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Natural News: Bosnia war survivor warns of things to come in collapse of America

(NaturalNews) We are republishing two important stories here (with links to original sources) that you need to read. The first is a report from a man who survived the war in Bosnia. Although the source of this cannot be confirmed, the advice is extremely valuable regardless.

The second story, appended to the bottom of this article, lists 35 excuses that will get you killed if you fail to prepare for what's coming. This was originally published on SHTFplan.com and is sourced below.

Read both of these articles if you want to live.

Here's the first:

> One year in Hell...
I am from Bosnia. You know, between 1992 and 1995, it was hell. For one year, I lived and survived in a city with 6,000 people without water, electricity, gasoline, medical help, civil defense, distribution service, any kind of traditional service or centralized rule. Our city was blockaded by the army; and for one year, life in the city turned into total crap. We had no army, no police. We only had armed groups; those armed protected their homes and families.

When it all started, some of us were better prepared. But most of the neighbors' families had enough food only for a few days. Some had pistols; a few had AK-47s or shotguns.

After a month or two, gangs started operating, destroying everything. Hospitals, for example, turned into slaughterhouses. There was no more police. About 80 percent of the hospital staff were gone. I got lucky. My family at the time was fairly large (15 people in a large house, six pistols, three AKs), and we survived (most of us, at least).

The Americans dropped MREs every 10 days to help blockaded cities. This was never enough. Some -- very few -- had gardens. It took three months for the first rumors to spread of men dying from hunger and cold. We removed all the doors, the window frames from abandoned houses, ripped up the floors and burned the furniture for heat. Many died from diseases, especially from the water (two from my own family). We drank mostly rainwater, ate pigeons and even rats.

Money soon became worthless. We returned to an exchange. For a tin can of tushonka (think Soviet spam), you could have a woman. (It is hard to speak of it, but it is true.) Most of the women who sold themselves were desperate mothers.

Arms, ammunition, candles, lighters, antibiotics, gasoline, batteries and food. We fought for these things like animals. In these situations, it all changes. Men become monsters. It was disgusting.

Strength was in numbers. A man living alone getting killed and robbed would be just a matter of time, even if he was armed.

Today, me and my family are well-prepared, I am well-armed. I have experience.

It does not matter what will happen: an earthquake, a war, a tsunami, aliens, terrorists, economic collapse, uprising. The important part is that something will happen.

Here's my experience: You can't make it on your own. Don't stay apart from your family; prepare together, choose reliable friends.

Continued:
http://www.naturalnews.com/040249_Bosnia_preppers_survival_s...



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Tushonka

After reading this article I realized I've been stocking up on the wrong supplies, So I just ordered some extra cases of Tushonka (Russian spam).
Who knew?
If you're not prepared for everything, then you are not prepared.
Gotta be prepared, right?

Believe this is by Selco from

Believe this is by Selco from http://shtfschool.com

I like the way writers are

I like the way writers are using my signature phrase more and more these days; "Complete and Total Economic Collapse", that I've been saying for years in my many writings.

I am all for being prepped

I am all for being prepped but, in truth you can't prep for everything. Everything you can stock pile can be taken by a bigger more powerful force. I think people who spend to much life worried about dieing never live.

Everyone is born dieing. Just don't forget to live before you do!

I agree with you in principle and get your point

but it is like a lot of things - prepping for survival can be the best living you ever do.

Go buy a book on edible plants and go take the kids to the woods this weekend. Not exactly "prepping", but prepping none the less.

Try to build a fire without matches or a magnesium bar next weekend(and the next and the next - cause it isnt easy). Not exactly prepping -but prepping none the less.

Try to find water where it seems there is none. Do a solar still. Try to boil water without a pot.

Build a trap, a dead fall or something to try to catch a mouse or a rodent(traps and such are illegal in many states, dont go announcing).

As for me - I worry not about myself - hell I think I might actually enjoy living like that. It is those who put there trust in me for safety that I worry about - my wife and my kids. I prep for them, not me.

Living resourcefully is living abundantly

I like the way you guys roll and role model! Like many others here, we're trying to invest much of our time, talents, and resources in serving our families and communities in a way that honors God and conscience in ways that will impact our counties, states, and our nation as a whole.

We're tempted to feel that a sabbath break to worship, or an outing in the woods is somehow impractical, even risky; because some urgent prepping item or skill needs to be acquired before such thing can be prioritized highly. We would like to believe that the kingdom of God ought to be sought first because receiving the promise of, "all these things shall be added unto you", sounds better than trying to tough it out without, "grace to help in time of need".

Actually, my experience has been that folks who enjoy living simply, and are more at home in the wild than most; enjoy life more in practical ways than citified folks who are too caught up in their high tech toys and appliances. There is something about getting nourishment from nature, while providing safety and comfort to those near and dear to us; that proves to us that we still have a connection to that original garden, and the God who made us from the dust and breathed life into us there.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

When one correctly sorts "needs" from "wants" abundance follows

From that abundance, one can share.
A small permaculture / aquaponics set up can be the "seed farm" for a dozen more set ups, every couple of months.
If the "starving hoards" show up and I am able to show them how to set themselves up to never be starving again, will they kill me? Maybe, but I'm willing to give it a try. If the murderous thugs show up, maybe I will have enough formerly starving friends to stick up for me, and help me start over after they trash my farm looking for some bul$hit that is not there. That is assuming they go easy on me and just assault me, falsely imprison me, destroy my home and livelihood, then quietly clear me of whatever trumped up charges they used to ruin my reputation. You know, if I "win in court."

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Resource concealment and discrete sharing are difficult

Early on, the differences aren't so great, but those who are nourished verses those who lack will make attract attention to where and when food is accessed by those nourished folks. Farming, even wildcraft plant planting, requires a community to tend and defend or critters of all kinds will wipe out your efforts before you can reap the rewards of it.

Offering instruction on building a nourishing garden, or a system of farming; when facing folks with immediate wants and needs, isn't likely to work persuasively and will require a multi-layered defensive strategy to help decide who lives better or not.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

A lifestyle cannot be quickly described.

If we can get our place set up as we envision, there will always be crops coming on, always be food available, always be work for those willing to be part of a community. No one will be greeted like a "prodigal son" - they will be greeted like a dumb-ass who did not wake up in time to learn anything useful, but they will also be offered forgiveness and a crash course in what they need to know. It is always best to assume a dumbass could be dangerous, and treat them as such.
I am about practical solutions, not kumbaya. If I get an AP system in every community I can, then we will all look well nourished. And I am not the only one doing this, there are people all over the world who see what I see - a real solution, that averts the "starving masses" scene altogether.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

I hear you and agree

Practical solutions are crucial, but they do not exclude true spirituality. Even though some folk tritely excuse themselves with spiritual sounding phrases, only those grounded in a practical application of faith will be able to fully access the strength God provides to the humble.

Loving your neighbor as yourself necessarily includes the practical steps you're describing, whether done for spiritual reasons or not.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

Agreed... Typically folks

Agreed... Typically folks prep with some dreamed up future scenario to prepare for. So many people envision a little house on the Prairie scenario, others mad max, and yet others see Germany WW II. It could be a super bug, nuclear war, and one of a million things in our future. The one thing I can promise everyone of you for certain is death from life on earth is in your future.

While you are horizontal enjoy it. If lawless killing and people starving become the normal I certainly won't fear death. In fact in that scenario I would fear living. All I am saying is balance it out. Don't live for the bad days. Enjoy the good ones. If life gets as bad as some predict it won't be much of a life no matter what you have.

How many people prepped and spent tons of time getting ready for an event and are now in a cemetery? As much as we want to control our future we just can't. I think God chuckles as we plan our future. Build a tornado shelter and an earth quake hits... Buy fire insurance and it floods... It takes faith to live find it... We have to adapt to whatever the future brings... We will never be able to cover all the bases. Again who would want to? Life is to short to try.

Those that ridicule you

Those people that ridicule you for preparing for SHTF, and events such as the one in this article, will be the first to complain that you did not do enough when the time comes.
Have you ever noticed those people who complain because the weather (or internal environment) is too cold, will also be the first to complain when the weather gets hot?

The Grasshopper and the Ant

That story is what I think of in cases like this.

skippy

People are lemings

I think people just don't realize how thin and fragile the line between civilization and total f*((k)ing anarchy is. My father-in-law, a good guy, couldnt understand why my wife and I store various items such as food, hygiene, first-aid gear, ammo, seeds and of course water. He lives in SoCal. So I asked him, what if there is a bad earthquake what are you going to do? His reply was - go to the grocery store. (sigh)

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

Lemmings got a bad rap, the myth was man made

We were feed the, "leaping lemmings", lie to help make suicide, even mass genocide, somehow natural; and therefore acceptable because if the theory can be planted in people the idea that this is how nature inspires behavior when populations become too dense; then we are conditioned to accept when they are imposed on us by war and other acts of government and criminals.

"The misconception of lemming "mass suicide" is long-standing and has been popularized by a number of factors. In 1955, Disney Studio illustrator Carl Barks drew an Uncle Scrooge adventure comic with the title "The Lemming with the Locket". This comic, which was inspired by a 1953 American Mercury article, showed massive numbers of lemmings jumping over Norwegian cliffs.[10][11] Even more influential was the 1958 Disney film White Wilderness, which won an Academy Award for Documentary Feature, in which staged footage was shown with lemmings jumping into certain death after faked scenes of mass migration.[12] A Canadian Broadcasting Corporation documentary, Cruel Camera, found the lemmings used for White Wilderness were flown from Hudson Bay to Calgary, Alberta, Canada, where they did not jump off the cliff, but were in fact launched off the cliff using a turntable.[13]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemming

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

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Excellent Post

thanks!

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

People are so caught up in

People are so caught up in their normalcy bias that they can't imagine a standard of living less than anything we've seen for the last 40 years.

It kills me to think about the world our kids will grow up in.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

My Stupid Neighbor

Says I am "too pushy" about trying to convince her of my conspiracy theories. I very seldom ever mention anything to her and it's only when she starts it but still, I am "too pushy" What's with that? She will call me up to ask about stuff but if I answer I am being pushy. Hah!

skippy

This post covers a lot

I agree with John. There are too many distracted Americans. Most just don't give 2 shits about anything important. New iPhone, new cars, careers, NFL, new house, etc.

Just imagine if all adults within the US didn't buy gas for one day. Or if all adults bought 2-1ounch silver coins on one day. Or if 6% of farmer's crops in all of the US were hemp.

F***!

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.