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Dad who died during arrest 'begged for his life'; witness videos seized

The Kern County Sheriff's Office says Silva resisted, a canine was deployed, more law enforcement arrived, batons were used and the man later had trouble breathing. He was taken to KMC, where he died. An autopsy was slated for Thursday, but no results have been released.

Some witnesses apparently took cellphone video of the incident but deputies moved quickly to seize the phones. The Sheriff's Office, after releasing a statement Wednesday and naming its officers Thursday, declined all further comment.

People who say they witnessed the incident as well as Silva's family members described a scene in which deputies essentially were beating a helpless man to death. They were indignant that cellphone video had been taken away by deputies.

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Fire and Prosecute

Everyone of those police officers should be fired and prosecuted for murder, You can't continue beating a defenseless man and any officer there that did not participate in the beating should be prosecuted for manslaughter for not stopping it. I would rather take my chances against a criminal than a police officer. Atleast I can defend myself against a criminal.

Thomas Jefferson-All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.

Cyril's picture

NINE of them were there when this man died

NINE of them were there when this man died from his being beaten and his injuries.

NINE.

And nobody will ever know WHY he had to die.

Even those PIGS probably don't know why. Let's call a spade "a spade", shall we?

Except maybe that they enjoyed doing or watching this killing, in band.

Couldn't it be?

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

this is . . .

beyond outrageous.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Cyril's picture

Indeed.

Indeed.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Never Beg Cops For Your Life

It simply stimulates their adrenaline and bloodlust and results in even further harm to the victim.

speechless..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od-aVgkghyc

Garnet
Daughter of 1776 American Revolutionists

Download the streaming copblock app

That way if you are ever a witness to something, there is nothing a cop can do to delete your video.

http://www.copblock.org/apps/

"They were indignant that

"They were indignant that cellphone video had been taken away by deputies."

And so they bloody well should be, what the hell does the government and their followers think that bloody well looks like .......to those who actually believe in civil liberties, something so serious as a life taken, and yes, a life is not some trivial matter to be snuffed out, without a VERY good reason

.........speechless *shaking head*

Hopefully they don't destroy

the videos.
A few weeks back in Omaha the cops confiscated the cell phone of someone filming the Omaha Cops being abusive and then the cop destroyed it. He is now facing charges along with his supervisor
for trying to cover up their actions.
http://www.omaha.com/article/20130506/NEWS/130509755/1685

I just can't bring myself to read it

but thank you for posting, and bump.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Disgusting!

Why did the people hand over their phones? I would have said hell no!

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine

"Why did the people hand over

"Why did the people hand over their phones?"
Public schools.

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.

From my perspective as a criminal law attorney...

... it is almost always a good idea, when law enforcement is insisting that you take some action (turning over your phone, pulling off to the side of the road, or putting your hands behind your back, for instance), to comply and then seek legal redress later. While I do not want to paint with too broad of a brush, some cops are bullies and/or prone to outbursts, and will use an "in the field" confrontation as an excuse to engage in significant physical violence. (That may have been exactly what happened in Bakersfield.) In general, it is better to wait for a safe forum (like a courtroom) to "make your stand." Being "in the right" will be small comfort if you are in the hospital, or dead.

P.S.: If you are pulled over while driving at night, I recommend turning the interior (overhead) light in your car on, remaining in the vehicle, and keeping your hands on the steering wheel as the law enforcement officer approaches. Encourage the other occupants to keep their hands empty and in sight. This will tend to make the cop "feel safe" and lead to a less stressful encounter.

A Constitutional, Christian conservative who voted for Ron and stands with Rand

I think that is probably very

I think that is probably very good advice. Especially with this group of out of control cops who had just finished murdering some poor guy. They probably would not care if they killed just one person or two or three.

Larry in North Carolina
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I get the hilarious picture

I get the hilarious picture of this somehow equating the cop as a dog. Dont make any sudden movements etc etc and this will lead to a less stressful encounter with the animal.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

What about repeatedly telling

What about repeatedly telling the officer that I'm not resisting but I do not consent to giving him my phone? That worked in the incident during the caucuses where the chairman was thrown on the ground by officers and had his bones broken and an officer tried making a witness give him his phone that was still recording. The officer didn't touch the guy with the phone and eventually gave up.

That is a good one. You can

That is a good one. You can also fall back on the standard "Am I being detained?" if the answer is YES then make them cite the suspicion, if NO then you walk away.

We all share this eternally evolving present moment- The past and future only exist as inconsequential mental fabrications.

fair enough

but if they dont let you walk away, so much for correct procedure~

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

While I have never practiced in California...

