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U.N. has testimony that Syrian rebels, not Assad, used sarin gas

"The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte.

"Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated," Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.

"This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities," she added, speaking in Italian."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/05/us-syria-crisis-un...



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to Obama's credit,

and I am not a big fan of his, he did come out initially saying they had evidence of chemical weapons being used, but didn't know who used them. I took that as a remarkable difference (and improvment, frankly) from George W Bush...

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Judeo-Turkish Accomplices Of Al-Qaeda In Syria And The Silent Pe

Judeo-Turkish Accomplices Of Al-Qaeda In Syria And The Silent Persecution Of Orthodox Christians

http://xaameriki.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/judeo-turkish-acco...

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

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~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

But no one has any proof of chemical weapons

What they do have is 70K dead rebels and over a million displaced, and now the UN is a seperate commission that begs for for more questions than the article even begins to answer, wants us to think that the rebels are killing and displacing the rebels.

Interesting. Meanwhile.. no one can conform any gas.. anywhere in Syria.

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Images of the war in Syria

Here is a documentary that may cause you to question what is really going on in Syria. It well known the typical destabilization tactics of US and Israel is to cause chaos by arming/supporting known terrorists groups (now they are so-called 'freedom fighters')so the current government can be overthrown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BYBFl...

If Wars Can Be Started by Lies, They Can Be Stopped By Truth.

I look forward to watching it.

Thank you.. I don't have 43 minutes at the moment.. but as soon as I do, I will watch and respond. Again, THANK YOU.

I'm 4 minutes into it.. the soldier by the beautiful waterfall is speaking.. the man before said Jews lived in Syria.. nobody questions, nobody cares.. they all get along and what is happening is unconscionable.

Now the soldier.. what he is saying to me, is that WESTERN INFLUENCE.. some here immediate think CIA, Moussad, Al-Qaeda.. I think music, blue jeans, no scarves, smoking.. To me the conflict right now is as if the militant Amish are controlling the country and the Baptists want freedom to use electricty...

More later when I have time to watch and, THANK YOU.

Back and watching;nearly 6 minutes, the soldier is talking to the camera crew as if the crew had permission from the Syrian government.. so this is biased having permission from the very government the rebels are protesting

The soldiers askes> WHAT DO THEY WANT? FREEDOM? (Ron Paul says "Freedom is popular"... eh?)

I'm getting the idea, most of teh skirmishes are showing rebels spoils, and the Syrian govet troops say they are fake muslims and they find DRUGS in their pockets. I couldn;'t help but think that what the rebels are doing to the Syrian govt. is what I've heard Americans wish they could do to Clinton, Bush, Obama.. @ 11:00

@ 12 mins.. the woman.. her argument is what Israel has been saying for decades.. now she says it.. and what am I hearing.. we have American and Israelis going to Syria, doing drugs, bombing for freedom and yelling ackbar when they disect humans? Because America and Israel does not like them?

@ 14 minutes.. this man has gone from "we love enerybody" to showing he certian;ly does not like people who do drugs.. this is looking pretty shabby production...

70K killed and 1 million displaces.. the govt is saying the rebels (Americans and Israelis) did this.. I guess the DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM killed these people.. and the rebels say it's the govt.. and does this ever play the other side ot is this one sided?

At 21:30 the story line.. the government admit it lies.. LOL but this is the whole truth? She admits she is on the side of the govt.

@30.. the guy asking, "would you want these democrats ruling your country? freedom fighters.. I'm glad Ron Paul supporters are Republicans,

At 34.. they show a Church and it's sound system in the tower.. they are playing classical music (Western) and blow up the Church with editing. Hmmm

So far, the army is discribing it's self as national martyrs.

@37:00 they talk about what fun they have...

"they smole and laugh like nothing happened".

OK.. Iit ends with Hiollary, and it had made a reference earlier, over-dub of Obama saying the Syrian government needs to not shoot the protesters.

