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NYPD Officer: " “If you're not a terrorist, if you’re not a threat, prove it“This is the price you pay to live in free society"

Teenagers, social media, and terrorism: a threat level hard to assess.

Using a zero tolerance approach to track domestic terrorists online is the only reasonable way to analyze online threats these days, especially after the Boston Marathon bombing and news that the suspects had subsequently planned to target Times Square in Manhattan, Mullins says. The way law enforcement agencies approach online activity that appears sinister is this: “If you’re not a terrorist, if you’re not a threat, prove it,” he says.

“This is the price you pay to live in free society right now. It’s just the way it is,” Mullins adds

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2013/0505/Teenagers-soc...

Guilty until proven innocent.

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Cyril's picture

If angry, I'd probably fire back with:

If angry, I'd probably fire back with:

"And prove me you're enforcing the rule of law and not the law perverted, you, filthy PIG.

Now bring me an oath keeper for the people, you, miserable MINION."

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Hallmark

of an uncivil society

Does this mean if you are a

Does this mean if you are a terrorist, you don't have to prove it?

Officers are guilty until proven innocent. The rule is for him.

People are innocent until proven guilty.

If he doesnt' know this he should go back to kindergarten and try again.

Free includes debt-free!

Freedom doesn't cost a thing.

Freedom doesn't cost a thing. Freedom is not government, and therefore I don't believe that people like the founders paid the price of their lives to freedom, because they were still set on instituting a government. Freedom is personal and not something a governing body can ever protect.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

prove you take oaths

prove you take oaths seriously....oh no wait, never mind /s

Prove you follow your oaths.....and we'll LISTEN, that is ALL. We'll way your words and seek your actions, untill then, stfu......hows THEM apples

If that kind of disregard of their authority their worth pisses them off, what the hell do they think making such a statement would do to folks who hold more value over freedom then security, and a false one at that, well, unless they somehow forcefully implement total global surveilance, if that is a "required" outcome, then i got news for you, you WONT have freedom, you'll CREATE even more and UNIQUE problems, when surveilance is the norm, not just for the individual damage to rights, but the multiplied by the n'tinth kind of damage to rights, when "leaders" use upon "leaders" or massive "groups" of people, in the end, as always, it will be the people recieving the butt end, while those who created it, implimented it get a free pass

Why do they treat EVERYONE as if they have a short attention span, do they not think one or two would see inconsistances or do they think it is a manageable consequence, perhaps with strategies to circumvent rises in awareness, wouldnt be surprised to hear there is a department for that, or that the majority of the people in it are oblivious to what they actually do

No officer, the true price of freedom has yet to be paid...

... and you better hope the American people never cash that check. II

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"The greatest mystery of all is truth." - Me, 2009

boom!

sorry e

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

That cop ...

... sounds like a terrorist, and has already proven he is a threat.

He should prove he's not.

bigmikedude's picture

"If you’re not a terrorist, if you’re not a threat, prove it.”

"This is the price you pay to live in free society right now."

"It’s just the way it is,” Mullins adds


http://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0

Yes, bigmikedude! The PERFECT icon to be embedded in ALL

posts showing the INANITY of Post 9/11-Agenda 21/NWO communistic *Life In America* today. I'm adding it to these two that are top of mind:

EAGLE SCOUT EXPELLED AND CHARGED WITH A FELONY (with further consequences to his acceptance and scholarship to college) - because he accidentally left an unloaded gun in his vehicle after a weekend of hunting & fishing, an admitted mistake on his part he tried to rectify by openly calling his mother from the school office, asking her to come and get it. http://www.dailypaul.com/284321/eagle-scout-senior-high-scho...

TRACK TEAM DISQUALIFIED - for prohibited "excessive celebrations" because one of the members, without so much as raising his arm, merely silently pointed one finger skyward in an apparent gesture of thanks. http://www.dailypaul.com/284536/video-america-is-gone-track-...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

The LCD belives rights are granted by government

LCD = Least common Denominator (in society).

They've forgotten about "Unalienable Rights" & the "Declaration of Independence".

