacy in dealing with their issues, most abortions would not happen. But you cannot make a law that will take away a woman's ability to induce an abortion and no one would ever know, why insist on laws that are unenforceable?
Why do "libertarians" think that how a woman handles a pregnancy is the ONE THING that government is qualified to handle?

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

I see your point

and as the poster of this thread, I agree with much of what you have said concerning making this less a government issue and more of a family issue. The primary difficuties I have are that Roe vs. Wade was decided by the Supreme Court on a lie, and Obama Care and Planned (un)Parenthood are currently forcing all of us, pro-life folks as well, through the IRS 'agents' at gunpoint to support it.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

And I agree 100% with those points.

See, there IS common ground between "opposing" views, we just have to be willing to look for it. THANK YOU for finding a patch!

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

the whole point here though is that the supreme court decision

of roe vs wade is not libertarian because it overturned pro life laws in all 50 states therefore legalizing it in all 50 states without peoples conset through a Supreme Court case called Roe vs Wade when Roe not only lied saying she got an a abortion because she was raped when she was not raped and did not get an abortion and gave up the baby for adoption and admitted all this in a book Roe published in 1984 called I am Roe where she denounces and goes against abortion and lesbianism. Since 1984 she has been calling for the Supreme Court decision that bares her name to be overturned. She come out and said in 2005 that there is new evidence that the abortion procedure harms women. The main thing is though that there are 50 million abortions per year now and before it was legalized people were still doing it but a lot less. less than 200 actually. The majority of women who get an abortion get it because of promiscuity not because of rape. Communist Goals of (1963).Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963 Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963. Some of the 45 communist goals of 1963: Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”: http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

jhon

important

In 1969, an impoverished unmarried, pregnant girl was approached in a Dallas courthouse by two ACLU feminist lawyers who convinced her to claim her pregnancy was the result of rape – the only way to obtain a legal abortion at the time. The problem was that it wasn’t true, so the Texas court refused the abortion. This is the case the ACLU took to the Supreme Court resulting in abortion becoming a form of birth control in the United States. The ACLU lawyers persuaded “Roe” she was a lesbian and for several years was kept by lesbian handlers. When she grew up in the 1980s, she asserted that she had been the “pawn” of the ACLU. She never wanted an abortion — she was seeking a divorce from her husband — but the feminist attorney Sarah Weddington used the case as a means of attempting to overturn a Texas’ law making most abortions illegal. Weddington took the case all the way to the Supreme Court, which invalidated every pro-life state law in the nation protecting unborn children and the rest is history. “Roe” actually never had an abortion – she gave the baby up for adoption. Many years later, she exposed the seamy, manipulative side of the ACLU and lesbian networking in a published book in 1984, ‘I Am Roe’. She ‘came out’ with her real name of Norma McCorvey, renouncing lesbianism and abortion. In 2005 she petitioned the Supreme Court to overturn the abortion law, arguing that the case should be heard once again in light of evidence that the procedure harms women, but the petition was denied. She was arrested on the first day of U.S. Senate hearings for the confirmation to the Supreme Court of the United States of Sonia Sotomayor. – See more at: http://henrymakow.com/#sthash.663c0kWs.dpuf

jhon

Thank you for the information, my friend

that is very important.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Kermit Gosnell, Kermit Gosnell, Kermit Gosnell!!!

...the SILENCE is deafening!!!!

From the media AND the White House!!!

Play Russian roulette with AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL you poser, blame it on sequestration; yet you have $30 million in your budget next year for THE ABORTION MILL....

God will impeach Obama and ALL those in civil government, in due season, pushing this Roman Empire destructive path of dethroning, challenging, mocking, and provoking the Creator so named in our Declaration of Independence!

So many ask: "if there is a God, how could he let evil flourish in our land?"

I'll tell you...from the scriptures...

Proverbs 26:10 The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.

