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D.C. Police: We Will Arrest Adam Kokesh and Open Carry Supporters



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Against the law?

Who cares what a bunch of armed thugs say is against the law? They made the law and they made it for their own benefit and protection. it doesn't make it moral or legitimate.
The point of this whole thing is to say enough is enough and to draw a line in the stand. They will either back down or INITIATE violence. If the latter they show their true colors and should lose even the backing of people like you.
It was legal to nail Jesus Christ to the cross. It was legal to throw the Jews into the ovens. It was legal to own slaves in the U.S. It was legal to murder the Indians and steal their land. It is legal to rob americans(if you are part of government).
Legal doesn't equal moral. So will you back what is moral or obey what is legal? Gonna follow orders and do your job or do what is right?

The problem

is "armed thugs" didn't make the laws. The American people did.

It's true we abdicated responsibility to corrupt politicians, and didn't have the oversight we should have, but we had the opportunity to. For that reason ALL Americans are just as complicit in the laws we have now as anybody.

So you can't do an about face by jumping to forceful means immediately. You won't have the right support, nor should you.

Armed thugs did and

do make the laws. The term "american people" is meaningless. There is no collective will out there. And even if there was it wouldn't make it moral.
I never abdicated responsibility to anyone as I chose no rulers or masters. They only rule by force not consent. That is how all authoritarianism works. Believing you have a say or are part of the system makes you a fool and or a dupe.

What laws did you make?

I sure didn't make any. I never abdicated anything to anybody. And I don't worship in the cult of authority, like you so don't include me in your collective guilt for the sorry state things are in. You picked your rulers, I didn't.

How involved

have you been in our governmental process?

How often have you contacted your elected representatives, protested them, or run for something yourself as the case may be? If you say you've been active on some legal topic or issue daily, weekly, monthly as the case may be over time then you're excused.

And no, sitting on your hands, not talking to people/neighbors etc. because of refusing to participate in a "corrupt system" is NOT a valid excuse. It's a cop out.

Elected rep?

I don't have a master. I don't vote for my own slavery and exploitation. Voting is for sheeple not freemen.
Don't drag me into your collective guilt for a system out of control. I am an anarchist and am opposed to all political rule and the initiation of force by any and all gangs.

I dont know about a massacre,

I dont know about a massacre, more like a huge running gun battle.

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robot999's picture

Feeding right into the narrative of

"Domestic Terrorist". The MSM will have a heyday, and the smart patriots will be left holding the bag. Bad, bad idea.

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

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Getting the message out?

Will a mob with guns spread all of the great libertarian messages to those uninitiated, such as peace, non-aggression, sound money, ending the fed, civil liberties, person responsibility, etc.?

Or will people watch it on the news and think that they are psychopaths?

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fusion centres must be

fusion centres must be getting some use, ignorantly making our case, i wouldnt put it past them to disrupt transportation, if it looks like a large attendance, i wonder if they will cordon off the general area, wonder if they'll bring in massive amounts of officers, millitary?
i just imagined the patriots changing location to a "legal" site at the last minute, and having it look like the whitehouse being undersieged by.......the police the military.....mmm, followed by the thought of, concentrated tyrrany

be safe, be ghandi

CAN'T BE LOADED!!!!

PLAIN AND SIMPLE! So I guess everyone that comes loaded will be arrested. Un-loaded IS GOOD!

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Agents Provocateur

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"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

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But then what's the point?

They might as well carry signs or bunches of flowers.

(I'm not a supporter of the March personally)

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Some accounting figures about the Katyn massacre's executions

Some accounting data/figures about the Katyn massacre's executions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre#Executions

"[...]The number of victims is estimated at about 22,000, with a lower bound of confirmed dead of 21,768. According to Soviet documents declassified in 1990, 21,857 Polish internees and prisoners were executed after 3 April 1940: 14,552 prisoners of war (most or all of them from the three camps) and 7,305 prisoners in western parts of the Belarusian and Ukrainian SSRs. Of them 4,421 were from Kozelsk, 3,820 from Starobelsk, 6,311 from Ostashkov, and 7,305 from Belarusian and Ukrainian prisons. Head of the NKVD POW department, Maj. General P.K. Soprunenko, organized "selections" of Polish officers to be massacred at Katyn and elsewhere. Those who died at Katyn included an admiral, two generals, 24 colonels, 79 lieutenant colonels, 258 majors, 654 captains, 17 naval captains, 3,420 NCOs, seven chaplains, three landowners, a prince, 43 officials, 85 privates, 131 refugees, 20 university professors, 300 physicians; several hundred lawyers, engineers, and teachers; and more than 100 writers and journalists as well as about 200 pilots. In all, the NKVD executed almost half the Polish officer corps. Altogether, during the massacre the NKVD murdered 14 Polish generals[...]"

All carefully, thoroughly disarmed or coerced, beforehand.

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Visions of Guantanamo danced in my head, reading your comment

I wonder if Obama is going to be forced to purge his prison of all the prisoners -- and, I wonder also if the Soviets were forced to because of knowledge that (some of) the prisoners had that could be used against them?

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Although I respectfully disagree with Adam

Although I respectfully disagree with Adam on the benefits we can hope from tempting the devil in his own lair so early, I want to make clear it's in no way because of underestimating the 2nd Amendment.

Hell, no. If only for one, let's just remember Katyn, shall we?

And help other people around us to have recollection of these horrors, too:


http://youtu.be/rmfs_QM0OIA

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Law abiding gun owning

Law abiding American gun owning civilians are getting fed up with our government employees trampling on us, taking our rights, and imprisoning us. We're sick and tired if it.

Time to show them who is boss.

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So you'll be there then?

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"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

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So be it.

What saddens me is I advocated and called, SEVERAL TIMES already, for a similar massive march BY, FOR, WITH the 1st Amendment, TO BEGIN WITH, here:

http://www.dailypaul.com/284543/i-cannot-help-but-re-read-th...

And there:

http://www.dailypaul.com/274700/martin-luther-king-jr-has-sh...

And there:

http://www.dailypaul.com/274406/enough-is-enough-do-we-want-...

Yet, STILL very few of us seem interested.

I guess America needs to linger some more.

I find odd a much riskier way is thought about, today, instead of a simpler, much safer one, as I proposed, that even the statists would have hard times to forbid without dropping the mask hiding their ugly face.

Indeed. Why go for the safe, wise, simple, powerful, when we can go for the hazardous, opiniated, complicated, and desperate-sounding?

In truth: I am asking you? Why, really? "SIMPLE" sucks, doesn't it?!

The peoples will never cease to amaze me.

But, okay, America. So be it.

I tried to send my message about what wiser, IMO, at least. It's on record.

Links above for the refresher.

I wish us/Adam good luck.

Sorry if I sound bitter.

It's also SINCERE, so...

"Bear."

Thanks.

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Adam Kokesh is a natural born

Adam Kokesh is a natural born proven leader with a heart of gold.

God Love Adam and stand by his side. I do.

LEADERSHIP

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I like Adam very much, too.

I like Adam very much, too. I've always said so.

If only for his stand.

But I'm just in disagreement with him on this one.

I wish he'd have managed to do the same using THE POWER OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT, which protects ALL THE OTHERS, btw.

It's not only about the 2nd Amendment protecting the 1st, America, mind you.

Without the 1st... you'd have NOTHING else. Hellllloooo.

Why not use it - MASSIVELY OUTDOORS - WHEN WE'RE IN DIRE NEED to do so?!

(And not just to speak out against gun control, but also against fake money, rent-seeking in Congress, undeclared wars, etc)

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The Federal Government is out

The Federal Government is out of control and we need to re-establish proper order before the complete and total economic collapse. Now seems to be the optimal time to do so. I've studied economics for 35 years and I feel we need to act soon. This is our best opportunity to do so.

I don't know what

you're thinking, but if you call "proper order" Austrian economics as most people on this site believe, then re-establishing it will assuredly result in a dollar collapse.

We've printed too many dollars to back them with gold now. There are trillions of them. Any establishment of a gold standard would destroy what little value and confidence people still give to the dollar. It would be a race to own gold and an absolute dollar crash, in other words.

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And I respect your opinion.

And I respect your opinion.

I can only pray I'm wrong (on the method). "For once."

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He is going to need at least

He is going to need at least 500-1000 peope if he wants to make an impact, otherwise they will just arrest everyone an not much will happen.
If more than 1000 people show up. They wont be able to do anything because there will be too many. Unless maybe they call in half the cops in the city, but then there is the problem that they will have no where to put everyone if they do manage to arrest them.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

What if 1 million peaceful

What if 1 million peaceful armed gun owners Marched on D.C. on the 4th of July?

I'd like to see who's boss then.

I did call on a million man gun march on D.C. in my past writings. If Adam took up this call I made or did it on his own, I will March with Adam.

We need to show the politicians in DC and the MSM who is really in charge of our country.

That's not peaceful

though.

If the police responded enforcing the law using force as their job demands then what would be the result? Not peace.

Seems understanding

She seemed kind and understanding, but she has a job to do... and that is how the police are going to look at it especially if they fit in with the status quo... They have jobs... But Adam and whom ever may march... Your best way to make a impact is not to look crazy... Be careful have fun and God speed.