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"Take hold of the future or the future will take hold of you." -- Patrick Dixon

Sheep don't have rights, only have what's handed to them

A pasture and some hay

Until they figure out how to walk on two legs does their brain start working, that's why the government spends so much money keeping them stupid

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Someone should "sovereign citizen" this cop.

Take the cop's bond.

My answer to that would be

I love the Constitution, especially the bill of rights, and you cannot arrest me without probable cause. Prove that you are not a tyrant.

Ignorance pervades public servants... Citizens should respond...

Dear Public Servant,

If we are terrorists, you prove it! And, prove it is a crime and not freedom's thought!

That is the price you pay to be a servant for a free and sovereign people!

The price we pay is giving our blood, wealth and honor to retain that freedom!

The other price we pay is accepting punishment by nothing but the rule of a just and common law, held only in the hands of our peers!

You sir, are only a paid necessary evil in this hammer and anvil of justice.

We are all paid for our labor, however, we also pay for yours! We also give of our love and thanks, since our own families fill your shoes.

But, you are free to find another occupation if you are unhappy, unfulfilled, frustrated, or lacking sufficient wealth and authority!

You will never find the latter as a public servant to a free and sovereign people.

Ron Paul 2016! Get used to it!

Makes no sense.

If you have to pay a price to live in a free society, then it is in fact not a free society in which you live. This is the typical political double speak we see that is designed for the brainwashed masses.

N.Y. citizens to officer:

"If your not a threat to freedom, liberty and the Constitutional rights of any American citizen, PROVE IT! Your paycheck is what WE PAY for you to uphold those rights, not destroy them."

Some of these "public service" people forget that they are being paid by the people they harass. This goes all the way to the top of the pyramid...they forget who they are actually paid by...we the people!!!!!!!!!

On this same quote on yahoo,

On this same quote on yahoo, the most upvoted comment is the one saying that last sentence is the greatest oxymoron ever.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

This has been true since the war on drugs

I would have told the officer it's up to him to proove it, he's being paid to proove he's not a terrorist.

Your comment doesnt make sense.

It just doesn't groove.

waveripper

as in surf?

Many people find the police state terrifying. Many police find themselves as peace officers facing an unablanced public (which is what they are called to duty).

If I was asked to proove that I was not a terrorist, honestly, I'd find that terrifying and would let the peace officer know that.

hang five (unless you're a long boarder and then I want a 10).

Yes I rip waves.

On a shortboard.

Hang 5

I grew up surfing, loved it so much.. couldn't keep me out of the water.. about 20 years ago.. had 5 areas of my sinus removed from an infection that wouldn't heal because I couldn't get out of the water.. also, had a little ding repair business for about 8 yeas and the occaisional quick job when I would not wear a mask and protection goggle probably started the infection.. anyways, LOVE to surf.. miss it.. rip it good.

Irrationalism to its "logical" conclusion

The burden of proof is on he who asserts the positive. Otherwise, we could just as easily ask that officer to prove he's not a terrorist, which is of course impossible for anyone to do.

Legal Maxim

The proof lies upon him who affirms, not upon him who denies; since, by the nature of things, he who denies a fact cannot produce any proof” (Ei incumbit probation, qui dicit, non qui negat; cum per rerum naturam factum negantis probation nulla sit)

tyrants..

a "terrorist" or "a threat" is someone doing an action... noone can be a "terrorist" until they actually perform some "act of terror"... (whatever that is, one man's terror is another man's fetish) ...

innocent until proven guilty. as soon as they violate your right to privacy and your right to due process they have become tyrants and are subjected to the penalty of death. simply, if they have violated an OATH (a vow on their LIFE) they deserve the punishment they've asked for by swearing said OATH.

I use Blue Wave, but don't expect one of THEIR silly taglines.

Its interesting that the only

Its interesting that the only way you can prove you arnt guilty of something is by surrendering all privacy.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Asking to prove a negative?

Yeah, I'm sure that'll end up well.

I mean, it's not like the definition of 'terrorist' has been redefined to the point where it includes anybody who has so much as a mild criticism of the federal government. Tee hee of course not.

What a clown.

"You are free, now strip down and bend over! America FUCK YEAH!"

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