... I have been a member of the Florida Bar since 2002, and spent two years as an Assistant State Attorney (prosecutor), in addition to my eight years as an Assistant Public Defender.

There are good and bad cops, and I have seen my share of illegal and, occasionally, truly ugly behavior by law enforcement. One of my big concerns is that State Attorney's Offices feel that they must take the side of law enforcement because they need reciprocal cooperation in order to successfully prosecute crime. This can lead to serious police misconduct being ignored, when that same conduct would be vigorously prosecuted if engaged in by a civilian. Even when an Assistant State Attorney wants to pursue evenhanded justice (and, in my experience in Florida State courts, most do, at least early in their careers), those at the top (the elected State Attorney and his inner circle of Assistants) tend to intervene to protect law enforcement.

I raise this issue because State Attorneys (sometimes called District Attorneys in other states) are often elected, and those of us in the Liberty Movement need to support candidates who will pursue a more evenhanded relationship with law enforcement.

A Constitutional, Christian conservative who voted for Ron and stands with Rand

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In this case, on cannot but

In this case, on cannot but notice it's not just one...

... or two...

... or three...

... or four...

...

... but NINE "cops" after a suspect.... who eventually DIED from his injuries.

Here's 9 to 1:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

1

Interesting to notice, also, one of the first things these "cops" thought suitable to do, was to confiscate every single recording device that took glimpses of their proceeding with... "law enforcement".

Tell me about PIGS, now.

That's what they are.

Not cops.

I respect the just law cops.

I don't respect PIGS.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Yes, and what the local prosecutor's office should be doing...

... is launching its own comprehensive investigation into all aspects of what happened (the incident itself, the confiscation of the recording devices, etc.), rather than relying on the law enforcement agency to police itself. It is difficult to keep cops in line when the institution that has the power to prosecute them for misdeeds instead turns a blind eye.

A Constitutional, Christian conservative who voted for Ron and stands with Rand

Uploading video to the

Uploading video to the internet in real time is an essential tool in combating state tyranny.

"automatically post to social networks, or broadcast to blogs and video sites.

Videos can be viewed live (right as they are being recorded) or anytime later."

http://qik.com/

wolfe's picture

It's not funny...

but I grew up in Bakersfield.

As a kid, we all knew that if you made a cop run, you were likely to get shot because they were too lazy to chase you.

And if they caught you, and you somehow pissed them off, you would likely end up going home or to jail in pieces.

Maybe I shouldn't admit this... :) But I once had 5 standard issue's pointed at me for drinking a 40 in public and having the audacity to run. I have many worse stories about Kern brutality, but I won't share because I don't like posting potentially identifying information.

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Cyril's picture

Quite disgusting.

Quite disgusting.

I'm afraid you gonna have to cope with this more and more often, America.

That's the natural evolution of any police state.

And btw, the good cops and sheriffs who do respect the constitution are the ones that are getting laid off (or soon to be) as I'm writing this.

These nine butcher cops will probably get away with it (not doing any prison time, that is).

I'm sorry.

This can happen to any of us now the state is alone to deem who is good and who is bad. The unjust law being applied, or the just law ignored or mocked.

Universal healthcare and foodstamps for all is more important than justice, of course.

Please help yourself, know the people around us:

http://www.dailypaul.com/285113/help-public-school-problems

See what I mean?

:(

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

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"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

And the beat goes on

...

Kyrie Eliason! (Lord have mercy!)

On this woman and her precious children. (May the cops repent as well!, or may justice be served swiftly) This is just horrifying!

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Just the other day

I had a phone call collecting money for the spouses and children of officers killed in the line of duty. At first I thought it was a computer call because he sounded so robotic and talked over my questions but when I knew I was actually talking to a human being I asked him what is being done for the spouses and children of people murdered by the police. He suddenly sounded very human but didn't have an answer to my question.

Garnet
Daughter of 1776 American Revolutionists

Jesus

This man was murdered! Four little kids, oh lord.

This is why people need to get applications like QIK on their phones. It sends video live to your youtube account. So even if your phone gets confiscated or destroyed - it's too late, your video has gone live and has been immediately saved.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

itzSteve's picture

Is this the new police strategy?

If an officer sees anyone taking video of them beating down citizens in public, they can just grab all the phones with the videos and claim it is evidence? I guess that strategy could cause the public to think twice about capturing the cops on video.

What keeps me up at night

is that one day, witnesses aren't going to be carrying cameras, they will be armed.