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Glenn Greenwald Schools Bill Maher on Benghazi, US ME Bombing, and Religion

This was so nice to see. Glenn gets a lot of fantastic points out in a very short amount of time. It's almost as if he knew once he started speaking truth, they'd try and cut him off. Awesome job Glenn!


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Yup.

Greenwald should be on Maher's show all the time just to slap sense into the simpering sycophant.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

strongly disagree..

just give Greenwald the show!

He could bring maher on for laughs once a month. maybe make him wear a costume and ride a unicycle.

Thank You!

That should be the focus of this infantile-prepubescent-immature room temperature IQ Maher cable show...not sinking into the gutter with him and his views on religion, politics, or anything else he desires attention on like any spoiled brat.

The only time I've ever seen Maher rise to the level of maturity was when Ron Paul was his guest.

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

This was awesome

and I am glad someone posted it here at DP!

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."-- Albert Einstein

Wow some truth on that show..

Amazing times we live in.

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I try to change people every day. Do You?

Glenn Greenwald....

belongs somewhere in Rand Paul's Cabinet or Administration. Probably alongside Dennis Kucinich in the State Department.

Rand Paul 2016 for Peace

I like Greenwald a lot...

...but Kucinich is a politician. He has been bought his whole career.

They're both very good on foreign policy (especially Greenwald), but they're also both socialists and, for that reason, should be kept at arms length.

Dr. Paul was a politician as well

So using the same logic you would have to discount Dr. Paul as well? Kucinich stands up for what he believes in and thinks critically. Because of it his party re-districted him out of politics... just like Ron Paul.

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

No, Ron wasn't a politician...

...not in the context that I use the term, and to mention Kucinich in the same breadth is lunacy.

Kucinich is a socialist, and there have been countless instances in Kucinich's career where he sold out, where he comprised, where he held positions and voted in return for campaign contributions and political expediency.

Just because there were a few instances where he didn't compromise or sell out doesn't make him Ron Paul.

Ron Paul NEVER wavered from freedom and the Constitution. Kucinich did as a matter of course. That is what socialist politicians *do*.

President Rand Paul....

should and must have Democrats in his Administration. I can not think of two better Democrats than Kucinich and Greenwald to have in the State Department. But yes you are correct, I will keep them away from domestic policies, except civil liberties.

Rand Paul 2016 for Peace

Greenwald is a Democrat?

Surprised to hear that. I wonder if he supported Ron Paul. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. In any case, I think he's a very open minded and intelligent guy so I'd feel much better if a guy like him were in office (not that I think that's what he's looking to do w/ his career) than some establishment type.

He has supported Ron Paul but

He has supported Ron Paul but has thoroughly destroyed some of Ron's own arguments.

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Which Ones?

I guess it goes to show that as bright as Glenn is, he probably still can learn a thing or two.

IIRC, on the Constitution and

IIRC, on the Constitution and monetary policy.

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Jews will be jews.... whether they are atheists or not

Israel is a theocracy in the same sense as Iran, just a judiciary backing zero constitution protecting the name of their religion... same shit

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

If someone "is Jewish" that

If someone "is Jewish" that is in reference to their religion, therefore a "Jewish atheist" is an oxymoron, genius.

That's incorrect

It can refer to the specific religion of Judaism or the ethnic identity group. To be Jewish (or a Jew) is to have a specific ethnicity. There are many, many non-religious Jews. There are Messianic (Christian) Jews. There are atheist Jews. There are orthodox, reformed, agnostic, and secular Jews as well. It is a cultural and ancestral identity group that transcends mere religion.

you would think... but Maher proves even the atheist

will pick the "ethnic" state over the "theocracy".

you act as though it is black and white, like Jews are not claiming they are more than a religion when the entire zionist platform perpetuated by the grand majority of jews in this country supports its ethnic state over the establishment clause as a way to undermine the constitution.

If you are a jew and respect the establishment clause than you can't use a ethnic alias to circumvent it. And if you don't use that alias and you respect the Republic than you are not a collectivist jew, regardless if your family says you are.

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

Ouch

I want to mention that I'm Jewish (though not religious) and I'm a big supporter of Ron Paul. I'm assuming Glenn Greenwald is also Jewish and it's pretty clear he's not "pro-establishment".

