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Conspiracy Theorists Here on the DP

Dear DP,

Sorry to break it to you, but YES there ARE Conspiracy Theorists on this website. In my own personal life, I started researching "The Illuminati" about 5 years ago. Yes I do believe they exist, and yes I do believe they are working behind the scenes to bring forth a "New World Order."

That being said, it was my conspiratorial mind that brought me to the Liberty Movement, so like it or not, we are a part of the movement. Yes, I keep the conspiracy stuff to a minimum here, because yes this site is about Limited and Constitutional Government first and foremost. But the attacks on Conspiracy Theorists should stop. At the end of the day we are all on the same team.

Unfortunately there is a lot of dis-/misinformation on the subject of the Illuminati, so YES there are a lot of "conspiratards" out there. They just haven't figured it out yet, and are probably in it for "Conspiratainment" anyways. Just because there are a few crazies out there, doesn't mean we are all whackos or nutters. Even I have subscribed to some off-the-wall stuff, but my mind is not closed off to debunkers and I have been debunked before. I am ok with that. All I am after is the TRUTH. Nothing more, and nothing less.

That is all.

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Do It Yourself Crime Scene Investigation

People please, when you're documenting current events, Please make the effort to lift up the screen in your window and turn your smartphone sideways when filming. Please.

And remember, your photographs and videos have a time/date stamp on them. Please have the right time zone on your recording devices and post the exact time and date you took the images when uploading.

I mean, this is DIY-CSI 101, really.

When you right click the image on your computer when your device is attached, scroll down and click Properties, you see the time and date the image was taken. All that information is right there. Alex Jones should have a DIY-CSI 101 class on this.

Your post has made me think...

and as of today, I can't think of a single bad thing that's happened in the world that ISN'T a conspiracy. From Julius Ceasar to the Nazi's...to JFK and Bhuttos' assasinations, the school, banking, medical,legal and media systems...OKC, 9/11, 7/7, Ruby Ridge, Waco...all of it, everything.... on a global scale have been conspiracies perpetrated to ensnare the masses in a web of control.
I don't truely understand what groups are behind all this chaos, but one thing I can guerantee you is this: You have been lied to and your thoughts and opinions are being manipulated by the powers that be on a daily basis.

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BC
Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

Edward Bernays so arrogantly

Edward Bernays so arrogantly brags about this in his book, Propaganda

lawrence

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You get it!

As do more and more people every day.

The fact that the rest of us have to drag the "complacent" kicking and screaming into the "new" future where truth is not treason is just a fact of life.

Its amazing how all of those instances you mentioned helped to create a new way of life for America.

Its where we are today. Do you see it? Do you believe that America and, for that matter, nearly ALL of the world is a peaceful world? Or do you believe that the people's of the world want to all kill one another?

Its as simple as that.

Governments create wars to satisfy their thirst for power. EVIL men corrupt the world for their own greed. Throw the bums out. We, the people are the real power and we are, inherently, a peaceful people; the world over.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

It is not that any group is behind it.

It is simply human nature. Politicians, and those who would seek to rule their fellow man a manipulators pure and simple. They don't necessarily think up or organize any of these plots...maybe some if it is absolutely necessary. They generally prefer to sit back and demagouge events as they occur, and twist them to some sort of gain for themselves. Was Sandy Hook a false flag....probably no, but did the anti-gunners immediately twist it as a way to limit our rights, yes. That is what they do over and over and over, use the events of life to advance thmeselves and their dreams of unlimited power. MOst of them even think that they are doing a good thing consolidating that power, so they can use it properly to help others....so they think. In reality it is the height of hubris to believe that you know what is better for someone than they themselves know. In some limited cases it may be true, but in general it never is.

Josh Brueggen
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Someone needs to read some history books.

EDIT: Love the blind down-votes coming from ignorant individuals who have CLEARLY not read the academically-sourced material I cite. Keep 'em coming, morons.

Hate to break it to you, but your analysis is completely incorrect and has no basis in reality. There is indeed a shadowy group running the move towards global governance. The Adam Weishaup "Illuminati" have been defunct since the late-1800s and the Freemasons have been out of power since the Illuminati were outed for Freemasonic infiltration at the same time. There's a REASON the first third party in America was the Anti-Masonic Party. They KNEW there were foreign secret societies attempting to take over the American government. Hell, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams wrote about the Illuminati, are you calling them crazed "conspiracy" theorists?

So if the Illuminated and the Freemasons don't exist in their original manifestations, who is the secret society running the show today? They're called the Rhodes Roundtable informally, and incorporate the "Rings within Rings" methodology of the Illuminated. This isn't some wacky conspiracy theory, this is academically documented fact. Look up Tragedy and Hope by Georgetown Prof. Carrol Quigley. Look up the writings of Stanford's Hoover Institute fellow Prof. Antony Sutton. These people created a number of organizations (Council on Foreign Relations, Chatham House, Trilateral Commission, UN, Bilderberg, etc.) to infiltrate and influence people in high positions of finance and government.

As for your human nature argument, I personally put no credence in it. You and Hobbes both fail to understand that there is no such thing. No humans are born with complex intrinsic values, which is why an elite ruling class has sought to manipulate the values of the masses for centuries. What is human nature without propaganda? Without the manipulation of critical thinking? Without mass schooling, whether from the Church of the State? You don't know, I don't know, and Hobbes/Locke didn't know, either.

"The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else."
-Frederic Bastiat
www.cerebralindustrialcomplex.com

Ummm....Josh...

Sandy Hook WAS a terrible conspiracy! As was Fort Hood, Boston, Aurora, the Wisconsin Temple shooting, Building 7, et al. When you make 2 piles of evidence, one for the official story and one of actual facts...in each case the piles are of vastly different sizes, factual side always being much, much taller! So I disagree with you that the anti-gunners simply use the event...they CREATED the event!