The Hebrew word for "rewardeth" is:
רכס רכשׂ

Original:

Transliteration: śâkar sâkar
Phonetic: saw-kar'
Definition:

1. to hire a. (Qal) to hire b. (Niphal) to hire oneself out c. (Hithpael) to earn wages

Name it folks! 9/11, Gulf of Tonkin, radical homosexual agenda, abortion on demand...this nation wants the State as God; the Jews told Pilate "we have no King but Caesar!"

Proverbs 28:2 For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: but by a man of understanding and knowledge the state thereof shall be prolonged.

Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

Consider the INSANITY of the Boy Scouts on their resolution compromise yesterday! The Supreme Court said the can have their OWN code of moral conduct: yet the draft a resolution...blah blah blah wheras whereas duty to God blah blah blah whereas whereas morally straight blah blah blah; and CONTRADICT ALL OF THAT WITH " NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT:The following membership standard for youth members of the Boy Scouts of America is hereby adopted and approved, effective Jan. 1, 2014:Youth membership in the Boy Scouts of America is open to all youth who meet the specific membership requirements to join the Cub Scout, Boy Scout, Varsity Scout, Sea Scout, and Venturing programs. Membership in any program of the Boy Scouts of America requires the youth member to (a) subscribe to and abide by the values expressed in the Scout Oath and Scout Law, (b) subscribe to and abide by the precepts of the Declaration of Religious Principle (duty to God), and (c) demonstrate behavior that exemplifies the highest level of good conduct and respect for others and is consistent at all times with the values expressed in the Scout Oath and Scout Law. No youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone."

THIS NATION HAS LOST ITS MORAL FOUNDATION; and WOE be to those in this movement who are pro-death and pro-gay....and WOE be to the civil magistrate who would bless, oversee, endorse, condone, and encourage open violation of the laws of nature and of nature's God!!!

As Larry Pratt and Chuck Baldwin would agree, the 2nd Amendment is the LAW OF THE LAND, we obey that! And so, as the giver of Life and Liberty is in favor of us defending ourselves against a tyrannical government that serves not Him, and His laws; these two "social issues" likewise emit a STENCH so foul in the nostrils of the Creator, so much so that this Godless ditatorship is of ZERO credible authority anymore when they endorse open heinous sin, gross error, hypocrisy, and provoke God to wrath against us as a free people!

It has been declared from Heaven;(and WOE to the sissy-britches preacher who WON'T proclaim this warning!)

Proverbs 1:31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.(32) For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them. (33) But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

I'm spent, gang...I can say no more...this nation is ripe for judgment

If that's what it takes...

More families stayed together, taught their children right from wrong, pride in hard work...all great reasons to return to the '50s...government not involved in healthcare (no HMOs), music wasn't bad either.

Never understood the "50s" argument

Why do so many "liberals" and "progressives" say that, as if it's a valid argument on its own? Is it because they want people to associate the 50s with racism, and therefore *everything* from that era was bad? I don't understand the logic behind this...assuming there is any.

A signature used to be here!

Same here, wasnt the 50's a

Same here, wasnt the 50's a period of relative prosperity with a good standard of living from a one income household and the mother actually had time to raise her children?

God forbid we go back to that...

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

You mean when the doctor made housecalls?

And you could pay in cash and not need a $400/mo. insurance plan that makes you pay outrageous prices.

When the doctor would tell you to change your diet instead of popping a pill?

Oh horrors.

Yes, and children were better educated in the public schools ...

as well. Seems like many things were better back then.....

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

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Why yes Mr. President, 50's health care, when...

the end user actually played a role in determining the market place, rather than big insurance/government getting in the way. Your way of thinking adds so damn much bureaucracy and administrators who want to feel important, you have strangled our ability to pay for it, and further remove us from the decision process. Get out of the way!

Undo what Wilson did

A voteup and a thank you

for your contribution to this thread, and your lovely tagline.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

I wish

obama would realize that had his mother aborted him, he wouldn't have the chance to spew his crap....come to think of it, we would all be better off.

It amazes me how if an infant is killed outside of the womb it is considered murder, but inside the womb it is legal and just to end the baby's life.

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""When politicians try to turn Planned Parenthood into a ...

punching bag,...""

Thanks for the warning.

Undo what Wilson did