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The Way It Should Be? ReasonTV: DIY Law Enforcement in Cash-Strapped Oregon County

DIY Law Enforcement in Cash-Strapped Oregon County


Published on May 1, 2013

"They will not send an officer out, so we are on our own totally," says Sam Nichols, co-founder of Citizens Against Crime. CAC is a group of around 20 armed volunteers who have been conducting routine patrols in and around O'Brien, Oregon since last summer. CAC patrols "are always a minimum of two people," says Nichols, precisely because they want to avoid the kind of thing "that happened in Florida, the case where Zimmerman shot the boy."

Why are the citizens of O'Brien patrolling their own streets? Josephine County is a rural area in south western Oregon with serious budget problems. Back in 1916, the federal government bought up millions of acres of land that had been owned by the railroads. The move left 18 Oregon counties without a significant source of property tax revenue. To make up for the lost taxes, the feds began giving the Oregon counties a share of the timber revenues in 1937. The program worked until environmental regulations severely curtailed logging in Oregon. By 1998, timber revenues had dropped to just a third of what they were in 1989. Temporary federal timber subsidies filled the gap, but those subsidies were phased out last year.

This year, Josephine County slashed its public safety budget from $20 million to less than $9 million. As a result, the county was forced to release 39 prisoners, including people charged with assault, burglary and rape. Only three sheriffs patrol Josephine County, an area larger than Rhode Island, and those sheriffs only respond to life-threatening calls.

The self-reliant folks who live in Josephine County aren't likely to raise their own taxes any time soon, but lots of citizens are willing to do their part to deter criminal activity. Sam Nichols and the other members of Citizens Against Crime strap on guns, turn on flashing lights mounted on their vehicles and keep an eye out for suspicious activity. Former deputy sheriff Carol Dickson maintains a Facebook page called To Catch a Thief as a kind of virtual neighborhood watch program. The page currently has more than 1600 followers.

"Some people are taking the law into their own hands, which obviously scares the heck out of me," says Josephine County Sheriff Gil Gilbertson. But because of the severity of Josephine County's budget problems, Gilbertson isn't complaining too loudly. As he puts it, "law enforcement in this community is weak at best."

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Produced by Paul Feine and Alex Manning.

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CAC Suckers, still pigs

These cock suckers are still pigs. Scumbags just don't learn to mind their own business. What kind of suspicious activity are they patrolling for? kids in hoodies?

Citizen patrol groups are just an opportunity for more self-appointed scum.

Public "law enforcement" undermines true self defense.

My Wife And I Shop In Josephine County, Oregon, Very Often.

The CROOKS know there is very little law enforcement, and they come from far away to practice their dishonesty.

While shopping recently, I saw an old pickup with California license plates with 2 middle aged males going through the large shopping center parking lot getting out of the truck, and in broad day light searching for valuables in unattended vehicles, along with trying vehicle door handles.

My wife takes a long time to shop, so I observed them for about 1 hour changing locations in the parking lot and watching their criminal activity. When my wife came out I told her what was happening, but there were "NO" cops anywhere. I also told her we should start carrying, to which she agreed.

My neighbor says concealed permits are very easy to obtain in Oregon, and this was from a family that has 2 active state police troopers, currently employed.

Why doesn't Josephine County have enough money????

My answer is; Because bureaucrats, environmentalists, and others, are preventing the development of almost "ALL" natural resources, including mining of all types, small home businesses,and innovation of all types.

Thanks for the video.



have capitalists exploit the lands natural resources to keep you safe. your story sounds super solid btw.

That's beautiful. This is the

That's beautiful. This is the way communities should be policed!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Yeah, the way it should be.

Here is what happens when you fund the terrorists:

I am SO PISSED OFF right now.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

As long as cool heads prevail,

this seems like a great idea. Waiting for someone else to protect you is, well, dumb. Letting potential criminals know you are protecting yourself and your community is wise.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

In my small town

the fire department is 100% volunteer. All the money they need are raised through bake sales, chicken bbq's, and a small $20 per person yearly "contribution" tax that is added to your property tax.

I've never understood why police patrol couldn't be volunteer as well. If we trust volunteer untrained men to drive around giant trucks, put out fires, and chop through houses with axes, surely we could trust volunteers to patrol our streets.

My town has a population of rougly 900 people, and yet we have three police officers on duty at all times. Their main job is to hang out at the convience store eating and drinking coffee, or pull people over for speeding (35 in a 25 mostly). Volunteers could do without the speeding offenses and focus on safety without having to fill a quota.

100% agree.

frankly, govt (supposedly as one of consent of the governed BS), police don't have any powers we didn't delegate them, so legal doctrine-wise, they really are essentially glorified 'volunteer' citizen patrols, because we gotta make a living and can't run biz while doing patrols 24/7/365. LOL: well, in theory, anyway.

seriously, other than very specialized roles that need continuous evolution of knowledge and techniques (homicide investigation, CSI (within reason; all evidence should have a 100% 3rd party and continuous transparent chain of custody; for more click on the 1st link below), REAL hostage rescues, not SWAT, and regional bombsquads, etc.) it's high time we abolish the very notion of 'police':

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

That is a good idea as local

That is a good idea as local people are more accountable to their community as well.

The only problem is that while firemen are usually called upon in rare contingencies. The role of the police also includes deterrence which makes it fundamentally different from that of firefighters.

Since no one will do a full time job voluntarily without pay, a system with salary, benefits etc has to be in place. If the town is doing that they may as well just have a regular cop.

Idaho has the same problem

and they're trying to take some of that land back from the Feds.

The sheriff should just go

The sheriff should just go ahead and deputize them.

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Good for them! Yeah it scares

Good for them! Yeah it scares the hell out of that Sheriff because those folks might just realize they don't need him at all!

End The Fat
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Get Prepared!

It scares the Sheriff the

It scares the Sheriff the same way the minutemen scare border patrol. It is a legitimate concern.

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Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a


Will Grigg: KEEP the Gun, and take the Cannoli; Abolish the Police!

Submitted by AnCapMercenary on Mon, 07/30/2012 - 12:17

Keep the Guns; Abolish the Police

Posted by William Grigg on July 30, 2012 01:14 AM

On July 23 New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, one of the most implacably totalitarian figures in American political history, suggested that police nationwide should go on strike until the law-abiding public disarms itself.

“I don’t understand why the police officers in this country don’t stand up collectively and say, `we’re going to go on strike,” Bloomberg blurted in an interview with CNN’s Piers Morgan. “We’re not going to protect you unless you — the public — through your legislature do what’s required to keep us safe. After all, police officers want to go home to their families.”

Bloomberg sheepishly revised his comments a few days later — but not before an unidentified cop in Portland, Oregon acted on his suggestion, thereby offering a splendid illustration of the fact that given our choice, we should keep our guns and abolish the police.

My take? DITTO!


In a truly, supposed, free society (which we obviously are not, but most of the sheeple pretend it still is), it should be an appalling idea to any sentient being to have a group of armed employees who delude they can lord over us, patrol over us, and dictate the behaviors of their own supposed employers! Worse, they use our own STOLEN wealth to fund our own oppression, 'for our own good.'

Our future progeny will look back on this epoch in human history as the most astonishingly befuddling, unfathomable, strange, and abominable, that we'd ALLOW such insanity to persist, so willfully.

IF they had to have a legitimate role, it should ONLY be to report and write down an incident. I'm from a generation that still remembers that a cop actually had to have a complainant make a charge, before the cop's role could be activated: a completely foreign concept to the sheeple in the post-9/11 policestate.

Even in the utterly fraudulent 'judicial' paradigm that persists today, legally speaking, their roles are still only technically activated only AFTER a crime has occurred visibly in front of their immediate vicinity, or has been reported by a citizen.

Their technical roles are nothing more than a post-crime report/recording agency, so the citizenry can have an impartial third party be a referee and a witness, at least in theory.

But that has NEVER been the case: their sole role has always only been to keep the peons inline, on behalf of their commissar bosses, ie. PURELY a political police, nothing more, nothing less.

Besides, even as is, the SCOTUS has ruled time and time again that cops are "NOT REQUIRED to protect" the citizenry. So just WTF do we 'need' them for, anyway?

Now the tail is wagging the dog, itself. In this current era of asking what the fundamental role of govt is, if it even has one, it's high time everyone asks whether they're the purveyors of peace, or purveyors and institutionalization of evil.

Think it's becoming more and more ubiquitously clear to even the most misinformed statist braindead zombie, that the latter is the reality, as more and more daily, what seems like a national pandemic of copthuggery becomes the norm.

If what seems like 100+ Rodney King videos per day, uploaded onto YouTube don't wake up the TV-nation zombies, don't know what will.

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul