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I Think the Establishment wants Obama out!

A week after Obama says we are not ready to go to war with Syria, the MSM starts to eat him up. MSNBC throwing around the term impeachment. UK still pushing that the Assad regime is using chemical weapons, even as reports of rebel use are left out of the narrative.

So hear me out.

Obama just recently said that he is not wanting to go to war with Syria.

This comes after he drew a line in the sand, that coincidentally officials say was crossed weeks later.

The establishment wants to go to war with Syria. Israel has been bombing. They can't make Obama budge.

Then a week later, these scandals are leaked. If Obama is forced to resign,the CFR's own Smokin' Joe earns himself a one way trip to the oval office.

Whatever the case maybe, there is a reason that we are being fed these scandals. I think they are done with Obama. Maybe I'm wrong. Your thoughts?



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Establishment

I think the following article helps to further the discussion:

http://whowhatwhy.com/2010/03/10/what-obama-is-up-against/

with all the scandals now coming out

I would tend to agree. They have kept these under wraps for a long time and now they are all over the news.

1. Bengazi
2. IRS
3. AP spying
4. ...more to come

I would be surprised if O makes it through this term.

I happen to think he'll stay

I happen to think he'll stay in office, but he'll be tied in knots for the rest of his term.

It could just be a dog and

It could just be a dog and pony show to keep the left and right at each other's throats. Divide and conquer is still the best weapon they have in their arsenal.

Lindsey Williams has said that some of the elites don't like O

So it's very possible. Maybe the NWO just getting ready for their communist takeover with their chosen communist leaders to lead the country, whoever they may be.

You are absolutely right.

Benghazi pales in comparison to Cheney ordering air defenses to "stand down" when the Pentagon was about to be hit and Johnson and MacNamara doing the same when Israeli aircraft were trying to sink the USS Liberty. Republicans see as a bonus removing Hillary Clinton as a serious candidate in 2016; given the Clinton supporters first brought up Obama's eligibility, this may be why Democrats are standing down and letting Obama and Clinton be savaged.

Perhaps they think Biden will be more "pliable". I have been watching this carefully for signs, but nothing has clearly popped up yet. It may be they are hoping a "President Rand Paul," "President Ted Cruz" or "President Marco Rubio" will give them the wars they want with Syria and Iran; or, maybe they think that Biden will follow the lead of a neocon Senate. Stay tuned...

Benghazi will look like a sandbox spat

compared to the war they're gearing up for against the American people.
Free speech - dying
Free Press - they're seeking kill switch on internet - MSM has been propaganda arm of govt/nefarious forces for long time so they don't count
Freedom of Assembly - killed with H.R. 347 Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act
Freedom of religion - dead for various Christions sects (Obamacare)
Gun rights - severely hampered
4th -10th Amendments - dead
Accumulation of incomprehensible debt
Police State - here and now
'Homeland' Security possessing more ammo than US Army
Psychopaths in government

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Cyril's picture

I'm always glad to see people as fully awake as you are.

I'm always glad to see people as fully awake as you are.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

That's Quite A Post

Including your signature.

I've been thinking the same thing.

I think they might be bringing down the administration over Benghazi because they can then just brush Fast and Furious and the birth certificate under the rug. I've heard Arpio is making headway on his forgery investigation. Better to take him down over Benghazi than the Birth Certificate.

"Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito."

I don't think they'll go the birther route

Because that would call into question the legitimacy of everything that happened during his presidency (e.g. the NDAA, Obamacare, etc). TPTB probably don't want to void that stuff out. My guess is they'd rather say it's all legit but that Obama screwed up in Benghazi and w/ the IRS.

Puppet on a string

It's naive to think Obama makes such decisions as war and peace. He does what he's told and will continue to do so or they will publish photos of him sucking...

blackmail..

seems the country is being blackmailed..does the president walk hand in hand with a secretive global intelligence agency unaccountable to almost all and fighting ..who???

I think

This is all just a dog & pony show. But Who knows.... I still think Obama is pro war against Syria. I think something is just building up. U.S is waiting for something.

I like

the way you think.

No doubt the powers that be use both the left & right side of the same coin to push their agenda.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

Obama playing chicken with the Zionists/NeoCons

...he's playing chicken with them. He'll do what they want when they give him (or back-off on) what he wants....

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
- President John F. Kennedy

Impeachment is just the begining.

This is the American Spring.

you'll know it when the

you'll know it when the establishment wants him out. His birth certificate and social security number will be front and center in the media.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Look at Fast and

Look at Fast and Furious....

Look at the drone strikes...

Nothing will happen. Status quo lives on.

If something is being talked about on MSM, you can bet that it is a diversion from something else. With this much attention, Im guessing its big.

My guess is the immigration bill or failing dollar.

I lean more toward what thelastbill said...

REGARDLESS of the outcome from the Benghazi fiasco...EVEN IF the POTUS is eventually impeached...all the attention and focus being directed on Benghazi seems to me to be a distraction. Anytime the masses are being plowed with coverage of something...its always prudent to try and figure out whats going on that TPTB don't want anyone paying attention to.

