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Where are all the civil liberties attorneys

Where is the outrage over the police stat in Boston?

Where are all the civil liberties attorneys?

How long before someone brings about a class action suit for the violation of peoples' privacy with all the warrantless searches that took place?

Hello Boston.... Are you there? Anyone awake?

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Was discussing something similar with my brother.

Where are all the hippies and their anti-war and anti-establishment rhetoric. What happened? Did they all get jobs and get sucked into the system?

The ACLU was destroyed by GOP and neocons.

During the early part of last decade emails belittling the ACLU were the joke of the day.

Contributions plummeted while laws were passed right and left that violated almost every enumerated right established by the Constitution.

Perhaps Franklin was right. We deserve neither liberty nor security. We just get terrorized and looted to feed Congressional addictions to power, money and fame.

When will we ever learn.

Free includes debt-free!

probably won't be any attorneys

Since they can claim the NDAA makes it "legal". An individual will have to sue for rights violations against the unlawfulness of the NDAA and it doesn't look like that's gonna happen, either. None of the Bill of Rights are subject to the feds limitations and exceptions, it's a matter of how long the american people continue to tolerate it.

Liiiving In Exile ...

... where the door remained unclosed.

http://www.classicreader.com/book/229/1/

... and if they didn't leave the law, rather, the law left them ?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGJ-Ug7tI0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatc...

There is NO MONEY or POWER in protecting civil liberties

Civil liberties are only available when the government fears the people when the people are armed to the teeth.

Our government has gone Schizo on attack while fearing no one.

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Lawyers Have To Get Paid

The current legal system is designed to require you to support the monopoly by hiring one of their boys. When you can't get one to effectively file claims for you, paper protections are useless - leading to fiat justice.

That is why we need a citizen's operated legal system.

Most people understand the difference between right and wrong. There should be no need to study boring judge-made law to successfully engage in basic lawsuits that are based on simple violations of natural rights (and not judge-made fiat civil rights).

Gene Louis
http://www.survivaloftheslickest.com/
Supporting a Needed Tool for Government Feedback:
A Citizen-Operated Legal System.

SEVEN attorneys have dropped my friends case - no money.

They whitewash it: There are not enough damages to warrant the time and effort they would have to put into the case. They don't come right out and say "It's a shame they did not kill one of you, or at least put you in a hospital for a few weeks to run up a nice bill" but that is what they say for all intents and purposes. All that happened was the goon squad showed up, roughed up you and your wife, did a warrant-less search of your home, and terrorized you with a gun to your head? Sorry, none of that pays enough to defend you.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

When you say dropped

you probably mean "didn't take the case in the first place." I've practiced for a long time and never have seen a case with seven lawyers that were actually retained.

Here is an unfortunate reality of our system: Lawyers have to eat, so they chase after cases that are profitable. Now, if you can pay for a lawyer's time to pursue such a case, you can probably find one. But as the work may be substantial (opposing motions to dismiss in a case like this, especially, plus discoveyr then trial preparation), you should have at least about $20k on hand to fight it. If you do, you;ll find plenty of lawyers. If you don;t, the only way to get paid is on a contingency, which means it has to be a really strong case since you'll have to work it without getting paid for well over a year. Sorry, but that is the reality.

If you want to proceed in pro se/ pro per, you had best read the case of Ashcroft v. Iqbal, re pro per litigants are held to teh same pleading standards as attorneys.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Lawyers have to eat???

Do lawyers HAVE to have six Jaguars and three vacation houses? Nice excuse but your point is moot. Orly Taitz Esq. has been litigating against Obama, his stolen SSN, his fraudulent passport, all of his several fake birth certificates, Eric Holder and the entire injustice Department, other crooked attorneys (like-you) filing bogus law suits against her, her stolen Senate election in CA, activist judges protecting TPTB, etc. etc. etc. for well over 5 YEARS now PRO BONO. So what's your excuse again? Oh yeah, food. I'm a free-market capitalist but stop blowing smoke and just admit it's all about money and profit at everyone else's expense. Those of us reading dailypaul are here because we are not stupid. So stop lying.

Do you work for free?

Otherwise, you are a hypocrite.

Free includes debt-free!

Agreed, sort of

lawyers dont need six jaguars. I know of no lawyer who owns six jaguars. I know of a jaguar mechanic who owns seven, and they are all junk. This lawyer owns an old toyota.

Orly Taitz makes a living practicing dentistry and loses all her cases. REally fricking bad example. So, I am "crooked" and I have sued Orly? I can tell you without a doubt I have never litigated against her in any case, that is something I would remember. That is news to me! LOL Typical low brow internet hostilities - tell somehow the truth, they don;t like it and try to shoot the messenger.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

No Damages? Really?

I'd say there are PLENTY of damages, at least if you look at it for what it is, an invasion of our rights BIG TIME! Another chunk taken out of our freedom, another message being sent that it's okay to screw us over and bully us. Aren't those stupid lawyers worried about living in a police state too? What about their kids and grandkids? Don't THEY have to live here too?

skippy

Silly rabbit, loss of liberty is not "damage."

