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I think I am done with Rand.

I just dont understand this fella anymore. Selling his soul to maybe be president, selling out Libertarians, sold out his own dad.....man...it just seems like babes for leaders.


We all have our opinions and I respect yours, but can you see where I am coming from? Flip flop, do anything to get votes kind of guy. being awake for a decade now, he just feels wrong to me....wrong!

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This could be it for me. Rand is a pure sell out. I met him personally while Ron was running. I shook his hand and asked him about the drug war. He told me he was a 100 percent against it. So he straight lied to my face.

at the RNC

on camera he was asked about the poor treatment his dad's supporters were receiving (common knowledge) and he claimed to know nothing about it. He does some good work but is untrustworthy in my opinion.

not good but

jill is right.

at least he would leave the mmj states alone as well as co and wash state.
if he changes his position on states rights then i'm done with him.

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i think rand is a master politician

i think he's playing on the next level. i hope i'm right.
this really changes nothing in his position, he just masterfully worded it for this particular audience.
he knows all he can get away with politicaly and with the sheeple is to reduce penalty's at the fed level and leave it up to the states to legalize and leave them alone. he's saying he would not vote for marijuana legalization in kt which i find hard to believe but whatever, he supports mmj.
the fight will be to get him to pardon as many people as he can get away with at the federal level. sounds like a perfect little pet project to get his father to oversee!

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And the other options


Staying home. Rand the non

Staying home.

Rand the non libertarian who wants to keep putting people in cages for ingesting substances he thinks he has a right to tell them they shouldn't be ingesting is not even worth making a trip to the polls.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

Not voting IS a vote!!!

Not voting IS a vote!!!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown


one they ignore.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

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Voting for lesser evil

just gets you more evil.

Rand isn't evil

Rand isn't evil

it's a manner of speaking

no one thinks he's evil. it's his behavior that is suspect, as the article highlights.

thats it. behavior is

thats it. behavior is suspect. I don't want to buy a cow that looks like a cow on the outside, just to get it to a butcher and find out its full of worms.

For Liberty!!!


a cow is just trying to be the best cow it can be. a diseased cow will show signs long before it gets to the butcher.
now a politician...well, i'll let you fill in the rest.

Even if there were no other options,

I refuse to vote for someone whose stated budget figures leave a near 4 Trillion dollar federal budget after 5 years. I want someone who will slash spending with a meataxe, not someone who will simply decrease the rate of growth. Rand is false liberty. His election, or even nomination, would set back the liberty movement by 20 years.

As far as alternatives, try:

Justin Amash
Judge Nap
Ben Swann

If you truly support liberty, you should be going all out to get one or more of them to run.

its not about the pot, tis

its not about the pot, tis about liberty, its about principals, its about our lives. I understand, he seems like the best shot at things in a few years, but, thats a few years, how can we pick someone now whos got his head up the neocon systems butt, and still have 3 years to go. How can you say so early on, lets pick this guy, sure he is kissing the enemies butt, but hes better than Hillary.

Thats just so wrong imo. He looks bought and paid for, he looks like a wolf in sheeps clothing. And with him acting this way now, from supporting Romney, to this link in this post, and its still 3 years away, how can one stand for that?

And I am sorry, but, holding people accountable is exactly what needs to be done to this Savior some of you seem to believe he is. And that starts at our level, in discussions like this on the DP. If we dont show and discuss our opinions, to get others to see what were talking about, then were all the same rubber stamped shills...and I dont care what others say, I know right and wrong, and having a discussion is exactly what this countrys rights and principals were founded on, people discussing the best ways to move forward so there would never be a king George again.

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Did you read my post?

It is RAND PAUL whose stated budget after 5 years is near 4 Trillion Dollars. I am condemning RAND PAUL. I realize it is not just about the budget, but the fact is, the more money the government has, the more power it has to take liberty away. You could at least read my whole comment before replying.

and if the rino neocons

and if the rino neocons selectors are behind him, i dont say whoo hoo first, I think (whats the backroom deal hes done with them to get here)

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