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Rand Paul Goes Neocon For Israel

The National Review has an article up today quoting Rand and his shocking comments after he returned from a trip to Israel. It’s like he skipped the actual trip to the Middle East, and instead was hijacked away to a Neocon brainwashing fortress, where he was indoctrinated in all of their beliefs about our ally in the region. Senator Paul’s remark:

Absolutely we stand with Israel. What I think we should do is announce to the world — and I think it is pretty well known — that any attack on Israel will be treated as an attack on the United States.

This is Neoconservative to the very core, and a position that brings bile to the throats of libertarians, especially since Rand has flip flopped on the issue since his early days. I have already written about Israel previously, and about the nefarious AIPAC, during our answering of Ron Paul’s 32 Questions. My stance on Israel is clear in that I don’t support the U.S. funding Israel, nor backing their aggression in the Gaza Strip. In no way should there be a standing agreement that Israel will always have the military support of the United States, especially when Israel is far richer, far more weaponized and far more aggressive than it’s neighbors. It’s fine having an ally – everyone needs friends after all…but to claim, as Rand has here, that an attack on Israel is an attack on the U.S. (and thus will be an act of war upon us, essentially) is ridiculous.

The Review writer goes on to connect the dots concerning Rand’s ambitions, citing that he took this trip with a man that she refers to as an “Evangelical Kingmaker” by the name of David Lane
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why

does this make me so angry,,, i just read the headline and in my head said---figures

i asked myself why does every media person, tv, news, journo's , pols etc always praise israel---unquestioning support
the answer--- they own our gov't to a degree

but why do i hate israel,,,, or maybe dislike

i realized i don't hate the people of israel,,,, i hate their gov't and their manipulators that got us to this point

a light bulb went off--- in that is how many others,, some terrorists, some not, feel for our country and for the exact same reason

People here need to learn how to play with others

We need allies anywhere we can take them. I welcome neocons to my group and encourage critical thinking. We must learn to play with others, if we are both set in our ways, we will fight about the other issues later. Stop building divides an learn to teach an create some lasting results.

He is our most recognized ally right now, unless you can get someone to take his place, just be quite, your not helping anything.

Yeah, you play with neocons as they

thump their bibles and cheer on the murder of innocent men, women, and children. I have too much honor to "play" with neocons. Their policies are killing people EVERYDAY.

Ron spoke the TRUTH

and built the Liberty Movement. Rand bowing to the criminal warmongers is building nothing but a pile of dung. Rand has sold out and is not capable of leading the real Liberty Movement. Period.

What do you want him to do?

What do you want him to do? Say Israel should be left to fend for themselves, and the United States doesn't have their back anymore?

Because that's the political alternative.

Where will that get us?

Nowhere.

Rand is doing excellent job on the political trapeze.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

3 downvotes and more coming,

3 downvotes and more coming, but WHY?

PLEASE answer my question instead of clicking on a mouse.

What do you want him to do?

What do you want him to say?

Tell Israel to go to hell? Get lost? Find a new friend? We're not your ally anymore?

Isn't this issue a catch 22? He's screwed both ways.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

He should honestly and forthrightly say

that the purpose of the American military is to defend THE TERRITORY OF THE UNITED STATES against attack by a foreign power, nothing more, nothing less. If you really believe he is screwed both ways, why not just choose the morally and ethically superior way and TELL THE TRUTH.

I upvoted you. Here's what I would say:

"We absolutely and unequivocally recognize Israel's right to exist and prosper as a sovereign nation. We absolutely and unequivocally support Israel's right to defend herself if attacked.

Israel is an ally and an independent, sovereign nation. In the unfortunate event that Israel is attacked, we, once again, completely support her right to defend herself. If the interests and security of the United States is directly threatened by an attack, we have the absolute right to bring a declaration of war before Congress, and if voted through, to protect the interests and security of the United States."

Then again, I'm not and never will be a politician.

Rand can support Israel

all he wants yet in the end when he is potus he will not succumb to "The Lobby" and go to war ---Rand will follow the Constitution and make his dad proud!! In the mean time he will get all the Israel firsters votes.

I am getting pretty sick

of this "we know Rand is lying, and that in the end he will support liberty." His father succeeded quite well at defending liberty without lying, and, frankly, I don't want a liar in the White House. Does everyone remember that FDR, in his first campaign for president, said he would cut government spending and restore the Gold Standard? The fact is, NOBODY can be sure of where a liar stands on any issue.

"In the mean time he will get all the Israel firsters votes."

He would get a few Israel firsters votes, and he would lose tens of millions of votes of true progressives and independents who would have been happy to support his father. He could never win the general election precisely because he "plays the game," and comes across as an unprincipled Republican hack. The only thing which would have prevented Ron Paul from winning the White House in 2016 is his age. If he were 20 years younger, he could win in a landslide.

No liars!

Get over Ron--I feel your pain

Maybe run for an local office--with real intent to win---then I know you will have a better understanding of what one has to do to win ---an election. You can play the game and still be principled. Difficult yes but doable.

BTW -- What prevented Ron from winning was not his age.

"What prevented Ron from winning was not his age."

You didn't read what I wrote. I said he would win by a landslide in 2016 if he were 20 years younger. What prevented him from winning in 2008 and 2012 was that he was largely unknown and the media introduced people to him with negative bias. He could easily win in 2016 if he were 20 years younger, as they can no longer hide who he really is and virtually everyone has heard of him.

Honestly, the only way a true liberty candidate can win is by TELLING THE TRUTH.

Judge Nap,

we need you in 2016!

You have understand

Israel's influence, to understand Rand's position. I am not one of those "Jews run the world" believers, but I do understand they have a tremendous amount of campaign money and influence.
"If you want to be a Leader, you must be funded like a Leader."
- nobody important

Ron brought the Liberty movement together, Rand is expanding the crap out of it! :)

And he must understand

that many libertarians could care less about his political ambitions if it means selling out liberty.

http://lionsofliberty.com/
*Advancing the Ideas of Liberty Daily*

So

You said he is selling out Liberty....
How so?

Ron brought the Liberty movement together, Rand is expanding the crap out of it! :)

"An attack on Israel is an attack on America"

"peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none."

-Thomas Jefferson

"An attack on Israel is an attack on America" seems to me like a pretty big "entangling alliance"... Why should I go to war or suffer the consequences of America being at war because of the interests of a country which I consider a criminal entity. Removing Saddam, killing and dying in Iraq and fueling even more anti-American sentiment in the region in the process, for them was enough don't you think? Besides, regardless of my opinion about Israel, they're a sovereign nation and it is up to them to deal with any and all situations that they create, not up to the US.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

Rands association

With this evangelical group is a disturbing aspect I haven't even touched upon.

At least it wasn't a taxpayer-funded junket!

http://lionsofliberty.com/
*Advancing the Ideas of Liberty Daily*

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As a supporter of Rand

this is the one area (unconditional support for Israel) that make me say hmmmm.

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

Keep shining the light!!!

Keep shining the light!!!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

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