If you can't put a FRN value on it, it is not damage.
I'm sorry, I am MORE than cynical on this. I have met several attorneys who I THOUGHT might be good people, but when the tough get going, the attorneys evaporate into thin air. I have NEVER met an attorney willing to stand up for what is RIGHT, if it involved any risk to them. They live in fear of being "censured" and losing the respect of their fellow attorneys, and there is NOTHING that is more important than having the other slugs respect you... so you can keep being a slug and charging people outrageous fees to NOT defend them, but try to reach a settlement as quickly as they can.
There was a Ron Paul supporter, got himself elected to State office. I liked him, thought he was a pretty good guy. He would not even TALK to my friends about their case. Elections coming up, don't ya know?

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

Orly Taitz Esq has done it for 5+ years now

Do lawyers HAVE to have six Jaguars and three vacation houses? No they don't so their point is moot. Orly Taitz Esq. has been litigating against Obama, his stolen SSN, his fraudulent passport, all of his several fake birth certificates, Eric Holder and the entire injustice Department, other crooked attorneys (like-Dave) filing bogus law suits against her, her stolen Senate election in CA, activist judges protecting TPTB, etc. etc. etc. for well over 5 YEARS now PRO BONO. So what's their excuse again? Oh yeah, food. I'm a free-market capitalist but DaveIsSkeptical needs to stop blowing smoke on here and just admit it's all about greedy profit. And it's not just everyone else's expense, it's the Constitution's expense. Every time these scum lawyers snub their nose at these civil liberty cases more and more of the Constitution dies and our freedoms right along with it. They do not have the brain capacity to realize that it's not just ONE PERSON they are fighting for. They are fighting for humanity but they don't see it like that. They see a new gold watch, a new helicopter for their yacht on their private lake. Orly is an immigrant and has done more for this nation than Dave and all his ilk combined. Dave needs to go look in the mirror, then apologize to God for willfully assisting Obama to usher in satan's agenda to enslave humanity for eternity. Thanks Dave.

Indeed.

Orly is unique. She fights for justice. We see how far she gets.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

sorry, gots to go fuel my helicopter

and My gold watch is starting to chafe. See, my skin is easily irritated because I am a shape shifting lizard, and whilst quaffing expensive champagne with my illuminati brethren last even, I accidentally turned into a big ass Gila Monster! Oh the trauma. I truly must be going, my E - Type awaits! tootles!

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Yep, exactly what I thought

Not one rational counter argument as to why Orly Taitz Esq. can do it (for 5+ years) PRO BONO but none of the other thousands and thousands of well-connected highly-educated lawyers can. With that rational I'm not really convinced you're a lawyer. Oh I forgot, you're not being paid. I guess your brain doesn't work without money in your pocket. LOL

He did answer

"Orly Taitz makes a living practicing dentistry and loses all her cases."

like I said

She has never lost a case based on the merits of the arguments. She has only lost by decree of the gatekeepers preventing justice. Case in point, even Kagan did not recuse herself from the obamacare decision (and she helped draft it). There are corrupt gatekeepers at all the highest levels. But go ahead and keep bashing the immigrant who is the only person fighting for your Constitution. Traitor!

answer

Orly loses

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

at least she's in the trenches

Orly loses because she is fighting the entire corrupt system alone because scared little puppies like you are too afraid to put your livelihood on the line. And she doesn't lose based on the merits, she only loses based on the corrupt gate keepers, who by the way have a much easier time when only a few brave lawyers stand up to them while the others cower in the shadows.

well

Taking cases and losing them does not help.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

what you mean is

You mean taking cases and losing and not getting a big pay day does not help your wallet?

logically speaking

I can speak for all of us on this point, not just lawyers. Yes, it is true, and can be scientifically proven, that not getting paid is harmful to one's financial health.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

harmful to your health

Sorry but I don't know anyone who has ever died because they couldn't buy another jet for their aircraft carrier or another Bugatti for their convoy of exotic toys or another beach house to spend the entire winter sunbathing. And last I checked, Orly is not dead. She is tired and worn, but what do you expect when her colleagues spend more time making excuses on the dailypaul for not taking cases than actually taking them? LOL

oh well there is that

but tell me, my good chap, does Orly have a blood-powered helicopter? I think NOT! Harrumph!

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

No I need blood too

I prefer type O positive, thank you very much!

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

gosh taht soundrel

Why he should put your friend's case, which likely involves no damages and no possible recovery, as a priority over feeding himself and his family! Since you cannot afford to pay him, he should do it out of his own pocket! Why he should even front costs! Whether or not he likes you or agrees with your case! This is America! Who does he think he is? He should be forced to work for you for free!

ROFL so much for the free market,,,,

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Payment was offered for the services.

Why do you make assumptions? And you are making my point: They do not care about civil liberties, they do not care about rights being violated, they do not care about people being injured by police. They care how much money they can make. Glad you are so amused by that. Wait till you need justice, lets see if you find it funny then.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

define payment

Did you try to barter them in day old fish? Did you want to pay them $100 a month for 18 years? Maybe you just had a disagreement on terms, then? Remember the free market? Oh yeah!

As for me, my helicopter runs on blood and I need to fund my eight - no NINE Jaguars

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein