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SWAT officer describes neck wound on CNN. Watch others reaction

Boston SWAT team describes throat wound as a knife cut.


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Whatever Rachel Maddow

Whatever Rachel Maddow says...

Clearly the others were taken aback

by what was said about the wound. Why that was the case I doubt we'll ever know.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

ALL OF YOU HAVE IT ALL WRONG!!!!

What really happened is that the guy in front let a nasty one go. What you've witnessed was just their reactions to the pungent odor. The guy in the back is like "wtf sarge" cause he caught it full blast on the intake.

Look like feds

In halloween costumes.

Whoever made this YouTube

Whoever made this YouTube video has some imagination. The guys don't look suspicious or look like they are mouthing some "truth" like the guy who is talking is lying. This video is trying to stir up fear to the weak minded people who will believe it. Sorry but it's true.

i agree, although i still

i agree, although i still find it an odd thing a coincedental thing,

Could be something as innocent as

"Shoot! Sarge, i forgot to put the mens clothes in the washer"
"now? NOW, you want to talk about the mens clothes"
cadet looks at camera, looks away
"sorry sarge"
*sarge facial facepalm

or could be something
"sarge, i thought we were'nt releasing that, yet"

the little things count, there doesnt have to be an illuminate confession behind every blip....

in the end, what i get from this clip, is something out of the ordinary, and a "wish i knew why" question in my mind, with the expectation of not ever finding out the answer......if thats how it is, then thats how it is, i wont champion infringing on those who may be innocent.....if theres a way to do it without infringing, fair play

i understand what your saying, and i agree completly, for balance's sake, we should always balance both sides.......TO ANYTHING, as best we can

5 things I find really interesting about this

1. Location of the wound. He shows the wound on the side of his throat, rather than were the voice box would be so why would his speech be impaired.

2. He says it was slice and not a gun shot wound....one more lie for the pile

3. He says it was probably from the night before, which would likely mean it had stopped bleeding

4. He says it was likely shrapnel from "the expulsions that we were using the night before" ???? Why were they using explosions???

5. The guys behind him were clearly unnerved by the information he was relaying because they go from staring straight ahead to eyeballing eachother

Wow. That was amazing...

Wow.

That was amazing... Truly. I mean, so super revealing. Eyewitness testimony is always the most reliable, which makes this the smoking gun!

I'm sure we'll get right to the bottom of things now based on an inconclusive description of a neck wound and casual glances between rank and file officers who were probably crapping themselves over being on national television.

End sarcasm.

"...especially this guy..."

"...who does actually mouth something to the others..."

He said the word "shrapnel", aloud, effectively feeding it to the spokesman.

For one thing, he motions to the RIGHT SIDE of the face!

It was the LEFT SIDE OF THE BOY'S FACE that had all the blood on it.

All the men looked at each other, as if he was NOT TELLING the truth. And, THAT we know is true.

SOMEONE, an FBI agent himself, probably took a knife or a gun & hit him, shot him, knifed him, but I'm sure I heard 3 gun shots after the boy got out of the boat.

However, IF those men took him down, handcuffed him, well, I'd sure like to interview them.

HOW DO WE GET AHOLD OF THESE GUY'S NAMES & CONTACT INFORMATION?

Please for the love of

Please for the love of government, have these fellas behind you whenever you make public statements

Regulation
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Damn, didnt even have time to read the bill!

These cops are particularly dirty. Look at these ruthless thugs.

They have about as much compassion as a bunch of large feeding crocodiles.

These are the guys the mob used to call to have someone disappear or break knee caps.

Why do we pay people to be @ssholes in the first place. Why do we pay @ssholes to be cops.

I ran across this this week. It makes me wonder if good

is absent because His children are failing here:

1 Timothy 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

I also found this this week and wonder if I have been deceived by patriotism in more than one way:

http://www.anabaptists.org/history/anabaptists-during-revolu...

