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Adam Kokesh Planning 'Illegal' Open Carry Gun March On D.C.

From The Event Page:

On the morning of July 4, 2013, Independence Day, we will muster at the National Cemetery & at noon we will step off to march across the Memorial Bridge, down Independence Avenue, around the Capitol, the Supreme Court, & the White House, then peacefully return to Virginia across the Memorial Bridge. This is an act of civil disobedience, not a permitted event. We will march with rifles loaded & slung across our backs to put the government on notice that we will not be intimidated & cower in submission to tyranny. We are marching to mark the high water mark of government & to turn the tide. This will be a non-violent event, unless the government chooses to make it violent. Should we meet physical resistance, we will peacefully turn back, having shown that free people are not welcome in Washington, & returning with the resolve that the politicians, bureaucrats, & enforcers of the federal government will not be welcome in the land of the free.

You are welcome to attend unarmed as a supporter, or armed with a recording device.

If this page gets to 10,000 attendees by June 1st, & we have the critical mass necessary to pull this off, (1,000 actual attendees) we will march. Please spread the word, share this event, & invite all your friends.

His Facebook Link Here:
https://www.facebook.com/ADAMVSTHEMAN/posts/10151376548446260



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Here we go again

Remember this? Thought we finished discussing Adam Kokesh last year: http://www.dailypaul.com/250939/adam-kokesh-officially-not-w...

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Oh, because Jesse Benton said so?

C'mon. We all know the real reason Adam wasn't invited to attend the event. His commentary is far too provocative for the security team?

Has he ever done anything violent to people in this movement?

It comes down to one statement and discussion regarding a lame duck nominee and a nonexistent threat on his life.

His exception to this event was purely political and had nothing to do with a perceived physical threat.

As the great Stossel would say: Give me a break!

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
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Not a good idea!

Not a good idea! This can only end badly for someone. It has not reached the point to do this. This only gives them an excuse to raid your house and make it so you can not buy or own a firearm. Bad strategy and no reason to put yourself in a world of hurt. We are winning, Obama got his ass kicked with the failure of all of the gun bills.
Think smarter and live longer.

RickStone

The 4th of July in DC is like Times Square on New Year's Eve

I have never seen any protesters in DC on the 4th. All the politicians are in their districts or on vacation, the offices are all closed and everybody else is drunk, stoned (they don't bother people for smoking weed openly in DC on the 4th) or just there for the fireworks. You've seen million man marches and huge protests in DC but I can promise you they are NOTHING even close to the crowd in DC on July 4th. It's a huge huge crowd, probably a few million people and they are coming from every direction. The atmosphere is like a carnival or amusement park.
That said, if they don't get arrested just for planning it and somehow get 1000 people to do it, they will scare a bunch of people and create absolute pandemonium. It could get so ugly so fast. I think it's a bad idea.

There's also the possibility

that he gets James Yaeger'ed and ends up looking like he got smacked down by the big dogs, causing people who possess the spirit of resistance to vicariously lose heart.

I don't know that I trust Adam Kokesh nor would I trust that an

Agent Provocateur incident be planned or not planned. It could just happen. If "they" will shoot up class rooms of children to get a gun ban, at what do you think they would stop?

"We will march with rifles loaded" It would be impossible to

Agent Provocateur this genius plan into something negative for the 2Amdt or for the Liberty Movement.

What could possibly go wrong!!

But more seriously. Many have speculated that the abuses have become so great and so in our face, along with the GOV/PTB complex having achieved a tremendous edge in mob control tech that they may very likely be itching for the least excuse to go all out overt tyranny on our butts.

Are you ready for that time?

Could this stupid stunt be spun into a sufficient excuse to the satisfaction of the sheeples?

How will it play on the glowing stupid box during our campaigning time that many here at the DP expressed support for a 1000+ +? to march locked and loaded on the FED GOV??

We have people in our land cheering martial law??

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Everyone has to make up their own mind.

IS ADAM ADVOCATING FOR A BLOODY REVOLUTION? The Government is going to take this as a direct attack, and shoot at these Patriots! If this is not what Adam intentions then he is sadly mistaken! I do not agree with the tactics of this march but I undstand the feelings of the people that do the march armed. I do not blame them! I just like REVOLUTION LOVE more time too work!