Here's some facts

election results: Bashar al-ASAD approved as president; percent of vote - Bashar al-ASAD 97.6%, other 2.4% (and you thought we had unfair elections? ASAD is not Sunni)

Government type: republic under an authoritarian regime

Sunni Muslim (Islam - official) 74%, other Muslim (includes Alawite, Druze) 16%, Christian (various denominations) 10%, Jewish (tiny communities in Damascus, Al Qamishli, and Aleppo)

Age structure:

0-14 years: 33.9% (male 3,900,073/female 3,707,117)

15-24 years: 20.8% (male 2,387,006/female 2,285,496)

25-54 years: 36.9% (male 4,214,621/female 4,075,181)

55-64 years: 4.6% (male 504,422/female 517,413)

65 years and over: 3.9% (male 395,806/female 470,201) (2013 est.)

population pyramid:

Median age:

total: 22.7 years

male: 22.5 years

female: 22.9 years (2013 est.)

LGBT rights don't exist in Syria.. it's prison for three years

even rebels burn marijuana feilds http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/10/syrian-rebel-facebook/

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You need to check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQBHdp0h1c

Break free from your neocon bubble, Granger. Been there. Done that.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

Assad is NOT the problem here.

The Illuminati are.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

BS = MSM?

they disclose what they want you to think.

I am not in a neocon bubble. The Neocons are now saying Israel is respinsible for the chemical weapons in Syria.

BS is leading his quest.. this would never be allowed in a court (well what am I thinking.. in a court of justice.. if there is one).

President Assad is a shiite and they are very conservative (fascist).. the majority of the population is sunni.. which, like Israel's freedom.. and that is why Assad has murdered 70K people and displaced over a million..

to me the guest is not answering the question.. instead he is defending Assad.. and he talks like if he's got a gun pointing at him from off camera..

The rebels want what Israel has.. when he talks about sunni he breaks up.. he says sunni are like Chirstians.. right.. infidels to shiites..

The interveiwer is twisting his own story.

the interveiwer thinks BS's program is not controlled by the government? Come on ((((((((sharky))))))))

Right they want to get along with Israel.. what is this gy some UN stoooge? Come on ((((sharky))))))) this is full if it disclosure.

"BS = MSM?"?

Ben Swann "a disinfo programmer"? (from your comment further below)

And what's up with pulling the socialist card at Shark? ...and the insinuation that he only gave merit to someone's information because they're "foxy"?

Even if you disagree with his views about Syria, why the cheap shots?

Ben Swann is MSM Dis & Mis info programmer: YES

Ben Swann LEADS his interveiws with statements such as, "Now don't you mean such and such?", "Don't you mean to tell us such and such?".

What makes you think MSM, which Swann is contracted, gives HIM a free pass? Is it because he's handsome? Did he pay them? Why would MSM allow BS to reveal the truth? Is it because it's not the whole truth? Could that be possible?

Seriously. Is it possible BS is not a beacon of truth but contracted to appeal to those who supported Ron Paul? Isn't that what PROGRAMMING does? Take from the public the buzz and format it as something they can SELL? Is truth for sale?

I'm not pulling any socialist card with ((((((sharky))))) who is more handsome and honest than BS. Sharky is one of my favorite posters on DP. I LOVE his passion. He's got brains, heart and and a good soul. He's able to think inside and outside the box, holds onto his convictions, yet able to refine them.

What I did was provide Sharky with a link that shows Sharky making the same argument as the ORGANIZED SOCIALISTS. Maybe he didn't know. Maybe he did. And I KNOW, he has NO problem standing for what he believes, and frankly could give a damn if they are socialists or satanists.. as long as Sharky sees them as telling THE TRUTH, he will defend them.

So while I may not agree with Sharky on defending socialists or satanists (as he has not responded to my post as of this post to you, (((((((Dear Jiminy Cricket)))))) I have no doubt, that Sharky, if he chose to respond, will post an intelligent answer.. an I may actually learn something.

BS is handsome.. syria girl (why not publish her real name since she is so FREE?) is foxy and you bet, MSM and all propegandists, KNOW, it's not always what's IN the package that matters if you can sell the package..

I apologize if you see what I have posted to sharky as "cheap shots" for they were not intended to be.

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I give you this:

Ben Swann's interview of some insiders in Syria.

Assad is not the problem. Most Syrians actually support the Assad government. He is an American trained doctor....so not a psychopathic madman like our own current president.

