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CPS Takes Baby After Parents Seek Second Medical Opinion

A Sacramento couple is without their 5 month old baby after Child Protective Services sent in the police to forcibly remove the child from their care.

A hearing is scheduled for Monday, April 29, 2013 on the incident which was triggered when Anna Nikolayev and her husband Alex took baby Sammy out of Sutter Memorial Hospital and sought a second opinion at Kaiser Permanente, a rival hospital, for Sammy’s flu-like symptoms.

Anna and Alex were concerned about the quality of care baby Sammy was receiving at Sutter where he was admitted nearly two weeks ago. At one point, Anna questioned the antibiotics Sammy was being given and was alarmed that the nurse administering the treatment didn’t know why the child was receiving them. Anna claims that a doctor later said that Sammy should not have been receiving the medication.

When doctors began discussing the possibility of heart surgery, the parents decided to leave without a proper discharge in order to have the child examined elsewhere.

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It is now May 2nd. Any follow up on this story?

Hearing was scheduled for April 29th.

THIS IS BS!!! IF YOU HAD KID AND YOU THOUGHT THEY WERE IN DANGER

WHAT WOULD YOU DO??? Get a second opinion at the very least???

CONTACT THESE NAZI PRICKS AND GIVE EM A PIECE OF YOUR MIND!!

Administration
Telephone: (916) 875-6091
E-mail: hhs-director@saccounty.net

Behavioral Health Services
E-mail: hhs-bhs@saccounty.net
Alcohol and Drug Services System of Care
Telephone: (916) 874-9754
Mental Health Access Team--Adults
Telephone: (916) 875-1055
TTY/TDD: (916) 874-8070
Mental Health Access Team--Children
Telephone: (916) 875-9980
TTY/TDD: (916) 876-8892
Public Administrator
Telephone: (916) 875-4491
Public Guardian/Conservator
Telephone: (916) 875-4467

Child Protective Services
Child Abuse Hotline: (916) 875-5437
Telephone: (916) 875-0189
E-mail: cpsinternetinfo@saccounty.net,

Medical errors 3rd leading cause of death

This story would be outrageous even *without* the error noticed by the mother, i.e., the baby erroneously given antibiotics. In ANY case with talk of surgery, parents should (at the least) have the right to a second medical opinion. The fact that the mother did have reason to no longer trust the first hospital makes it all the more alarming.

Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death
in the US, Causing 250,000 Deaths Every Year
http://www.joyfulaging.com/iatrogenic.htm

CNN: 10 Shocking Medical Mistakes
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/09/health/medical-mistakes

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

That's not a baby, that's a revenue stream.

Sutter Memorial has a financial interest in the care of the little boy. If the parents attempt to have the costly heart surgery at a more competent hospital across town, Sutter needs to use whatever means available, including threat of deadly force by police, to secure the revenue stream. And it is the job of CPS to guarantee its own revenue stream and the revenue of their health care industry co-conspirators by whatever means necessary, including but not limited to kidnapping and perjury.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

Someone should be fired and sued.

Sounds like you shouldn't go to Sutter Memorial Hospital if you have another hospital available. If Sutter Memorial Hospital's negligence is so great that they are giving the wrong treatments, they are probably making mistakes in their dealings with CPS too.

Kidnapping is a capitol crime demanding life in prison

To fire someone for this is not enough.

Officials that engage in such a crime where the parents are not convicted should receive at minimum the same punishment that the parents were subjected to.

Our public officials need to understand that to accuse someone in court requires them to be punished equally as harsh if the charges do not stand.

We need stronger punishment for the crime of providing false witness. e.g. if a cop provides false witness in a capital murder, the cop should receive the death penalty.

This is actually where the saying "An eye for an eye" comes from, specifically it refers to the wicked who provide false witness in order to have another punished or condemned.

Agreed, and when done by a government 'agency' or official

it is even more criminal, as their purpose for existing in these roles is 'to serve and protect'. I wonder if life in prison is sufficient...., this is one of those rare cases I could see a death penalty (Treason and Murder being the two other cases) being in order.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

This is how they get you

The state requires you to get a license to be married making the couple conracted to the state, requires a birth certificate to ensure your kid pays the 'master and is 'owned' by the state, and then if your state owned kid gets sick, hospitals make the human slave factory (parents) sign all these other contracts at a hospital - contracts no one ever reads because they're so worried and not thinking straight - removing the parents' rights from who they believe to be their own child.
But try explaining to someone that they need to get out of the system when the system is so rigged it's near impossible to escape from.

This is a terribley sad story and I really hope it spreads like wildfire and someone at least gets reprimanded for this obvious case of kidnapping, and somebody somewhere changes whatever needs to be changed so it doesn't happen again.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

How would not having a birth certificate or marriage license...

...have helped this situation?

what Sethster said and more

getting ourselves into 'contracts' - marriage licenses, birth certificates, social security - all these numbers they give us turning us into nothing but a bunch of numbers that they us to control our activities, force legal systems on us, taxes, programs that we don't fully understand by signing our lives away to the state 'authority' or any 'authority'.
A part of me woke up just before I wrote what I did but the haze of this dream is still over me so I can't explain it better. But one day I will be able to.
EDIT: watch this especially from 4:40 onward
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=PN_iN...

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Looks like STM's post was more geared towards

the general ways in which the system wraps it's tentacles around you rather than this specific incident.

Yup

thanks

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Think this news Coverage was fair?

What I found interesting is they seemed to continue to try to find some valid reason for CPS and the police to do what they did.

Another interesting tidbit is that the baby was re-admitted to the original hospital that the parents removed him from.

Can't believe I am going to say this, me thinks the Hospital, not CPS, is the chief culprit in this.

