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To All Who Believe there Were No Injuries in Boston:

First of all, let me make it clear: I know I am considered a "conspiracy theorist." You can take a look at my post history to verify that. The way I see it, the Boston Bombings were orchestrated by TPTB and carried out by military intelligence in coordination with police, and the whole thing from the marathon to the arrest of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev WAS a drill.

However, seeing all the comments from people on the DP about how "no one was injured" and "the injuries were all faked" prompted me to create this thread.

I live 45 minutes North of Boston and my family knows people who were injured at the marathon. The daughter of my Aunt's boss had shrapnel from one of the explosions lodged into her and had to go to the hospital; my mother also knows a man from her gym whose son lost appendages and required amputation. Obama actually visited him and the other people who lost appendages in the Hospital personally.

So please stop spreading that kind of false information. It reminds me of the childish "no one died on 9/11" crowd.



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How's your basil growing?

1) I forgot to mention it's funny that you mentioned you grow basil when I just suggested that cointelpro should take a break and garden. It's as if you were seriously trying to prove you weren't cointelpro because you grow basil and like bonsai. Come on EricHoffer you go to admit that is funny.

2) It's also very funny that you pretend you just suddenly noticed my signature about 9-11 in the midst of finishing your response and asking a question about no one dying in the 9-11 WTC attacks. It's as if you don't remember I just mentioned the BP HOAX in an earlier response and clearly pointed out that you made a youtube video to support the official story. You didn't even bother to ridicule me about the BP HOAX theory, an incident that supposedly hit very close to home and instead of trying to ridicule the BP HOAX theory you try to ridicule me about the 'Did anyone die on 9-11?' theory. Come on EricHoffer,you have to admit that is pretty funny too.

To all you in military intelligence. People are people. We're all of the same fabric. DPers... military intelligence.. everyone. Brothers. People make mistakes. People learn. You do things because you get paid just like everyone else. Maybe you think there is too much risk and no reward from resisting your command structure and helping to expose the grand scale of the deceit, but who knows what may happen? Who really knows the future?

Maybe it's a blood oath from some initiation.... an initiation of death and rebirth .. and sharing that experience with a group of people that solidifies your loyalty.. or is it the pressure of peers? Maybe it's just the specialness of being part of a secret brotherhood... but could that be just a method to control you? Is the 'secret knowledge' that you strive to obtain just the carrot of control? Does it feel right? The deceit? The feeling of superiority? Does that resonate with you? Or do other feelings and actions resonate?

I've lied before and even if they were considered white lies, I feel they echoed out the wrong vibrations out to the universe. It did not feel good. On the other hand many of us here are fighting for truth and justice because it feels good. It resonates and echoes positive vibrations out into the universe.

Aren't we all brothers, whether in the 'secret' brotherhood or not? We all learn and grow individually and sure we get help along the way from many different places. You may be intrigued and compelled by the teachings of the secret brotherhood, but should that make you beholden to them? Or are you really part of a larger brotherhood of man and universe, not just part of special secret one. I believe that you and everyone have the power to change anything. I believe in a future of infinite possibilities. I hope you all do too.

9-11 Media Fakery: Did anyone die on 9-11?
http://www.cluesforum.info/

http://www.septemberclues.info/

9-11 Actors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aPvJSQtmoE

Pysops.. media.. actors.. propagandists... disinfo agents.. fake videos.. fake photos

Uhh...

1) I forgot to mention it's funny that you mentioned you grow basil when I just suggested that cointelpro should take a break and garden. It's as if you were seriously trying to prove you weren't cointelpro because you grow basil and like bonsai. Come on EricHoffer you go to admit that is funny.

Mentioning what I grow in fact WAS a response to your take a break and garden point, I was just pointing out what I DO grow. Though I started in the last year or so and I don't have much room on my balcony. Subsequently, how would whether or not someone gardens have anything to do with cointel pro? Is your argument that a cointel pro person wouldn't have a garden? How is that rational?

2) It's also very funny that you pretend you just suddenly noticed my signature about 9-11 in the midst of finishing your response and asking a question about no one dying in the 9-11 WTC attacks.

Did you not notice that I was replying to the things you said? I even quote you in italics for the most part. But yeah, I just noticed your signature in that post, usually I ignore them. I was of course prompted to look at it because you mentioned that in your post in the first place.