ASSAD has NOT murdered over 70,000 of his own people. There are armed gangs (that the US is aiding) doing those biddings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQBHdp0h1c

And the REASON Syria is getting targeted is because they are RESISTING THE NEW WORLD ORDER and their central bank is not beholden to the IMF or the World Bank (aka the Federal Reserve).

Watch HERE: http://www.infowars.com/why-the-nwo-hates-syria/

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

I don't buy it (((((((((sharky))))))))))

I'm listen to BS now (I am not a fan of BS, I think his "disclosure" is also MSM propeganda). I have NO doubt that like the USA, Syria has people from the USA, Turkey, and many more countries, there to support the rebels (and I think most of them are former UN seeking a NWO). I have no doubt, the UN is there in spades, and it would not surprioze me to learn that former UN workers return to Syria to help the rebels.

(Really, I can't stand BS because he leads his interveiwers to get them to say what he wants YOU to hear).

Assad is not THE problem, but he is a problem. Imagine if Romney won the past election with 97%. You think Assad is that popular? Really? (Tens of thousands dead, over a million displaced, he has no control over the rebels and he's a good leader to you?) So if Obama had this happening in the USA you would support it?

Netanyahu and Israel are not seeking to remove Assad. They agree with you that Assad is better than who they may get otherwise.

You do not KNOW for a fact who and how many Assad has murdered or displaced. My understanding is over 1 million Syrians have applied to relocate to the USA.

TEN percent of Syrians are Jewish,, BS doesn't metion them. And this whole thing,, "No one asked what your religion was... THAT SMACKS SO UN NWO... homogenization of people really sucks.

Over 70% of Syrians are Sunni.. the interveiw is sensationalism.

@11 minutes, the interveiwee says the US media is not controlled by the government. Do you agree ((((sharky))))?

The interveiwee is correct, the USA wants NO threat to Israel, and as long as the Syrian government continues to buy weapons from those who are declared enemies of Israel and the USA, the USA will continue to be more involved with Israel than most Americans and Israel's want..

I have watched Syrian girl (sexy sells) and other vids about Syria resisting the NWO, meanwhile they are openly occuped by the UN who never gets any mention.. it's all the USA and Israel fault... I don't buy that.

To be honest ((((sharky))))) I believe most conspiracy theory is designed to keep people going in loops, not to bring peace, justice, closure.. but to infect and keep wound open to spread to other issues, making things more complicated, so the adverage person feels powerless, paralyzed, paranoid and disfunctional.

I believe the rebels are genuinely rebelling Assad (and his 97% wins), and have international help by those who support democracy and freedom in the USA and Israel.

Russia isn't part of the NWO? NWO is communist.. corporate godless control over all global respourses, which includes people..

You think the NWO wants Israel to exist? I don't.

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Ben Swann is the BEST journalist out there

I can't believe that you say what you say about Ben Swann. If ONLY more journalists like him had the balls to talk about the blacked out subjects that the MSM won't talk about.

You are completely wrong about your assessment of Ben.

And neither do YOU know for a fact who or how many Assad has [allegedly] murdered or displaced.

I will listen to a Syrian before I swallow hook line and sinker the official state sponsored MSM view that Assad has done this.

Let's listen in on another Syrian...her name is Syrian Girl...and she points out the back-story that the reason Syria is being made a patsy assaulted by the Globalists is because a) their central bank is not beholden to the IMF and World Bank, b) they are resisting the NWO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40cD8uYOsBo

[[[[[[Granger]]]]]]]

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

I don't agree ((((sharky)))))

I don't think BS has balls. I think he's a disinfo programmer.

Even if I was born abnd raised in Syrai I wouldn't KNOW how many Assad has murdered and displaced. What's up with Turkey blaming Asad and not the Rebels.. because the place is swarnming with displaced rebels.

Did Assad accept weapons from Russia? YES.

Is Assad working with Hisbollah? Yes.

Is Israel insulting and threatening Assad? NO. Matter of fact, Israel prefers Assad, and so they took our weapons meant to land on them.. GOOD!

Syrian Girl is FOXY. Wow. Sex sells..

Israel is not for a NWO, and perhaps why Israel like Assad?