That being said if the Government fires one Shot My Libertarian gloves are off AND REVOLUTION BLOOD IS ON! GOD BLESS THE REVOLUTION!

Chair Lehigh Valley PA LP
Matt Schutter

The American Revolution-2013

Everyone needs to watch Dr Zhivago, and a film on the French Revolution.

It is happening in our lifetime. Fighting for our Liberty.
We need to send a message to the world.
We own this country-not our elected employees.

The Constitution must be obeyed.

Remember your Oath.

If anyone is shot upon who participates in this march by those who are employed by and paid for by our taxes government-we will then know we do not live in our own America anymore.

I have to admit

regardless of the "wisdom" of conducting this march, AK and friends have more guts than I do. I really can't afford to be arrested, and certainly can't afford to be shot.

Can anyone?

Can anyone?

Some courageous people are willing to

accept both, if it means standing up for what they believe in.

My only problem..

What is the penalty for open carrying in D.C...
I only have one rifle and if it gets confiscated it will more than likely never be returned. I got it before the rise in prices and can't afford another. Also if the arrest puts in jeopardy my legal ability to have and keep arms then I don't see the wisdom in it. I'll be there just not sure about how armed I'll be.

I advocate breaking laws that violate our natural rights...

But I don't advocate getting yourself arrested by doing it in front of those that would deprive you of your rights.

What good are your second amendment rights, if you purposely get yourself arrested and have your weapons confiscated from you, your liberty taken from you and your ability to purchase firearms taken from you.

Here's another example: I think its righteous and commendable for people to avoid paying taxes, but I wouldn't tell someone to march into an IRS office and admit to it.

Would Adam be righteous in doing this?

Yes, he most definitely would.

Would he be wise do this?

Probably not.

Getting yourself arrested is not going to make you any more free.

I respect the hell out of Adam, and I would applaud him for doing this, but I don't think this is going to turn out well for him or anyone involved if he goes through with it.

Pick your battles, this isn't the hill to die on.

Timing is important in activism, and I don't think that this is the right time for this, we need to educate more people first.

I know we can all be impatient, but don't get ahead of yourselves.

In order for mass civil disobedience to be effective we first have to achieve critical mass, we aren't there yet, but we are getting there.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

You may want to research AK* and his father before you decide

to fall in line with his latest parade.

Also, a good rule of thumb:

If someone pops up Very Prominently on the radar out of nowhere/all of a sudden-complete with pre-packaged cheering section/adoring fans that is trumpeted as a leader/new face of a new movement-that is a threat to the current PTB then-

Look very closely at whom they are/their associations.

One other related Rule of Thumb:

Be very wary of those that find their way into GATEKEEPER positions in any movement that is a threat to the current PTB. Scrutinize them closely when they first appear and never let them rise beyond constant scrutiny-if they are no problem they will understand and have no problem with being constantly and closely watched; if they are a problem they will care and protest-who cares-they are a problem.

Critical positions in an emerging, PTB threatening movement are too critical to allow people not fully on-board or worse to remain in such positions long.

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."

Vladimir Lenin

One more recommendation. Become familiar with ALL the tools and techniques the PTB uses/has used to become the PTB and to keep it that way.

* For starters, everyone familiar w/ AK knows he is an Iraq War Vet.
Do you know what his job was in the military?

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

Yes.

Civil affairs.

What's your point? What are you getting at?

I am one of the few that still trust Adam. I am not pleased with everything he has done and I have more recently stayed a cautious distance because I'm not sure tactically he is doing what I think needs to be done at the moment, like marching through the streets with armed weapons for instance.

However, I understand the concern on the boards here. I am very tempted to just call him up and ask him whats his motivation for this. Maybe communicating with him like a human being is in order instead of all the paranoid speculation.

Protesting, not media, not grandstanding, not organizing, not even public speaking is what Adam is best at and was one of the reasons I admired him as we worked together in IVAW. Certainly anything is possible and certainly I don't know everything about anyone but it hurts to see all the distrust out there for someone that I consider a friend.