It's as if you don't remember I just mentioned the BP HOAX in an earlier response and clearly pointed out that you made a youtube video to support the official story.

Uhhh... why would I not remember that? I responded directly to that in the response to that comment. Did you not read the comment or something?

You didn't even bother to ridicule me about the BP HOAX theory, an incident that supposedly hit very close to home and instead of trying to ridicule the BP HOAX theory you try to ridicule me about the 'Did anyone die on 9-11?' theory.

If you were present in that thread, I did plenty of ridiculing for that theory then. As for close to home... I'm in the Detroit area. I just happen to have my office location inside of RTI Labs, where they did analysis on the water near the spill. If you seriously need to be ridiculed though: You're an idiot for supporting either theory in light of the evidence to the contrary. Feel better?

Come on EricHoffer,you have to admit that is pretty funny too.

I don't know if it's funny "ha-ha" so much as painfully, exasperatingly depressing.

To all you in military intelligence. People are people. We're all of the same fabric. DPers... military intelligence.. everyone. Brothers. People make mistakes. People learn. You do things because you get paid just like everyone else. Maybe you think there is too much risk and no reward from resisting your command structure and helping to expose the grand scale of the deceit, but who knows what may happen? Who really knows the future?

Earns an LOL. I've said it once, I'll say it a thousand times. If there's a government program that sends out checks for refuting your nonsense, I'm due some SERIOUS back pay.

I've lied before and even if they were considered white lies, I feel they echoed out the wrong vibrations out to the universe. It did not feel good. On the other hand many of us here are fighting for truth and justice because it feels good. It resonates and echoes positive vibrations out into the universe.

So pushing poorly thought out theories based on scant evidence sends out what kind of echo?

Aren't we all brothers, whether in the 'secret' brotherhood or not? We all learn and grow individually and sure we get help along the way from many different places.

I feel a kum ba yah coming on.

You may be intrigued and compelled by the teachings of the secret brotherhood, but should that make you beholden to them?

Actually, I was more into the robes and hoods. That and I have a fetish for owls and Latin.

Or are you really part of a larger brotherhood of man and universe, not just part of special secret one. I believe that you and everyone have the power to change anything. I believe in a future of infinite possibilities. I hope you all do too.

Oh me too! Me too! Can I have some Kool-Aid? These snakes sure look fun to play with.

Eric Hoffer

It's interesting that you continue to respond to my remarks..

that are directed toward military intelligence. It's like you feel obligated to defend yourself because if you are not part of military intelligence the easier way is to just not respond because my remarks wouldn't be directed at you. You either like wasting time or you are on OT. Anyways I was serious about my remarks to military intelligence so whether or not I ABSOLUTELY believe you are cointelpro it's all good. We are brothers nonetheless. Have a good day and take care.

9-11 Media Fakery: Did anyone die on 9-11?
http://www.cluesforum.info/

http://www.septemberclues.info/

9-11 Actors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aPvJSQtmoE

Pysops.. media.. actors.. propagandists... disinfo agents.. fake videos.. fake photos

Uhhh

Guy, you mentioned me by name. That kinda makes it response worthy for me.

It's like you feel obligated to defend yourself because if you are not part of military intelligence the easier way is to just not respond because my remarks wouldn't be directed at you.

Or it could be because I like beating you with a stick in the verbal banter game. Or let me rephrase your arguments, "You should ignore me even though I'm talking all sorts of crap, because if you engage and refute me you're really just proving my point."

Yeah, no thanks there guy.

You either like wasting time or you are on OT.

Still waiting on my check for my services rendered. I'll go check the mail again after noon.

Anyways I was serious about my remarks to military intelligence so whether or not I ABSOLUTELY believe you are cointelpro it's all good.

Not a problem. This obviously isn't a childish schoolyard method of making a point, but sure!

We are brothers nonetheless. Have a good day and take care.

Kum ba yah my lord... kum ba yah!

Eric Hoffer

it's disinfo | diversion

Kooks: “THERE WAS NO INJURIES! IT WAS FAKE! FALSE FLAG! ACTORS! DRILLS!”

Any Regular, Anti-Conspirational-Minded Persons: *think* (“There were obviously the injuries reported, that must mean that 'false flag' and 'drills' are nonsense lies too. It's all just crazy idiocy.”) “Obama! Obama! Obama! USA! USA! USA!”

Possible Drills & Possible False Flag Perpetraitors: *collective sigh of relief*

Disinfo Disseminating “No Injuries; It Was Actors” Spooks: *collect paychecks with bonuses*

It's sad there are people who honestly believe that injured were actors. I blame their retardation on the public school system in the United States.

And I blame Spooks who influence Kooks.

Also the “theory” that any of the injured were actors, ISN'T theory. There is no theory about it. It is completely made up, totally fabricated nonsense.

call me names to my face you coward

... looking forward to your apology

sure

But your face is covered with all that hair...oh wait...that's

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

I'm not in the "no injuries" camp ...

... I'm in the "something does not add up, do you have a reasonable explanation" camp.

Two things --

(1) Even weeks after the event, we are told there are over 200 people with injuries (264 was the last number I saw). There is NO WAY in hell there were 200 people at those two locations, most people there ran away, and a few were left behind. Where is a list of names of 200 people who were injured? Where is the evidence there were even 200+ people near the two bomb sites? This particular part of the story is not true. So, then the question becomes: Why would somebody lie about the number?

(2) Jeff Baumann. I don't know what happened. But, I do not believe a person could sustain such massive injuries and be (a) conscious, (b) alert and sitting upright in a wheelchair, and (c) not dead. I know there is a theory of how it MIGHT have happened that he didn't lose much blood, but where is the EVIDENCE that it really happened that way?

Hell, where it the INTELLECTUAL CURIOSITY of people who are hell bent on believing that this particular bomb plot is the FIRST and ONLY such plot that was NOT run by the FBI? Do you just suspend any attempt at intellectual curiosity if a government "official" tells you what to believe? Where is a desire to look for EVIDENCE in ALL cases, no matter who the suspects might be?

You support the "official" government theory? Fine. Now, where is the ... EVIDENCE ... to back it up?

They do fake the numbers frequently

They do fake the numbers frequently, I agree.

6 million in the Holocaust is one example.

I think they count anyone with an ear ache or PTSD among the

injured. It's my experience that the injured numbers are almost always exaggerated.

Something to keep in mind

I think I saw nibiru in the

I think I saw nibiru in the replays....

Ha-ha, I can appreciate the

Ha-ha, I can appreciate the jab.
Was never in the niburu 2012 camp though!

wow

that is some good cold dry humor there my man!

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Hehehehe

Hehehehe

To be fair...If those who

To be fair...

If those who believe in the actors/hoax theme are to be censored, shouldn't posts also be censored that discuss the 'no actors/no hoax' theme? Just asking...as these types of posts will only provoke the other side into responding.

Personally, I don't think either side should be censored for asking questions and debating any topic. Topics should live or die on their own merit...but this isn't my site and obviously Michael can run it as he chooses. I'd just hate to see a lot of good people get banned or leave the DP over this.

At the end of the day, this particular issue is just a speck of sand on the beach of tyranny. There are too many other things we should be talking about.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

in a word, no

first of all, censorship is something done by a government. Unless the government is censoring Daily Paul, there is no censorship taking place.

Second, the actors / fake blood/ space alien theory is complete absurdity, in all of its different forms. There is no need to talk about it except to point out how stupid it is. In fact, it is so absurd that if it didn't have its brain-addled fans here posting about it, no one would think to discuss it, because it is absurd.

Third, no you don't have any constitutional right to go to anyone's website and post whatever you want. It just doesn't work that way.

Fourth, as pointed out ad nauseum, posting about fake blood actor theories makes this site and all of us by extension look like lunatics. Posting things critical of that does not.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

"Censorship is the

"Censorship is the suppression of speech or other public communication which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or inconvenient as determined by a government, media outlet, or other controlling body"...

Sort of how the media censored Dr. Paul?

Aliens? What are you even talking about?

"Third, no you don't have any constitutional right to go to anyone's website and post whatever you want"...

Again...what are you even talking about? Are you referring to something I've said? Do you just make things up as you go?

"Fourth, as pointed out ad nauseum, posting about fake blood actor theories makes this site and all of us by extension look like lunatics. Posting things critical of that does not"...

Thanks for giving your opinion and letting everyone know their views couldn't possibly have any merit. What topics in the future will be deemed 'off limits'?

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

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A good rule of thumb...

If it can be found on Rense, it's retarded.