But keep in mind that Ron Paul talks about people as individuals rather than seeing them in groups. That's why he always talks about individual rights rather than group rights. He doesn't think there should be "women's rights" and "gay rights" and "minority rights", etc. He believes that there should only be "individual rights". When you see people as individuals rather than seeing their group affiliations then being "anti-[fill in the group]" makes no sense. If you truly are a supporter of Ron Paul I'd suggest you think about that.

You're right, see individuals as individuals

so if you are not religious than you are not a jew.

why support another abrahamic faith that has diluted ethnic cultures with dogma to secure jewish supremecy for millenia now if you are not actually religious.

If it is a religion than why feel so ethnically tied to Jewry?

what you described was a Republic, I agree. So why pick a theocracy overseas if you're an atheist like Maher.

atheist INDIVIDUALS don't support either a jewish state or a islamic state... no need.

When I say "Jews will be Jews" I mean "collectivists will be collectivists" and I am sorry that hits home but honestly if anything is going to wake up America it is Jews like you who decide once and for all that the first amendment means individuals first regardless of what "ethnic collectivism" popularizes in the mindset of your tribe.

Last time I check Christians were not claiming ethnic nationhood, they were respecting an establishment against such.

I think instead of trying to take offense to everything individuals say about your tribe you should take the initiative to stop the fundamental psychological discontent jews have with the establishment clause and the underlying political apparatus constructed to undermine this Republic

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

Just might be a coincidence

but Maher might be protecting the actions of Israel because some of those folks are paying his bills and keeping the lights on in his studio.

He can be an atheist all day, but he has boundaries due to associations regardless. Butter that bread.

Power is a heck of a thing.

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I'm not taking offense at ...

..."everything individuals say about your [my] tribe". I am absolutely against our foreign policy in the middle east (and elsewhere for that matter). Believe me, I try to wake people I know up regardless of whether or not they're Jewish. To be honest, I think a lot of world events are shaped by US foreign policy (the US replaced Mohammad Mosaddegh with the Shah). And I think control of natural resources (through a strategic base in the middle East) is the probably the real reason the US supports Israel the way it does. By no means am I saying Israel is a bunch of angels though. They're most certainly not. And not that I know the real specifics but I'd guess they're probably just as bad - if not worse - than the governments of the countries around them.

Having said all of the above, I have to wonder if your focus is in the right place. I get the feeling (though I'm certainly open to being corrected if I'm wrong) that you are more focused on Jews. I don't think the deeper issues are about "Jews vs [fill in group here]" or anything like that. I think it's about the so-called "power elite" wanting to control the populations all around the world and doing whatever they need to do. And, actually, one of their "tricks" is to get groups to fight against each other (black vs white, Jew vs Muslim, etc) which keeps the focus off of them. I could be wrong but I think it's worth some introspection to see if you are falling into that trap. I do want to mention, however, that I don't mean any of this in a rude way. To your credit, I can tell that you are passionate and I do believe you are speaking out based on your conscience (which I'd always respect).

I completely agree with you

and I promise I am not focused on jews, I was angry about an unrelated conversation so I probably made it look more derogatory than necessary in my earlier comment. I think there are great people of all creeds, I too am only worried about the power brokers disguising themselves as zionist jews to radicalize democracy into theocratic measures and actions.

I appreciate your humbled approach, being from a military family with my brother and my dad sent to war I get awfully tired of pandering

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

Sure

We all have a right to be upset at what's going on in the world. I appreciate that you care as much as you do. We all need to use our passion about this stuff to speak out now while we still have some liberties left to defend! We're on the same side.

We should turn Iraq into Republiccratsville

and send all the people who care more about their party than their country to win their war

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

Bill Maher - a legend in his own mind - belongs on The Onion

If he expects respect or at the very least, to be taken seriously, he should have Nancy Pelosi on and drill her on why she took the bill off the table to try Bush, et al, for war crimes and treason. After all, practically the whole country supported it.

The problem with shows like this - some people, like Glen, want someone to be held accountable regardless of party. Prime candidate for ridicule by Maher which is the only thing he's good at.

The others, like Maher, want to pick and choose - based on party. Accountability's just a game and ridicule is his raison d'etre: "I'm bored with this" as Glen is answering his question was for ridicule and nothing but.

I'd love to ridicule his sorry ass all the way to The Onion where he belongs.

"If you want something you've never had before, you have to do something you've never done before." Debra Medina

I'd prefer not to see any

I'd prefer not to see any drilling of Nancy Pelosi.

oh man that was great!!!

Glenn just smashed Bill in the face with his own hypocrisy. Great stuff!