I'm not a socailist. Are you? http://socialistworker.org/2013/04/09/supporting-syrias-revo...

http://www.syrianrevolutiondigest.com/

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You could not be more wrong about Ben Swann

All you have to do is turn on the MSM....MSNBC CNN....even FOX for disinformation programming.

Sorry, Granger...but I donated money to your political cause to advance the message of liberty...not to hear you spew forth this bulls-h-i-t about Ben Swann...about which YOU COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG.

How dare you ask me if I am a "socialist".

I am an ANTISOCIALIST.

As far as Turkey blaming the Assad regime...of COURSE they are...as they are the center of Operation Gladio part B.

Take four hours of your time and listen to former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds on that one:

http://dprogram.net/2013/02/20/sibel-edmonds-on-operation-gl...

You are NOT going to win on this one, Granger. The majority...LARGE majority recognize Ben Swann as being one of the greatest journalist voices for liberty ever. And you are going to slander him like that?

In regards to Syrian Girl....did you not pay attention to her content as opposed making a red herring about her good looks??

Really?

I am really disappointed...and if THIS is what you are made of....then I want my money back. I did not send money to this.

I sent my money because I thought Granger was an open-minded liberty activist who maybe did not agree with everything (my trutherism) but she supported the overall advance of liberty.

This is not the same Granger who I am talking to now who is discrediting two very powerful voices in the liberty movement...that of Ben Swann and Syrian Girl.

Make the tent larger...not smaller. That was Reagan's philosophy...and it worked.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

BS is not contracted by MSM?

So MSM give BS a free check? I don't turn on MSM, and that includes BS. I don't see THE TRUTH in MSM as anything but partial for the purpose of misleading.

I'm sorry, that you are sorry, that you supported my trip to the CA GOP Spring Convention. It was a good experience (priceless really) and I THANK YOU for that!

Did you open the link and read what the socialists said? Do you disagree with what they are saying about Syria (Syria girl agrees with them)? It appears to me (((((sharky)))) you are making exactly the same argument as the socailists for Syria. If you agree with them, why not admit it? You can agree with them and not be them.. I just wanted you to see whose side you are on, even if you think you are not.

Ahh Sibel... Ever wonder why she is not in prison? Or do you believe that the USA government does not imprison (or eliminate) threats? She is no threat. I don't believe anyone who tells the whole truth gets MSM or Tube time.. too many people who have blown much much smaller whistles remain in prison for me to believe, especially concerning 911, that anyone is telling the whole truth, but rather telling what keeps people from the whole truth and especially justice.. so they tell some truths. OK. Big applause for telling the small truths.

Yes, I heard what Syian Girl has to say in promoting Syria, "The government is good. Government is freedom". Yeah right.

I am not, and have never been, a Reagan fan. I blame him for the war on drugs, which I have lost many friends.. when Reagan said tent, he must have been talking about prisons.

I think the only loss is those who were not real friends. I've heard the worst enemy is an ex friend. I guess it's my turn to find out.

I like your new picture!

Peace be with you.

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Sibel IS a threat.

I PRAY every day....for her protection.

Make no mistake about it. And believe me...they tried to prosecute and imprison her.

My point is Granger....Sibel....Syrian Girl....ME....we are all on YOUR side.

So what if my view on Syria gels with the Socialist view??? That doesn't make me a socialist! LOL

In this fluid situation which we find ourselves....we need to be searching for the TRUTH....no matter how it challenges our world view....not classifying every jot and tittle to be on this side or that side of a false paradigm.

Rather...just the TRUTH.

That's all. Simple.

OK I take back my regrets for sending you money. Its just in your last few posts they seem like disinformation. But then you redeemed yourself by giving me a warm (((((shark hearted)))) hug.

At the end of the day....we are all neighbors.

Just remember....all I want is the TRUTH. And Ben Swann and Sibel Edmonds and Syrian Girl...are all on the vanguard of that front.

Cheers...and peace be with you as well. Glad you like my new pic. Got the five o'clock shadow thing going....for my NSA/State Department file of course....so they can readily identify me (LOL).

Peace be with you as well ("And also with you." as we say in the Episcopalian church.)