If in the face of undeniable evidence, you continue to demand more evidence. If once proven to be incorrect, you ignore the evidence in favor of your fantasies.... these would all be indicators.

http://www.dailypaul.com/285071/the-stupid-question

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

You mean like the undeniable

You mean like the undeniable evidence that 19 men with boxcutters took down 3 WTC buildings with 2 airplanes?

By the way, while you're trashing Rense...let me give you the best resource EVER put online...

http://rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm

That my friend...is the key to leading a healthy life...not following the moronic food pyramid.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

wolfe's picture

There you go...

You are using diversionary tactics.

No. But it is undeniable that planes crashed, that people and passengers died. That there was no plane diversion.

Or to deny that Boston bombings killed and mutilated people, despite the evidence is retarded.

If you want to point out scientific and motivational evidence in support of a theory, fine. If you want to ignore facts, in favor of fantasy, well, that sounds like a personal problem to me.

But to spout nonsense along with real information or questions, destroys your credibility, and any kind of legitimate discussion on the topic.

Oh, and about the Ph crap. There is no single "answer" to health, and anyone who claims such is -- re -- wait for it -- tarded.

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

who exactly are you talking

who exactly are you talking to? Have I stated anywhere that I believe in aliens? Have I stated that nobody was hurt in Boston?

It's a slippery slope...once one topic is deemed off limits, then there will be another...then another. The DP is a great resource and I simply don't want to see people leaving en masse.

and please brother...don't even try engage me with a debate on health and nutrition.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

wolfe's picture

I'm talking to someone who...

believes it is acceptable to question whether people who's lives were damaged beyond anything you can imagine after the bombing are in fact actual victims!

I am talking to someone who quotes -Rense- as a source.

As far as health. You believe yourself to be an expert on the matter? Interesting.

I can prove my statement in a single question.

Can someone in perfect pH balance die of scurvy? Yes. They can.

There is no one "answer" to health, and if you believe so, then you have already given up an attempt at understanding.

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

"believes it is acceptable to

"believes it is acceptable to question whether people who's lives were damaged beyond anything you can imagine after the bombing are in fact actual victims!"

I have no problem with adults discussing anything they would like that's legal (and even many things that are illegal because of ridiculous laws).

"As far as health. You believe yourself to be an expert on the matter?"

Yes. More than you would know. It's been my life for over 30 years.

"Can someone in perfect pH balance die of scurvy?"

Anyone can die of anything at any time. Some people have poor genetics. Some just have bad luck. Some people's ailments are stress related.

If you want to look at the root causes of most sickness and disease though, it all goes back to what people are eating. An acidic diet is a breeding ground for disease.

I also practice what I preach. I've been to the doctor probably twice in the last 40 years...both times in wakeboarding accidents (busted eardrum and a concussion). Compare that to your average 50 year old.

"There is no one "answer" to health, and if you believe so, then you have already given up an attempt at understanding"...

Of course there is no one answer. Who said there was? Many people are predisposed to all sorts of diseases and illnesses.

It all starts with your diet though. If you have an acidic diet, I can virtually assure you that you'll be visiting the doctor and hospital more than twice over 40 years.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Wolfe is retarded

my first blocked user in 6 years @ DP
... also cancelled $120 per year support of DP for censoring the truth about the 4/15/13 Boston hoax

... looking forward to a more honest Daily Paul

Wolfe is the only one of his kind running around here these days

You can't swing a live crisis actor without hitting one of his kind.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

wolfe's picture

Not true...

I have seen a number intelligent and thoughtful posters still hanging out. If it wasn't for them, I would have already left the DP for you guys.

But if it wasn't for you, I am sure the government would have already won the fight. Keep up the good work.

The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.thephilosophyofliberty.com/

I don't even

believe that the race happened. I think the crowd was a hologram projected from an alien spacecraft from the future.....and while I'm at it Rand Paul is just an alien shapeshifting reptileman inserted into the Paul family to fool us all.

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

about the reptilians

I ran over one of them on my mountain bike this morning. It didn't look a thing like Rand. I am therefore skeptical of your theory.

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Boston is not even a real city

The buildings are hollow. The Soviets and Chinese made fake cities therefore my reasoning is sound. I looked at GPS and "satellite" images of Boston and it is clearly FAKE!

Nothing is off the table! No queations and no ideas are too stupid to talk about! Jon is a fascist for censoring us!!!!