I had DSS show up at my door for my GD years ago. School filed a report.

Told them to get lost. They came back with the cops. Asked them where their judges order was? Said they did not need one. Asked them if they were willing to make that statement on video? Shut the door, came back with a camcorder and asked them to repeat what they said. Their whole story changed. Asked if they could come in and talk with me and my GD? I said not without a judges order. They left.

I found out that they planned on interviewing my GD at school without me being there. I hung a Miranda rights card around her neck and called the school principal. Told him that my GD was informed of her rights and if they attempted to question her without either me or an attorney present I will sue the shit out of them.

Finally got a call from the DSS worker who informed me that it was reported my GD said while visiting with her father, while unsupervised she jumped off a shed and hurt her leg. (she was 12 years old by the way) The biggest surprise to the CPS worker was when she found out it was a 3 foot tall bicycle shed and yes she skinned her knee.

She screened the report out. I asked for a copy and went to speak with the principal and showed him the report. Called me about two weeks later and told me the councilor was no longer employed by the school.

I said that's great but your only problem is you most likely have fifteen more just like her employed there. MY GD is officially out of your school.

The End

This was terrifically handled

This was terrifically handled and my hat is off to you. Way to stand up.

And now for the flip side of the coin.

Two of us witnessed a man playing with a two year old's penis, giving him a hard on. I called CPS, told them who the other witness was. They never even called the other witness. Went to the home, discovered an attorney and Vet lived there, they said I made the story up. Case closed. I had the other witness call them, say "WTF?" They said if he had no NEW info, they were done investigating.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

There is no flip side fishy

they are not about protecting children. They have an agenda. If they encounter someone that has the brains and or the money to fight them, they move on to easier pickings.

The saddest part about making a decision to call DSS/CPS on someone is that you better make dam sure that the abuse the kid is going through is worse than what awaits them in the hands of CPS/DSS.

Fair to conclude that

CPS is a rogue organization which can do no right.

Might not be any governmental body which more urgently needs judicial oversight for every move they make.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

Good Job!!!

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cps better watch it.

gun and ammo purchases are the highest they've ever been... That's just something for them to keep in the back of their heads.

leave our cubs alone or be eaten by the internal lion! RAWR ;)

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

these Gvt terrorists & CPS mothaF___ers are inhuman, & inhumane!

YouTube:

Sacramento CPS Kidnaps Child


http://youtu.be/IzGAEi5cTGM

STOPfluorideSacTown
Published on Apr 26, 2013

Sacramento couple sees their 5-month-old baby after CPS took him following dispute with doctors

SACRAMENTO, CA - When Alex and Anna Nikolayev learned they would have a second one-hour visit Friday at the hospital with their baby boy Sammy, the news came as the one happy moment to cap off a difficult day.

"It's like everything in your stomach is turning and then you see his toothless smile and it kills everything in you ," Anna said, "It was nice. At least for one hour."

Little Sammy has been in protective custody since Wednesday, when police and Child Protective Services took the baby from his mother's arms. The move came a day after the family thought a dispute with Sammy's doctors had been resolved.

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Couple fights to get baby back from CPS, police

On Thursday, the family met with leaders of Sacramento's Slavic community hoping to get help. That resulted in a one-hour visit with Sammy, but the couple's attorney said they were not allowed to see the boy's medical chart. The parents said they did not have a chance to talk to doctors about Sammy's health either.

Then on Friday, the couple and their attorney managed to secure a second one-hour visit with Sammy, but only if they agreed to much stricter pre-conditions.

"She called us back and said we can have this visit at 6 o'clock without any video camera in the room, without taking any pictures," Anna said, describing her conversation with CPS. "My whole family is waiting for pictures in Germany

CPS Takes Child After Mom Gets 2nd Opinion


http://youtu.be/nrtQaxzjv0Y

STOPfluorideSacTown
Published on Apr 26, 2013

SACRAMENTO, CA - A Sacramento family was torn apart after a 5-month-old baby boy was taken from his parents following a visit to the doctor.

The young couple thought their problems were behind them after their son had a scare at the hospital, but once they got home their problems got even worse.

It all began nearly two weeks ago, when Anna Nikolayev and her husband Alex took their 5-month-old boy Sammy to Sutter Memorial Hospital to be treated for flu symptoms, but they didn't like the care Sammy was getting.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

evil..

just plain evil..

Garnet
Daughter of 1776 American Revolutionists

Child Peddling Service

They need more kiddies to sell to their black market.
Until we expose the pedophile ring that was exposed once 30 years ago.... the Franklin Scandal was swept under the rug, not prosecuted... every child in the world is in danger.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

Read about

Nancy Schaefer, she's no longer alive to fight CPS, neither is her husband.

http://familysurvivalprotocol.com/2013/03/20/the-criminal-cp...

You just don't know how angry that makes me.

I am sorry, this issue is the big lump in my throat about Ron Paul. I REALLY wish he would speak up on this issue, but I guess this sort of thing might keep a guy's lips zipped, eh?
If Rand would take this on, I would turn a blind eye to everything else, I would support him all I could. This nonsense of fighting for liberty while pedophiles run the government and the court system is really not something I can "sweep under the rug" for politics.
Amash has been hitting me up for donations. I don't do political donations, but if ANY politician would expose the pedophiles, I'll support them. Friggin' Lindsey Graham could get my support at this point. Everybody is so OK with compromising my rights, I'll compromise everything to get the Goddamned pedophiles OFF OUR CHILDREN.

Love or fear? Chose again with every breath.

So wrong

They need to be sued. Brutally, ruthlessly sued.

When the people are no longer considered capable...

...of making the proper choices for themselves and their families, then the government will be able to do anything to them and claim that it is in their "best interest."