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How Do We Wake Up The Liberal Wannabe Socialists?

Make Obama president!

I think it's working...

All of the sudden, 10 years later and now I'm no longer the family kook. My friends and family respect me more now than ever before.

"You were right bro, this is f'd up! Obama's just like Bush but worse!"

How many people here have experienced the same thing?

Funny how I used to be the crazy dude, and now I'm their therapist.

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I try to reference history and draw their attention

to how collectivist socialism largely dehumanizes. Plus, its rather dismal track record of being a vehicle through which the centralization of power occurs most easily, and that this always results in abuse. Oh, and mass murder, etc.

I remind them of the value and sacred importance of the individual person, that person's rights and so on. I remind them that they are such individuals! They usually don't *really* want to be robbed so that others who choose not to work can leave easy lives, too, I notice.

For the best effect, I draw their attention to how socialist movements, etc. are *really* funded! That the money always can be traced to either corporations or wealthy capitalists... bankers, etc. LOL! This is easy-peasy nowadays! Plus the fun stuff of Lenin's support from American bankers and such. People always are fascinated by "wow"-provoking history tidbits.

Plus, how someone like Ron Paul champions personal rights and freedom, while the so-called liberals seem keen to take them away... a la fascist style. NDAA, etc. = proof.

They hate to be told they've been sold out by their favorite politicians, too. This works. I have the added magical power of having been aligned politically with them for a while (as a reaction against Dubya, 9/11, war-mongering for oil, etc.), but I tell them that Obama is just another Bush--which we know is true--and I itemize all of the campaign promises he has already broken and how his policies are just like Bush / rest of NWO presidents!

I also catch them on those issues where they hated Bush for certain behaviors but seem to applaud Obama for the same behavior. (Gotta love a despised ex-POTUS... makes it all much easier....)

Some of these people I talk to just get pissed and disengage. Fine. But others have been stumped. I can only hope they are thinking things over a bit.

What would the Founders do?

Restore a classical liberal

Restore a classical liberal faction of the democratic party so they have somewhere to turn too. Because it wont be republicans that they look towards.

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts.
-Patrick Henry

I tell my brainwashed family of Dim-witcrats

"i left the GOP after they cheated Ron Paul .... now YOU need to leave the Democrat party "
The hardest sheep to wake up are the fools who still believe the crap from WaPoo NYT CNNBCBSNPRPBSNBC ...
Totally brainwashed public school fools ... god help us !

How do you get through to family?

Otherwise, I hear you. Neighbors that I sort of hid from all winter since Romney lost, have been crawling out of the woodwork to come ask my advice, opinions, and tell me they like my bumper stickers.
Excepting one brother, my family cut off contact with me in 2008 and it almost seems they REFUSE to see what is going on BECAUSE they would have to admit I had been right, not crazy.
Here's one of those "palm to forehead" things that gives me lots of headaches... The WORST "sleeping beauty" in my family is a sister who goes to church with Larken Rose. I keep thinking I should ask him to sit by her and maybe something will rub off...

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.


and the ones that were just simply clueless are starting to notice the writings on the wall. Its pretty much undeniable anymore... everyone is sensing what's happening. But its still pathetic knowing if say for instance there was undeniable irrefutable proof that for instance, O's birth cert. were the forgery it obviously is... it wouldn't matter. No one would do a damn thing about it. Think of all the other lies perpetuated by our glorious leaders. The truth comes out a generation later and everyone just goes, "darn, really?" When the likes of LBJ and many others should have their names struck from every public statue, memorial, plaque, library, etc etc. Oh man, don't get me started. oops, too late.

God forgives always. Man forgives sometimes. But Nature never forgives.

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Nice read, good for you. I envy you, so to speak.

Nice read, good for you. I envy you, so to speak.

As for socialists specifically, and by definition, it's almost impossible to wake them up, and for a simple reason: we just don't have THAT MUCH TIME left, any longer, for that.

On this end, I leave those to their fate from now on.

We have enough to do to alert the rest of the people who still have most of their natural common sense intact.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

You a football fan?

We have a shot at a "Hail Mary" still. We need to be ready when the time comes. I'd like to modify a cliche for our efforts:
There are no liberals in foxholes.
When things get bad enough, people will be open to what L Ron Hubbard calls "dianetic moments." (I do NOT care for L Ron or his philosophy at all, but he accurately described a phenomenon.)
Cyril, if you have the time, I encourage you to take the free, online hypnosis course from http://www.hypnosis.edu/

If you pay CLOSE attention, you will be taught how to spot people who are ripe for "suggestion." I was taking the course at the same time I was learning about Ron Paul and 9-11. It was quite synergistic, and I still believe that a team of liberty loving anti-hypnotists would be able to sway masses of people.
Do you even know what "Bewitched" was? A TV show? (Ironically, one that good Christian families all across the country watched for decades, probably still on in reruns.) The witches always had to know exactly what the spell was to break it. There's a nugget of truth there.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

well, I always feel that the

well, I always feel that the best way to convince someone from the left is to use someone who makes your point come from the left. For example, any article by Naomi Wolfe or Glen Greenwald are always a good read. Politicians like Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader are awesome at calling out the President on many bad policies, and points out how hypocritical liberals are for supporting him. And Jon Stewart is hilarious and often takes libertarian stands. Read the comments section of the segment he did on the New York soda ban (you know, for having too big of a cup), and most of the people criticize him and defend Bloomberg.

Use people associated with the left, and they may be more willing to take your conservative or libertarian position seriously.

liberty lover in Nor Cal!

If they are a diehard O supporter I'm not sure they can awaken

But never give up! I have a friend that is a diehard Obama gay supporter. I have been giving him freedom info for two years now. Not sure it's working. Sometimes there seems to be a ray of hope and then, NOPE! But I will keep trying!

I wish it were that easy.

The people I know who voted for B.O. are still happy about it. Yep. It's that bad.

The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
-Thomas Paine