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Why Ron Paul Hasn't Called for Armed March on D.C.

Why hasn't Ron Paul called for an armed march on D.C. as Adam Kokesh has? Is it because he's so old and senile now he missed realizing it's a good idea?

Of course not. We all know Dr. Paul's mind is sharper than most people in the world, and everyone in the federal government. So is Kokesh right and Ron Paul wrong?

I will tell you. Dr. Paul understands more about the whole situation than Kokesh probably ever will. That's why Ron Paul as a leader has grown such a large following, a following that includes not just enthusiastic gun owners but smart people like Tom Woods and Judge Andrew Napolitano, people that can't be easily labeled "domestic terrorists".

Dr. Paul understand this must be, for now, an intellectual revolution where we win hearts and minds, which we have been. Why? It's because we don't have a situation of absolute tyranny. There is still a peaceful process by which we can regain constitutional government. The very fact this site exists and we can openly discuss taking up arms against government is evidence of that. If this was China we'd all have been picked up by morning.

Let me clear up a few things.

First, the armed march Adam Kokesh plans is a huge risk, because there are variables he can't control such as agent provocateurs or independent minded marchers. At the same time there is palpable frustration over how far we've strayed from the Constitution which could convert to violence if sparked by a bloody march outcome. I think that's a real danger, and not one I think should be up to Adam Kokesh.

Second, I'm not completely against a hot revolution. If the government pulled an unconstitutional gun grab or martial law then I would agree the time had come, because these are strategic events that could hinder the ability of the people to rise up which is the last Constitutional check keeping government from absolute tyranny.

Third, there are other ways, besides politics or violence, the current status quo will come to an end. The dollar which funds this overgrown empire will crash in the near future. If you don't believe that you haven't been paying attention.

Fourth, the impending economic collapse is inevitable, and we can't "save" things by quickly re-taking government. Any move away from the dollar being printed out of thin air toward gold will collapse it. That's just the reality of the situation because there are too many dollars.

Last, people shouldn't be so ready to kill their fellow countrymen. I doubt most people on this site can say they've always been "awake" to everything that's going on.

Yes, freedom means the ability to rise up against government. I have love and sympathy for people that are willing to in the face of tyranny. I think that's part of being a true American, but with freedom comes responsibility. It's not that anyone is "cowering" to rulers. We know we have the right position. That shouldn't give us the right to grab a gun and curse the world. Don't you see? That's the easy thing. The harder thing is to exercise restraint and use our heads. Otherwise the bankers and elite are playing us for fools - again. They are meddling in the system and creating this dangerous situation where we turn on each other. Don't allow that.



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Adults accept reality and

Adults accept reality and don't contradict it with facts that are ehh, not only on google. Right in front of your face.

Well stated!

The plan is far too rash and uncontrollable.

I have had enough of Kokesh, he isn't responsible enough to handle something THIS level.

This has too much emotion, and nit enough long term benefit, I hope no one attends.

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

Oh so your a pussy who wants

Oh so your a pussy who wants to beg his masters for his power back?

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Why are you attacking members of this site?

You've been here for 9 months so you should know a thing or two. Please be kind, and don't mistake kindness for weakness.

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Weakness? You act as if you

Weakness? You act as if you have some sort of strength that is going to effect me.. get real.

That made no sense

Beg my masters for HIS powers back? Unless I am reading this wrong, you are saying I am begging the government to take my powers away?

Nothing but ad hominem in this sentence, try making an actual statement

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

rofl

rofl

The

two are in completely different circumstances. Besides...Kokesh has called for a peaceful march. Carrying arms peacefully should not be a violation of any law. The enforcers are the criminals.

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

I agree that carrying arms

I agree that carrying arms peacefully shouldn't be a violation of the law, but it is violating a law. Open carry is strictly prohibited in DC.

http://www.usacarry.com/washington_dc_concealed_carry_permit...

its what some people have

its what some people have come to understand as a, victimless crime,
They'll be fighting against pre judgement, guilty until proven innocent, suspicion as guilt, regulation conditioning, so many things, incompassed in one action
im hoping to see a coalition between movements, put our damn differences aside for one time, for the damn cause, a damn cause that people have given sweat for over the generations, imagine looking into the eyes of those who fought for the things we are lossing today, i dont want to hang my head in shame by saying to them, your cause was not worth it, your death was Just.....feels ungratefull, and shamefull, the last vestige of their memory possibly dying in future generations......

"freedom is liberating, and scary as fuck" make belief quote - 1814

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Bump

Thank you for thoughtful post

This post is not thoughtful,

This post is not thoughtful, this post is retarded. If you agreed, stop slacking. This post is in direct defiance to reality on a factual basis.