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

(((((((((((Sharky))))))))))) Thank you

Have you ever read Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea's Novel, "The Illuminatus!"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy

I ask, because the book is very well written. It had my head spinning to the point that what is truth is ambivilent and timely. I wish I had the gift of writing as they do, because then maybe, I would be able to map things out better in making my points. If you have read that book, then maybe you can appreciate how difficult it is to relate all that should, or could be said, and how difficult it is to do in just a few words on DP?

Thank you for taking back the regrets. I'm no Ron, Rand, or John Tate, I'm no corporation. With your support, I stood tall.. THANK YOU. You can not take that back.

You know, my first night, I brought half the room to it's feet when I challanged a speaker.. he was making a presentation abot how money flows in and out of the state( something like this http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2013/04/16/177512687/a-who... ) and I aked him to put up my county, Mendo.. and then I asked about where the medical marijuana fit it.. Imagine if you were in that room when you were a neocon.

I know I made a bigger impact than what I thought because of this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ron-nehring/medical-marijuana-...

My Baby brother passed away the day before, so I did not respond, but I will.

I apologise if I have offended you, for that is not my ambition. I genuinely care about you, respect you and you ideas, knowing you are no socialist, and more than a truth seeker, but someone who makes a stand for truth. I care, appreciate, and respect that about you. I do not appreciate flattery, so please do not think I am flattering you. I'm telling you MY truth.

((((((((((Sharky))))))))))

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FRIENDS.

We are friends. We may not agree on everything. But we are friends.

I am sure where you can guess I stand on the medical cannabis issue and in fact for every other drug: The government has no business regulating what we do and do not put in our bodies. If I as a hypothetical drug user, want to waste away on crystal meth(or vodka for that matter) then that is my natural right and eventually Mother Nature will thin the herd by removing me from it.

It is NONE OF THE GOVERNMENT's BUSINESS...whether I choose to or not.

There is nothing more tyrannical...than the state protecting people "from themselves."...especially when , given Murray Rothbard's accurate assessment, that "The state...is essentially a gang of thieves...writ large."

VERY SORRY to hear about your baby brother. That is so sad. My condolences.

Friends, and peace,

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

TRUE FRIENDS

Thank you for the sympathy concerning my baby brother ((((((Sharky)))))). You would have liked him. He was a quadreplegic and ran a concession stand at Reno River Rafting. They are going to have a ceremony for him. He was well liked and I'm told a great kayak instructor.

He used to fly an American Flag and POW MIA flag on his chiar. and he was in many parades through the years. He was a man's man, yet, he showed me that many super foxy chicks dig guys in wheelchairs. He used to bring the most gorgeous women to dinners. He put to shame many able bodied people.. I believe the good news is he can dance again and use what was his big strong arms to hug and kiss my parents who he's with now..

The family is a mess.. fighting... ah grief. Yeah.. I'm greiving.. I guess it's one reason I decided to take on the Israel situation, it's less painful than the memories and family fueding.

As for the war on drugs, to me, it is the worse war of all because it's right here, right now, and seems we can't do a darn thing about it.. I've been trying for 30 years. I have not given up.. I have not seen any buzz at all from the letter Ron Nerhing wrote. I am hoping I will, but I think everyone is waiting for a first move..

I'm up for it because I really have NO love for the GOP. It's just a tool, and if that tool continues to not work by 2016.. I will be done. I will have felt that I have done my best as a Libertarian 76- 92, Indy 92 - 2011, and now GOP. The CA GOP FALL convention will be in October in Anaheim (Disneyland) Ever notice how NWO types LOVE Disneyland? Seems our type like outdoor sports better.

Oh well.. ((((((((((((Sharky))))))))))))) Thank you for being my FRIEND. God Bless you and yours constantly and abundantly!!

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[[[[[[[[[Granger]]]]]]]]]]]

So sorry to hear about your brother. The details of that story tears my heart out. It really does. :-(

I look forward to meeting you personally some day (We should have a Daily Paul Convention).

Friends forever.

In liberty,

Chris

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

this is fine

they are "our rebels" they can use whatever they want.

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Dr.Ron Paul's 2002 Predictions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

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MAJOR BUMP

Thank you for sharing. This needs to get out and fast.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.