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BC
Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

I'm glad there is someone who

I'm glad there is someone who gets it. The problem is not evil illuminati Jews but human nature and power systems ill designed to restrain it.

Ummm...favson....

In 99% of the cases (it seems), it IS the evil jews that are the perpetrators!! Our society has been brainwashing us all to NEVER accuse jews of any wrongdoing as they're supposed to be the "chosen people"...facts and mountains of evidence prove otherwise.
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/could-dual-israel-amer...

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BC
Silence isn't always golden....sometimes it's yellow.

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

There's certainly a conspiracy in our midst

but there's very little evidence that the conspirators are exclusively Jewish, at least in my extensive research of the cabalists. And, as I'm sure you know, even the "Jewish" conspirators simply masquerade as such and spend more time worshiping Caananite gods like Moloch than they ever do praising Yahweh.

Why are you propagating the oft-cited myth, and have you ever investigated information to the contrary?

"The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else."
-Frederic Bastiat
www.cerebralindustrialcomplex.com

+1

Even if "TPTB" were, for the sake of argument, exclusively Jewish, doesn't mean that every Jew is somehow in on it, and that's the part a lot of people seem to not bother factoring in their thought process.

There are obviously quite a few Jewish ("real", or using it as a shield from criticism) supremacists who wield political power in this country, but that shouldn't reflect on the majority of Jews who don't buy into that sort of nonsense.

It'd be like saying all Ron Paul supporters are White Nationalists just because a few people from Stormfront also happen to be RP supporters.

A signature used to be here!

Much of a bigot?

I think so...

Unsuspecting, willing, blind, controllable herd
Pawns in a covert game conducted by hands we trust
Dominated, compliant and deceptable
Confident that we matter - we don't see that we're but dust.

-Meshuggah "Dancers To a Discordant System"

Think?

Don't hurt yourself.

“Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.”― Henry David Thoreau

The only thing hurting

Is my head from the offensively retarded reasoning that has been on display lately. Jesus Christ, the one thing anyone should take from this "movement" is individualism and not being a collectivist or demonizing certain religions. Not all Jews are Zionist and not all Zionist are Jews, not that I personally care. Maybe you should try "hurting yourself" once in awhile by reading a book by Mises or Hayek or Menger or whoever, or if you prefer
the topic of recent issues, James Bovard. For the love of God do something to get a clue.

Unsuspecting, willing, blind, controllable herd
Pawns in a covert game conducted by hands we trust
Dominated, compliant and deceptable
Confident that we matter - we don't see that we're but dust.

-Meshuggah "Dancers To a Discordant System"

So How Come They Deleted The "Fake Blood" Post

just now?

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Yes

Yes

DIY-CSI here on assignment.

DIY-CSI here on assignment. That's all.

dude you should be careful

dude you should be careful not to name the illuminati directly. always use a safe euphemism that is elusive and means nothing lest the hammer of the illumanti come down on you.

It's not a "theory" anymore. The FBI admitted it had

Tamerlan sitting in their office and all but pointed him to the Marathon finish line. The question now is what are we going to do about it. Keep circle jerking about whether there is such a thing as a "conspiracy frame of mind," or going for the jugular now that we've got them.

So far it looks like the former.

We call for the FBI Director to resign over the Boston bombing
http://www.dailypaul.com/283707/op-ed-we-call-for-the-fbi-di...

Release the Sandy Hook video.

OK, REALLY?

"the FBI admitted it had him sitting in their office and all but pointed him to the finish line?"

Where's your proof? I want to see that.

so not only is it a false flag, but the FBI did it with Tsaernav, and instructed him how to do it. Then admitted it had done these things. I'm all ears - let's see it!

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

demanding proof is a sure

demanding proof is a sure sign that youre part of the conspiracy. and it is offensive.

OOOOhhhh

you gots me. Tell you what you deranged dipshit. Your mom wants you to get off hte internet and get a JOB. If you think my asking for "proof" of an outlandish claim means I am "part of the conspiracy" then you will apparently accept a very low burden of proof for the things you believe in. And people LIKE YOU are part of the problem -WHETHER THEY ARE MAINSTREAM, ALTERNATIVE, DAILY PAUL MEMBERS, TRUTHERS, OR ANYTHING ELSE. People who don't think are the enemy. And you're on the list.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

ARE YOU GETTING PAID BY THE ROTHSCHILDS!!?

I am pretty sure the guy who replied was being sarcastic, if not, wow.

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

hmmm

arent we all?

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Can't remember

Were we getting paid this Friday? or next Monday?

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

Just got off the phone with my handler...

he said the checks should be in the mail tomorrow, they got really busy with covering up the alien space laser attack in Bost.... I mean investigating the bombing in Boston.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

my handler said the checks come out next monday

Come to think of it, he says that every Monday though. No, it is not ridiculous to want some sort of proof of a claim like the "FBI had Tamerlane int heir opffices and directed him to bomb the finish line" That's a pretty big claim to spread around without some sort of substantiation. The commenter is correct that people who don't/refuse to think are the problem. Attacking someone for requesting some modicum of proof does not lend credibiity to your incredible claim.

Josh Brueggen
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Entrepreneur
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my handler

owes me a bonus for all the critical threads I've been posting. I'm hoping for a new Jaguar to round out my collection to an even dozen. But then I'll need a bigger helicopter (so I can airlift them to my aircraft carrier. What? I need a heli for that - no a jet won't do, my chap Winston tried that with his Aston Martin and it went straight to the bottom of the channel! Cant have that now, can we.) Now where were we? Oh yes, Bigfoot is pissed but I'll have to buy him some drinks with my bonus, too. Choices, choices.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

ooops

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"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
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