My gut tells me Syria is being overthrown by private corporate military contractors. However, the CIA could be undertaking a massive covert op inside Iran. Or...like was mentioned...the final mass pillaging by the gov/corp oligarchs could be taking place prior to the next scheduled financial collapse.

The thing we have got to remember is no matter how much time and money is spent on this Benghazi "investigation", NO ONE will be held responsible in a manner that a typical criminal would be held responsible. No one will go to jail. Yeah, maybe obomba gets impeached...and maybe it will actually be an impeachment like Nixons and not Clintons...but I really can't imagine obomba really giving a $hit. He's playing the part he signed up for. He may very well be more than happy to move on to his life of living on the islands smoking his blunts and doing blow. And how does the POTUS getting impeached effect any of us really? Nothing changes when they move the players around.

The Benghazi "report" will conclude that mistakes were made. The right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing (although I'm pretty sure it did)...and of course MORE FUNDING needs to be in place to protect US embassies around the world...SO THIS CAN NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN! (heavy sigh)

The term "a line in the sand"

The term "a line in the sand" is meaningless.

They must be distracting from something more fundmental.

Remember, the bankers control the world, not our puppet government.

What's Goldman Sachs up to? What's JP Morgan up to? Anyone reporting on the massive fraud being uncovered every day in our financial system (besides Matt Taibbi and The International Consortium of Investigative Journalists)?

If they're using such explosive stuff as a distraction, just imagine what they're trying to distract you from. It will be an interesting summer, indeed.

deacon's picture

all the worlds a stage

as we can't see the script,some of us just don't know we are part of it
the grand illusion
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Of course.

Of course they want him out. That's why Romney was picked to win; Obama is simply "too" inflamatory to push the bankster goals effectivly. Worse, he's keeping people awake and angry. Even those who blame "him" instead of the system that controls him, they are still paying more intention than they would be if Romney had won.

This is why I considered Romney's defeat such a victory. It broke the "lesser of two evils" paradime. We know that the RP people did this in 4 swing states. I will "always" prefer a crazy Democrate to a fake conservative. It wakes people up and gets them engaged. Obama isn't a "slowey bring the frog to a boil" sort of president.

Follow the money.

Goldman Sachs and all the banks hedged against him with Romney, even though Romney had a fortune of his own from his Bain Capital fleecing of the American people. The reality is that "the establishment", as you call it, would have liked to get Romney in to cool things down. Either way, its like a game of roulette where they put money on both black and red. Serious. These SuperPACs are funneling huge amounts of money into the campaigns. Now, with the latest story about the AP being wire tapped, something odd is going on. Why would they even tell the AP that?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/05/13/justice-depart...

Nixon was impeached for bugging one office. The administration just committed 200 individual 1st amendment violations. Did the President even authorize this? The governments tentacles are all over the place. I doubt he even knows about half the sh*t hitting the fan until after it happens. I am not excusing him, but this seems to have become the nature of the office. Go back a few decades ago and you had a democrat like Kennedy micro-managing the embassy in Cuba, and here you have the situation in Benghazi and it looks like they never saw it coming at the top. The intelligence apparatus in this country is creepy and, make no mistake, its a giant cyclops eyeball that has now been turned in on us.

Scary as hell if they are now trying to push him out. As far as I can tell, with Monica Lewinsky, it happened as a result of Clinton's refusal to invade Iraq (it was requested in 95-96 and in 99 by members of PNAC - the signatories of the letter formed the basis for a very vocal group of neocons that clearly controlled the Bush administration).

I tell you now, with the economy this bad, people are WIDE AWAKE.

I agree with you. I'm certain

I agree with you.

I'm certain that the teaocons in my neighborhood would have gone back to sleep had Romney won. None of them liked Romney, but they would plead with me that anyone was better than Obama. I would plead with them that the only thing different about Romney was that he was white and older, but that they were the same on policy.

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

Obama is just an actor

Obama is just an actor. Thats all no more no less.

RP and Kev

I took some speaking classes at Gurumaker.com a few years back. They told me stories about how Bill Clinton was booed off the stage at the Democratic Convention 4 years before he got elected because he was a terrible speaker. Then he took lessons on speech and presentation and was President for 8 years.

Obama was a dynamic speaker at the Democratic Convention 4 years before he got elected. He may read from teleprompters, but it is still a talent. Those who were great speakers over time, carried much influence.

So who did the folks at gurumaker have me emulate?

Hitler
Mussolini
Reagan

If you really sit and watch these guys and the passion they could instill in the crowds, especially the first two, it really is quite amazing (from an influence perspective, not by what was said). It's the same type of passion people had for the Beatles, but with singing, not speaking. Rather remarkable.

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Next book: Illusions of Wealth - due out soon
Also writing book We the Serfs!

It's absolutely a talent

Without question Obama is an outstanding speaker. The inflection in his voice and the way he uses pauses for dramatic effect are outstanding. But when you know he's just a puppet, it just makes the whole thing so much scarier. He's very believable.

That's exactly how I think of him as well

That's why he reads off a teleprompter. He's like a news anchor. He reads scripted lines and acts concerned. None of it is real though. He's just a titular head. You could replace him w/ the next puppet and nothing would be any different.