What I ultimately think he is doing is what his gut tells him he should be doing. Anything and everything to expose the police state and its power over us that we can't EVEN imagine utilizing our God given right to walk down the street and protect ourselves. I think it is the inevitable stand that will occur and he is, prematurely to most, drawing his line. You don't have to stand with him.

But we will all be eagerly awaiting the result.

What if nothing happens?
What if something does?

This is civil disobedience at its core.

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
www.yaliberty.org - Young Americans for Liberty
www.ivaw.org/operation-recovery - Stop Deploying Traumatized Troops

Wow, I did not know that

about his father. Kinda makes one go Hmmm..

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” – Dresden James

I don't think it should be open carry! TOO DANGEROUS!

MARCH YES, but not open carry!!! Too many CIA read this site looking to harm the innocent like they do most people. We can't afford a set up. Look at Tamerlan and his family? I say no open carry but YES WE MARCH TO DEFEND OUR RIGHTS AT ALL CAPITALS ACCROSS THE NATION. What do you think? We must stand up against this mafia. We have NO CHOICE! Really most won't come if it's open carry because nobody wants to get set up and you know this mafia is looking to set up innocent liberty minded folk. MARCH !! HELL YES!!!

We have to be NON VIOLENT with NO OPPORTUNITY FOR A SET UP

We can't take the chance. We ae innocent and they are evil. But a NON Violent MARCH we can do!

So the reason everyone gives for NOT attending or open carry

is because of the FEAR of getting arrested. Its that FEAR that the State relies on to control its subjects. If anyone was concerned that Adam or any of the others marching across the bridge were doing so in order to become violent...that would be different. But not doing something you feel strongly about specifically because you FEAR being kidnapped and put in a cage is a sad sad commentary for a supposed free people.

Agreed.

Maybe there is no march. Maybe this is a test of our mettle. We are still at least at an impressive 10%.

I will do what I think is most important for those that attend...pray, that no harm befalls them. I know Adam is an atheist but I will pray that a miracle happens to him the same.

Pray that the snipers on the roofs of these buildings use a higher wisdom in the execution of their duties on this day.

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
www.yaliberty.org - Young Americans for Liberty
www.ivaw.org/operation-recovery - Stop Deploying Traumatized Troops

Another good bumper

Another good bumper sticker!!!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Truthbearer's picture

It was...

...well said by our recently dearly departed Father; that in life, there are two kinds of individules. One is a doer, and one is don't do nothing-er. HE would say, you are a doer. The question to everyone now is, which are YOU?

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BALLS the Size of Binary Star Sol, Kokesh!

that said, since now it's public, getting there will be the bigger issue.

or they may just declare 100sq mile in and around DC "sheltered-in."

but nope, it 'won't' be a police state martial law declaration. no siree.

mark my words, y'all: the Orwellian double-speak is so bad that soon enough, when a cop is charged with raping a young girl, his defense will be: "Your Honor, it was involuntary consensual sex!"

worse, the moron sheeple jury will acquit him, believing his characterization of his self-admitted crimes.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I helped Adam promote a march last year..

A lot - www.youtube.com/watch?v=b23MUAGibXM

I won't be marching with him this year. I was taught by my father to never throw the first punch, and to never give the impression that I intended to. It's a lesson that has served me well in my personal life, business and in politics, and I love ya Adam, but I think the timing is wrong on this march.

When would I march with Adam locked and loaded? When they have taken the 1st Amendment from us and not a moment before.

Till then I'm kinda busy with this -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7fITwuzPoM - http://www.jagtv.com/#!the-network/c1mi2

Viva la r3volution!

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The March is the Response to their first Punches

Zak,
Every time the government has taken away a Liberty from us, it is a first punch.

We are finally saying enough is enough.

It is time to answer them.

I do believe if anyone does not go, it is due to work. I am unsure if I can get there for this. I want to be there, and should be.

All veterans and Americans should be there.

What better way to celebrate our Independence Day.
Freedom and Liberty.
2nd Amendment rights.
America-The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.

We all love you too Zak...Carrie

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brave

I hope they don't get in trouble.

I respect the hell out of Adam and whoever else is willing

to take a stand. You people that think its "dangerous" or ill advised...when/where exactly are you going to draw the line? When you are being loaded into cattle cars? Thats a tad late in my view.