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Antibacterial Soap Is Bad? What's Going On Here?

Now it's the Antibacterial Soap Conspiracy...

I really don't like how the not so mainstream anymore media is spinning this...the last thing they have a concern for is our own well being.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2013/05/03/popular-antiba...

Triclosan is being demonized and convicted before the FDA study has even been completed.

Guilt before innocence. Sound familiar?

http://blogs.nicholas.duke.edu/thegreengrok/triclosan_post/

They do a great job of making Triclosan sound like eggs...

The Triclosan terrorist! Just kidding.

Let me give my own personal testimony...

I work with food every day for a living. No matter how many gloves I wear, my nails are put through hell. I constantly put my hands in a hot water and soap mix with 3 shots of Clorox bleach for my hand towels, but my nails were still infected.

Then I bought a house and started to wash my own dishes...with antibacterial Dawn. My nails look 100 times better!

I sound like a freaking advertisement, but it's true.

If you like drinking dish washing liquid, then yeh...it's going to hurt you. But if you wash your hands or dishes with a 0.10% Triclosan antibacterial detergent, I don't think you need to worry at all.

What is worrisome is how some kind of H1NV? whatever bird flu comes up every few years, and now there are reports of new kinds of super viruses...

If heavy duty, restaurant based industrial soap and bleach couldn't keep my nails from being infected, but a dish soap with Triclosan in it did...

I take a giant shot of salt and tequila with anything I hear coming from the not so mainstream anymore media.

I don't trust them, for so many good reasons.

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After 40 YEARS, how about the FDA just give us

the data they have so far, and we'll make our own conclusions. Some of us think 40 YEARS is long enough to wait for an answer. Oh, wait a minute. I get it.

"The FDA has been working on a review of whether triclosan is safe for nearly 40 years. Its website said the review would be released in 2012, but there is still no sign of it. When asked about a release date, an FDA spokesperson declined to comment because of ongoing litigation. Until this review is finalized, companies are permitted to use the chemical in their products."

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Yeah I Read About That

I think they just don't want people to keep from catching colds and stuff so they have to go to the doctor and pay for lots of meds!

skippy

One tequila two tequila three tequila...

floor.

From the blog post, Triclosan is a chlorinated aromatic hydrocarbon. Translation = it's like a soap, with a molecule of oil - hydrocarbon at one end and chlorine instead of water at the other end. The aromatic means the molecule has a benzene ring and puts out a (usually pleasant) odor. Aromatics also evaporate quickly, (taking dead germs with them apparently.)

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zooamerica, the look of your

zooamerica, the look of your nails is hardly evidence of anything. Numerous studies have documented that anti-microbial solutions are a hazard in daily, household use.

Certainly anti-microbial products have their place: a health worker moving from infected patient to patient, backpacking where where clean water is not guaranteed, emergency situations in which you have to use likely contaminated water for clean up.

Otherwise, killing microbes -- with Dawn or whatever else -- is a bad idea. Our bodies are designed to fight something. If we removed the battle, we end up with auto-immune issues. Ditch your Dawn. Ditch the bleach. Ditch the Triclosan.

Since you didn't actually say what infected your nails, only that they looked better, I'm assuming that you're guessing that they were infected or with what. Many substances can make your nails prone to splitting and/or yellowing. Nothing to do with infection. The best my nails have ever been is when I've been commercial fishing and immersing my hands in fish slime swimming with microbes for weeks on end. Microbes don't make bad nails or good nails.

Nature

hates a vacuum.

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" ... before the FDA study ..."

which would prove what, exactly?

Rubbing alcohol works and

Rubbing alcohol works and does not cause a resistance.

Triclosan soap is unnecessary

The soap and water physically removes microbes from your hands. There is no reason to involve an antimicrobial in this process. Why give microbes more opportunity to become resistant to the triclosan?

Antibacterial soap is more of a (irresponsible) marketing gimmick than anything.

All the medical & biology classes I took in college, we were

discouraged to use it. Messes with your immune system. It's like taking so many antibiotics over time that your body gets immune to them and when you need them, they won't work on you.

Triclosan persists in nature

Triclosan persists in nature and can bio accumulate. Use Method soap which is triclosan free.

Southern Agrarian

Triclosan mixed eith chlorinated water =

Chloroform. So if you bathe with it you could possibly pass out in the shower.

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Anti bacterial in small dose is not bad,

and may even be helpful, but ant bacterial everything, (especially body wash) is really bad, as it interferes with you immune system, basically switching it "off" to common bacteria, and at the same time killing off the good bacteria that is on your skin. The defense of the bodies largest organ wiped out. I am a firm believer in "home immunization", and only have an anti bacterial soap in the bathroom, and Detol in the cupboard for anything nasty.
Some wooden chopping boards have anti bacterial properties (pine) so I use those and hot water.
Don't be conned into having Germ Phobia, we need these guys in small doses to be able to fight them if they (or something else) gets out of hand.

It makes sense that

if you wash your hands with anti-bacterial soap/sanitizer often, you are more susceptible to staph/flu/common cold. Here is my reasoning: (mind you I am no doctor)

Every time you wash with sanitizer or anti-bacterial soap, you not only wash away the bad bacteria, but the good too. So that good bacteria that used to fight the bad is no longer there, so it would take less bad bacteria to get through to infect you.

That's my theory anyway.

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

Not just your theory. There

Not just your theory.

There have been numerous studies, reported in MSM, about the harm anti-bacterial home products are causing. Just heard another one on NPR last week that linked asthma and allergies to homescapes that try to be too clean.

This is pretty well known. Hard to understand why the big home product manufactures keep touting anti-microbial when any consumer who reads the science pages knows such products are detrimental. It's actually hard to find cleaning products that don't claim to anti-microbial "benefits." I don't two stones about organic or enviro-safer cleaning products, but have found myself having to go there because I do read the science pages and do not want products that try to kill microbes.