I feel a little confused as I think about the Revolutionary War and the patriotism it is supposed to inspire. Why was that war OK?

http://www.marchtozion.com/blog/606-baptist-skepticism-of-th... In writing of a great revival in the area, James Manning, an English Baptist preacher, wrote the following to a fellow minister in November 1776, "the fatal 19th of April the day of the Lexington battle, like an electric stroke put a stop to the progress of the work, as well as in other places as here. Oh horrid war! How contrary to the spirit of Jesus!"

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Spoken like a true Christian

Not.

Judge not lest ye be judged, Trenton.

Please listen with an open heart and an open mind.


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Judging others about not judging never grows old

Two comments.

1. Mike (I changed your name on purpose, to be equally disrespectful, as you deserve none from the comment you just made) -

Only God judges his own servants about whether they are Christians or not. Only God.

Your constant attempts to combine eastern mysticism and using an occult symbol - a tarot card, dismays me. But placing yourself up as God, like satan does, is too much - only God judges someone is his servant and a Christian or not. Not satan. Certainly not you. The person you talked to is certainly a lot better than you are - he's been saved, and saved for awhile. What is your purpose to constantly attack Christians on this site as "not being Christians"? Because it is certainly unbecoming.

2. To First poster - appealtoheaven, might watch your cussing. I've allowed myself to cuss a little bit last few weeks too - which I never do in real life. It's from keeping bad company (bad company corrupts good manners) - and that bad company is on here.

It's no excuse, but I have high blood pressure, and it's easier just to release on it than deal with those who are just acting rude. Basically two different standards, but you'll be sure to be blamed if you devolve to the standards of bad company.

But that is no excuse to put up with this juudging by non-Christians. We aren't even suppose to judge each other in regards to our servant status. Only God judges his servants. In fact, only God is the supreme judge. God bless brother.

James 4:
10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. 11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

1 Corinthians 15:33
Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. 34Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

Also

Do not be deceived: "Bad company corrupts good morals."

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

This is what I am hearing when I hear Gandhi's words:

You Christians sure don't act like Christ. I think it is a fair critism, not a judgement. I don't know what caused Gandhi to say those words, but I think it is worth finding out. People are supposed to know Christ's disciples because of their love.

The other thing, I realize it is dismaying to see non-Christians not acting like you think they should act. But what do you expect? They are not followers of Christ so why should they act like Christians? Why would you even expect a non-Christian to act like a Christian is supposed to act?

This is how a Christian is supposed to act:

Acts 24:16 KJV
And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and toward men.

IMO, non-Christians should only be offended by a Christian's love, not a holier-than-thou attitude. And that is the reason, IMO that people are supposed to leave people alone when they do not want to hear.

Luke 9:5 KJV
And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.

The testimony will be that they did not want to hear, not that you wore out your welcome. There are people who have let me know they don't want me to talk "religion" with them. Guess what. I don't. I still love them. They are people. I don't know God's plan for their lives, but I am not going to be a hindrance to it. They have set a boundary and I respect that boundary. They may still hate me, but it will not be because of me, it will be because of Christ in me.

Romans 13:8 KJV
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

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Actually, the verse you are

Actually, the verse you are thinking of is - their love for each other.

Last part of the verse seems highly relevant to this discussion.

John 13:31
Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him. 32If God be glorified in him, God shall also glorify him in himself, and shall straightway glorify him. 33Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you. 34A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

A bad sign is when a Christian isn't loving other Christians. Other Christians are special. They are who you are suppose to separate yourselves with. They are your brothers and sisters, bought with the blood of the Lamb. Praise God!

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Yes, Our love one to another.

you are correct. By this all men will know that you are my disciples if you have love one to another. So the diciples were to be known by their love to believers.

But also

Romans 13:9...Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

So I ask, Who is a neighbor?

By the way, the best judging,

By the way, the best judging, that no one ever seems to notice, is judging yourself and amending your own ways on your day to day discussions with the Lord.

It's how I decided I needed to stop the appearance of cussing, even though it's been only the last few weeks.

1 Corinthians 11:31
For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Sorry Michael but the bible says other things too..

It says that His true saints are to be able to judge the entire world, and it scolds those who can not or will not discern and choose to defer instead their decisions to the pagans and ruthless men such as these.

1 Corinthians 6:1-11

1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? 2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? 4 If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? 5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!

7 Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

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I take those words in a future sense:

and the way I am hearing you: "It says that His true saints are to be able to judge the entire world"

I am hearing you say that His Saints currently judge the world.

The verse does not say "His true saints are able to judge the entire world." The verse says "2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world?"

We will judge the world then. We do not judge the world now.

Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

And also see a caution here:

Jude 1:8 Likewise also these [filthy] dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durstnot bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

When the saints come with the Lord, the saints will no longer be coming no longer as mortals. We will be as He is.

1 Corinthians 13:12 KJV
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

1 John 3:2 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

I may have misunderstood you, but wanted to clarify incase someone else reads as I did. It is my understanding that any judging by the Saints will be in the future and the saints will be as Jesus Christ is...knowing.

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Sometimes I have some things

Sometimes I have some things pretty hard to explain. My relationship with God I think is pretty normal, he answers my prayers, he speaks to me in my heart, he inspires me in my spirit.

So I don't know if this was a vision or a dream, and I use to discount things like this from others, but one time in my imagination I was getting pretty mad at the devil, and was about to rebuke him, when he started crying like a baby, then an older woman, friendly angel type, said hurriedly "Oh hush, he's cute". Startled me so much, I forgot about wanting to accuse him.

No, I don't believe that was the real devil. But there was something startling, and humorous about this. I still haven't really worked through it or make a decision about it. But I haven't wanted to bring railing accusations as much lately, both from that and other things. God working on me.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

"God working on me"

My life verse:

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

FWIW

fuck the bible and the winged-horse it rode in on.

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The only problem is...

I don't see any "saints" around here qualified to judge anybody.

Just sayin', including myself.

Agree/disagree? Fine. Like/dislike? OK. Judge? No.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

You are exactly right.. 1 Corinthians 6 eludes to this too.

What we have are a bunch of (false) Christians in most every church...

4 If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? 5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!

Christ himself proclaimed it then, and it can only be worse now. There is no understanding, there is no discernment... Even the Church usurps what authority it was not given and defers it to a pagan authority.

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I tried to vote you up

but my vote didn't change you from -1 to 0. So I tried voting you down. It changed the -1 to a -3. So I voted back up and score changed from a -3 to -1. For some reason the vote count will not go up.

A few years ago I realized how much love was talked about for Christians. It was interesting to me that very little is said about how Christians should be treating other people in my experience.

Jesus said all the law and prophets hang on 2 tings:

Love God
Love your neighbor as yourself.

So then one of the lawyers wants to know...who is my neighbor. Jesus told the story of the good Samaritan. The Jews hated the Samaritans. They wouldn't even travel thru their land. It happens that comeone got attacked by robbers and 2 people walked by and didn't help the man. Only the Samaritan helped the me. He picked him up, put him on his donkey and took him to an inn and nursed his health. Then he gave the innkeeper money to keep the man and said he would pay the rest when he returned if there was a balance due.

The 2 that walked by...I am gong to go look up who they were so I get it right: a priest and the other was a Levite...two religious people...the person that helped, oh he was the despised by the religious: a Samaritan...half-breed Jews. They were hated by the religious. The story is in Luke 10:25-37

Jesus ends the story with a question as to who was the neighbor and also gave a direction to do likewise.

36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? 37And he said , He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and dothou likewise.

Michael, Jesus also says that on the day of judgement many will tell all they did for Jesus and Jesus will say, depart from me. I never knew you. The Bible tell that if people don't love their brother who they have seen they cannot love God who they cannot see. And if one does not love then one does not know God.

It is no wonder that Gandhi liked Jesus, but not Christians. Not all who call themselves Christians are what they say.

And here you, someone not raised as a Christian are having to tell "Christians" so.

Jesus said by our love one to another people will know we are his disciples. Perhaps there was no love shown for Gandhi to see?

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Ghandi encouraged millions to go to hell

"It is no wonder that Gandhi liked Jesus, but not Christians".

Ghandi didn't like Jesus or Christians. "As you have done to the least of these, you have done to me."

I take this was a divide and conquer strategy. It certainly wasn't a true statement. Jesus says anyone that loves him will keep his word. Gandhi never believed Jesus, he never repented, and believed in his heart or confessed with his mouth Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. He died in his sins, never a witness.

And Gandhi is a leading anti-Christ teacher that has encouraged millions to hell with his teachings.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

I should have said "because" instead of placing a period:

My words:
"It is no wonder that Gandhi liked Jesus, but not Christians. Not all who call themselves Christians are what they say."

should have been:

"It is no wonder that Gandhi liked Jesus, but not Christians, because not all who call themselves Christians are what they say.

MaxK, there are wolves in sheeps clothing that may send more to hell then Gandhi did, if that is what Gandhi did (I really haven't studied Gandhi or what he did). And those wolves in sheeps clothing call themselves Christians.

Jesus says basically the same thing:

Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

There are going to be people who did lots of stuff in Jesus' name and who think that they were his who he does not even know. I wonder if any of those are the people that Gandhi saw?

What I hear Gandhi saying is that he liked the words of Jesus. But he see how people who called themselves Christians act, and they are not acting like Jesus. And if that is the case, the "Christians" were either not Christians at all, or they were a bad testimony because their works did not match the words of Jesus. That is all I am hearing. That makes me evaluate myself. I wonder how non-Christians see me? Do they see Christ?

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Gandhi wasn't the greatest

Gandhi wasn't the greatest person in the world; I wish people would quit using him as a reference. Gandhi instituted the Hindu caste system once the British rule dispersed. The Hindu caste system is more restrictive on the grounds of individual liberty than socialism. In the Hindu cast system if you are of a lower caste, and your father was a shoemaker, guess what you would be when you grew up? If you guessed a shoemaker then you would be correct. The people didn't have a choice, with the exception of the higher-level caste such as a Brahman, which were the highest of the high -they're supposedly descendants of the God Brahma.

The Hindu caste system is based on an assumption that lies at odds with the assumption of Western democratic ideals: that all people are created equal.

Of course, caste is more than just a division of labor. It also entails a hierarchy. The hierarchy of caste is not based on wealth. It is founded on purity. Those at the top of the social ladder are regarded as more spiritually pure than those at the bottom. The entire system is thus a gradient of purity.

Here are two good websites to understand the Hindu caste system which Gandhi was a proud supporter of.

The Caste System This is where the two quotes are from.
Hinduism and Caste System

The quotes following are from Hinduism and Caste System:

Caste System has been the bane of Hindu society for centuries. In terms of impact, it did much greater damage for a much longer period to a great many people than the slave system of the western world or the witch-hunting practices of medieval Europe. The Hindu caste system was a clever invention of the later Vedic society, justified by a few law makers. The upper castes found it convenient to retain and perpetuate their social and religious distinction and political and economic advantage.

Brahmins. They are the priestly class, who are entitled to study the Vedas, perform rites and rituals for themselves and for others and obliged to observe the sacraments. They are the middle men between gods and men.

Kshatriyas. They are the warrior class, who are commanded (by tradition) to protect the people, bestow gifts to the brahmins, offer sacrifices to gods and ancestors, study the Vedas, dispense justice, and, according to Manusmriti, abstain themselves from sensual pleasures.

Vaishyas: They are the merchant and peasant classes, who are expected to tend cattle, offer sacrifices, study the Vedas, trade, lend money and cultivate the land. They had the right to perform and participate in certain vedic rituals but they were not allowed to marry women of higher castes.

Shudras: The are the labor class, whose only duty is to serve the other three castes. They were not required to observe any vedic rituals or samskaras except a few. They were not allowed to study the vedas or even hear the sacred chants. They were not allowed to eat food in the company of higher castes or marry their women.

Chandalas: The lowest of the sudras were called chandalas or the impure ones. They were treated as untouchables because of their gory religious practices, penchant for sacrifices, magical rites and unclean habits. In ancient times they were not allowed to enter a village or city during day time or walk in the same street where men of other castes walked. Even their shadow was considered impure and their very sight as a bad omen. So they lived mostly on the fringes of society, unknown and uncared for, following some esoteric religion of their own and working mostly in the graveyards and cremation grounds or as hunters, butchers and professional cleaners of human waste.