Too many people are still in the Matrix

These people are deeply vested in the system staying exactly as it is. They will viciously fight anyone trying to take their benefits away. Think all police, government employees, military industrial complex, etc. THEY WILL KILL YOU, and not blink an eye.

In my humble opinion, we should follow in the footsteps of Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Ron Paul. We should all be the change that we want to see in the world. We cannot change anything outside of ourselves (I don't even have any control over my wife).

My grandfather had this to say when he was asked why he never attended church: "I would rather see a sermon than to hear one." Let others learn through you example.

Just start disobeying and refuse to follow orders. Pay off your debts and take most or all of your money out of the banks. Stop supporting big evil corporations. Stop buying crap that you don't need. Increase your use of cash. learn a skill with the goal of working for yourself for cash. Look at every public official with disgust. Laugh at them. Shame them. Stop voting. If you get selected for jury duty, practice jury nullification and only convict those who have committed a tort. You get my point. There are virtually hundreds of other ways to peacefully resist.

Be prepared with at least 30 to 60 days worth of food, water & supplies.

Lastly, you NEVER want to give the Beast any excuse to institute martial law and direct it's killing machine against you and your families. They can kill millions at a time. They have no empathy and will show no mercy.

An armed march on D.C. is a very, very bad idea.

Add your own ideas to the above. There are a lot smart people on this site. Love to all of you.

Good post by rpcongress.

“Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.”― Henry David Thoreau

Excellent comment,

thoughts, suggestions DR.

Thank You

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I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

I stopped reading after

I stopped reading after this

"Second, I'm not completely against a hot revolution. If the government pulled an unconstitutional gun grab or martial law then I would agree the time had come"

There is a city called boston, google it.

I gotta say

I was thinking the exact same thing... The time HAS come. Did the OP not hear of the mass gun confiscations during Hurricane Katrina? Did the OP not watch as houses were illegally raided and Boston was put on lockdown? SMH

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so you're both going?

I'm not. good luck to you though, if you do. All anyone can do is what they think is right. Adam isn't vs. Ron in this. Just like you two aren't vs. the OP.

Do what you want, and I'll make my own decisions. The OP was a point of view that was thought out, well written, and had a point. I'll take it for what it's worth, an opinion.

Well thought out and well

Well thought out and well written means no obvious contradictions. This isn't he case. Whoever wrote this has not being paying attention.

Your whole argument is a

Your whole argument is a false argument. Adam is not staging a violent protest he is staging a peaceful protest and march. Your insinuation that this is a violent attack on the government is disingenuous at best purposeful false characterization at worst.

We are not winning the intellectual war freedom has steadily declined yea a few more have woken up but the vast majority have little or no clue what is going on.

Adams march will be a high water mark for government where the tide turns. No one is saying this will win back freedom in one felled swoop that is another false characterization.

This is exactly what the founders did after a long train of abuses we have suffered a longer train and then they did and tolerated more tyranny then they ever would.

I support Adam in this and all those who march with him.

Tell this guys family and the myriads like him we are making progress...

http://www.dailypaul.com/285089/dad-who-died-during-arrest-b...

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well put RPC, well put; a nuanced view...

I've been saying this a lot more, lately: It's the Right Time, but Wrong Timing.

If that makes any sense...

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Kokesh is upstaging a better idea on the same day.

Not cool.

(This has been in the works for a while now:

http://americasvoicenow.org/the-plan-to-take-back-america-pl... )

What would the Founders do?

Wow they staged a liberty

Wow they staged a liberty event on july 4th... yeah Kokesh is doing it to upstage them! Wait wait he is a jew!!! Zionist propaganda??!?! ITS JULY 4TH.

EDIT: to you brain dead fucks who downvoted this, it was a joke.

Global Strike ::: 7 • 4 • 2013

Adam's event will help the cause of liberty regardless of the outcome ...
Global Strike ::: We The People demand our Republic back

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I tend to agree with this post

And if I thought doing a symbolic march into CD with weapons over the shoulder was appropriate right now, Adam Kokesh would be the last person I would want leading it.

I've seen enough of Adam to make up my mind. I don't think he is somebody to be trusted with something as potentially explosive as this is.

If someone stepped up with a more sensible, less inflammatory plan to do something similar on the Fourth - I might be more inclined to support it.

But as is, with Adam leading this - honestly it has 'potential disaster' and 'backfire' written all over it.

Inspirational

Thanks for that. Well stated, concise and on the money.

See my comment mr "on the

See my comment mr "on the money" and the 4 idiots who upvoted it.