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Oh So I Am A Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist ... Okay

(I am sure you've all seen this before)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT__8lnjM8E



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I'm a Conspiracy Advocate.

I'm a Conspiracy Advocate.

Kennedy Did Believe In Conspiracy - Full Speech Supports This

It is true that Kennedy’s speech to the press has been edited and mainly circulated in that form to suggest he was talking about a particular group of conspirators, for example the illuminati. This has had the unfortunate effect of granting anti-conspiracy folks a way to arguably discredit conspiracy theorists who advance theories around more recent players and events involving the “powers that be,” as many call them.
But it is not actually provided, on logic, that conspiracy debunkers should use the “whole speech context” principle to claim Kennedy did not believe in a conspiracy. He clearly states that he does. He makes a compelling and eloquent case for a conspiracy. However, the scheme he believed in was the conspiracy/threat of communism. It seems to me not inappropriate for a person who believes there is a comparable conspiracy/threat from within our own government now, to point to Kennedy as an individual who was not mocked for believing in a conspiracy that threatened Americans. Although we would want to make sure we do not claim that his conspiracy belief was the exact same as the one(s) one would advance today, necessarily. I don’t think folks who cite Kennedy as a credible figure who believed in a conspiracy are much concerned with the press freedom issue raised in the speech. So that is a bit of a secondary matter of accuracy in looking at the entire 19 minutes. So really – listening to the entire speech still leaves Kennedy as a man who believed in a powerful conspiracy and argued it publicly. For people who are inclined to believe in conspiracies, he can still be cited, albeit with a qualifier. My opinion, FWIW.

Israel and the Nuclear Bomb

I post this every time - Top Secret Letter from JFK telling Israel "No" to the atomic bomb

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/israel/documents/exchange/index...

and I will continue posting, every time

The American People need to know

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

i don't get it on many

i don't get it on many levels.

he didn't say 'no'. He said 'we want to inspect your nuclear site.'

Also, since when do we support the president telling other countries 'no'?

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doctored speech

as mentioned below, his 19:00 speech was asking the press to censor the news more.
see here
or just here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/1597847

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

No. You're a Do It Yourself

No. You're a Do It Yourself Crime Scene Investigator, DIY-CSI.

That wasn't funny the first 20 times you spammed it

Sitting home scratching your scrotum and manipulating Youtube videos and Photoshop to push your paranoid fantasy narrative is not being a Crime Scene Investigator. It is making you a propagandist that every bit as dishonest as your imaginary NWO/illuminati misinformation enemies.

Boston Is A Canary in The Mine

A truly alarming test for all Americans whether we will notice, tolerate, accept - even cheer - martial law as a norm. We are failing that test. And of all places, the DP should be a haven for those of us who see this clearly. Instead, there is a growing environment of fear, intolerance and suppression that threatens the reputation of this place far more than so-called conspiracy theories. Ridicule, mockery, dismissal -- these are the tools and methods of the oppressors that so-called liberty supporters claim to resist. Sad -- very sad.

Wilson, Hoover and Eisenhower can also be quoted with words of supreme caution in this vein. The word "conspiracy" is not used in all of these but here ya go:

Wilson: "Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." (from Woodrow Wilson's The New Freedom: A Call for the Emancipation of the Generous Energies of a People (New York and Garden City: Doubleday, Page & Company, 1913)

And from Eisenhower's well-known farewell speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

"So that liberty and security may prosper together."

You may notice Eisenhower says an "alert and knowledgeable" citizenry is key to countering the "influence" about which he is concerned. He says "we must take nothing for granted."

It isn't as though we need rely only on Kennedy's statement, as if the reality of conspiracy (and it is a reality) need hinge on just one highly-placed politician's warning. Here's a long excerpt by an insider of insiders, J. Edgar Hoover in The Elks Magazine, August 1956:

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Make no mistake about it. The strategy of the communist conspiracy has not changed. The tactics only have altered and they are presently designed to develop a climate more favorable to conspiratorial activities. Subversion, infiltration and espionage can best be carried out when the people of a nation have been lulled into a state of lethargy.

Many times I have thought that if this young Republic is to fall before the grinding onslaught of a slave-driven regime, it will not be solely because an enemy-directed fifth column has worked its way into the body politic. Rather, it will be because we who are citizens are indifferent.

It is to me appalling that so few among all the citizens who daily enjoy the God-given blessings of being free Americans are sufficiently interested in their future, and that of their children, to acquaint themselves fully with the facts of communism. Too many people condemn the word yet have not the vaguest notion of the evil which the word encompasses.

A handful of inspired men gave us our freedom. They cannot preserve it for us. That responsibility rests with the individual American. And we must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism are being steadily advanced because many of us do not readily recognize the means used to advance them. The communist, meanwhile, does not allow himself the luxury of inertia. He is intensely active. Because of him, the menace of communism in this country will remain a menace until the American people make themselves aware of the techniques of communism. No one who truly understands what it really is can he taken in by it. Yet the individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.

The straightforward American cannot conceive of another citizen enlisting in the espionage service of a foreign country, or deliberately propagating discontent, hatred and disunity at the orders of an alien group. He cannot believe that any American would serve a philosophy which moves inexorably toward the goal of reducing the status of the individual to that of slave.
Our frontier forefathers faced great dangers. They encountered heat and storm and starvation. Again and again
they joined in battle against a hostile foe. But our forefathers were very much aware of one thing. That was the nature of the enemy they faced. Insofar as possible, they prepared themselves for eventualities. When the campfires flickered low on the long trek west, a watch was set. Those men of the frontier knew that awareness of danger is the first requisite if one is to combat that danger with any degree of effectiveness. Until the American citizen learns for himself the nature of the present menace, communism will continue to be a deadly danger.

The conscientious citizen asks, "How can one be sure what the truth is? How can it be winnowed out of the welter of propaganda which the communists and their apologists spew forth?"

All that I can say is—and I repeat what I have said many times—the American citizen must hew to a line comprised of a little skepticism, a lot of knowledge, monumental faith, and an everlasting desire to get the facts. He must ascertain for himself what the facts are. He must accept nothing less than the facts— neither the majority version nor the minority version. He must view all the evidence until the face of truth is plain.
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We know we cannot rely on the media or the officials for the facts. We are left to our own and each other in trying to find out what really are the facts. It's messy for sure and there are a lot of mistakes and wrong turns. But if we don't engage and share with each other on ALL of the possibilities, no matter how uncomfortable, we will be faced with "Shelter In Place" -- and worse -- in the years to come. Never before in my 50 years do I recall a military scene and city "police action" on regular people peacefully in their own homes as we witnessed following the Boston bombings. This is why Boston is for ALL of us to investigate If we don't like a conspiracy theory, we should debate it but not attack people who are tired of being fooled and lied to, regardless of their apparent IQ. Everyone deserves liberty and to see the plain face of truth no matter what it takes to unveil it. The face I see staring us down right now is tyranny and I for one do not care about "reputation" or the bar furniture when none of that will be left for us in a police state anyway. I'd rather lose those things now as a matter of fighting for the truth than have it ripped away from us b/c we wanted to be "safe" and "sensitive." It's that serious folks, based on what I see happening at an ever-accelerating rate.

Alright then. Off the soap box for me, for now.

It's edited...

Sorry. My battery on my phone is about dead so I didn't watch the whole thing, but I've seen it before they edit out parts of it. In the whole thing he actually calls for more secrecy. I'm sorry, I wanted to be true, too.

Don't get me wrong he acknowledges secret societies and that they have an influence on our government... but it's not what lots of youtubers try to make it out to be...

Ron Paul convert from the Heart of Dixie