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None of you are getting out of this thing alive anyway...

A provocative post (I know) but hey...

I'm trying to look past the Kokesh/DC thing... let's talk about the larger point AJ is making here:
Do we think 'it' will cost us nothing but 'winning' a court case here and there?
Getting a liberty candidate into the '535' here and there?
Filming yet 'another' brutal event here and there?
or
Are we really in a fight for our life with this 'thing'?
He made me think...




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I'd like to see continued movement at the State level.

I see positive traction there, especially with states voting to ignore Obamacare, ignore 2nd amendment breaches, and legalize marijuana and gold/silver as currency.

I think this is a realistic approach to reigning in the Feds, as long as States stick to their guns (no pun intended) and defend their State laws with State military and law enforcement personnel, if challenged. Secession as a last / alternate effort.

I'm not sure if whipping people into a frenzy to march on D.C. with loaded guns is a more effective approach, but I recognize everyone's free will and certainly understand why people may want to do so.

A Question To The Vets.

As Mr. Jones Says," We're all gonna die {Someday} anyway."

So this rhetorical question is aimed at suicidal returning vets;

Would you rather die as a brave martyr?? Or a coward ?

beesting

He never suggested anything

He never suggested anything of the sort. True patriots don't need coaching to fight for what they believe in. Your comment was unnecessary and unappreciated.

Ecclesiastes 1:9 What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
https://www.youtube.com/user/dasruda

I know that guy

He is the State Farm "You're in good hands" spokesperson

Agenda 21, PNAC, CODEX ALIMENTARIUS and UN biodiversity study. Help me understand why I shouldn't think there is a big agenda against the wishes of the masses.

While I understand and respect the opinions on both sides

of this march... I'm sure I'm not the only one who last year as the neighborhood celebrated the 4th with a parade, barbecues and fireworks, wondered if the celebrators had given any thought to what the day stood for and would anything be any different the following year or would it just be another hollow 'celebration'. This year someone is doing something constitutional in order to point out one of the many injustices we have allowed ourselves to live under. Whether or not it goes well, we won't know until that day but at least it's being done for the right reasons and I for one find it admirable.

Buying time

What Adam is doing is valuable, I think. But so is doing all we can to win the little victories along the way. Anything that gives us more time to prepare for the collapse is good.

Discretion, especially if you have a family with small children, is probably just as important in the long run as the bolder, more daring moves. I need to make sure my family survives and that they are raised in such a way that they can help rebuild the nation.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

I'm going to automatically

I'm going to automatically downvote anything Alex Jones, unless it features him yelling at Pierce Morgan. That stuff is gold.

And AJ's non-Piers Morgan stuff

And AJ's non-Piers Morgan stuff is fiat? :)

I'm surprised anyone still thinks we can change things.

If you do the math then you see we can't change anything. The numbers do not lie. If you look at history you see we can't change anything. People have been "fighting" corruption in government since it's inception yet it has only gotten worse. Nothing suggested in this movement will change that.

Doug Casey would call you an

Doug Casey would call you an optimist.

Change is inevitable

To think things can't change is self enslavement.

And not just that, but I have read the last chapter

in the book, and it says that the good guys win.

Come on.

The only change in government and society since I can remember is change for the worse.

When I talk about change I am talking about change for the better.

Medical marijuana is legal/decriminalized is some states

Hemp is becomming legalized..

My county,, GMO is banned and that's good.

My GOP committee went from Neocon to Liberty...

I think you reap what you sow.. and here, we've been working hard to sow GOOD changes. That is what being in politics is about, and anything WORTHY is worth a good fight.

Doing nothing but saying.. "it's all bad", means to me that Ron Paul did not cure your apathy, eh?

Come on.. get in the GOP pool and help us clean it up.

Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose!

No thanks to the GOP cesspool. I'd rather take a hepatitis C shower!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Go for it

no wonder freedom to you is NOTHING left to lose.

I agree

Completely. If you look at the way people act in society and the comments on websites and news articles you will notice that most people are morons, too dependent on government, too caught up in fake political games and too weak to do anything about it. If we were all as strong as kokesh we would have a peaceful society. Most aren't.

Many of them are trolls. Ive

Many of them are trolls. Ive seen a lot of progress toward liberty.

To me, the only thing more dangerous than underestimating government's evil, is overestimating its power. We can win this because we have something no generation of humanity has ever had before. The free exchange of massive amounts of information and communication of ideas without the filter of the state. In my opinion, the age of government is coming to a ugly but anti-climactic end. It will be replaced by a golden age of market & information driven Individualism.

The gov would love you to think there is no chance for victory and that you may as well throw your hands up and submit. However there aren't that many of them, and in the end, people want stuff for cheap. When governments fail to provide it, they'll turn to the market.

The internet can change things.

We have never had global access to other people, only the governments talked to other nations.
Now, we can get online, find the websites where truth is disseminated and take that knowledge to the coffee shop down the road. But that window is closing, soon even places like the dailypaul will be censored...

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

LOL.

Get back to me in five, ten, twenty years on that one. Just like in the rest of society trying to find truth on the internet is like finding a needle in a hay stack. Plenty of opinion is nothing new and since the majority of people will always look to the "authoritative" view irregardless, then nothing will change. Global access means nothing.

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I disagree, although not entirely.

I disagree, although not entirely.

I really think the web has been and still is a game changer.

I'm not talking about the underlying Internet, only about the web built on top of it specifically.

Who built it?

Not governments. Not corporate monopolies. Not dark forces with a secret agenda. Instead: for most of it, volunteers, in the broad sense.

Network engineers, application engineers, academia, hobbyists. While at home or at work investing in their ideas. Business and sales folks, even. Better yet: users.

If TPTB didn't fear it or had a grand master plan from the start about it, they wouldn't have come up with such things as SOPA or CISPA.

But, granted, we have yet to truly unleash its educative and self empowerment potential. Of course naively the medium mostly focused on enabling businesses and plain vanilla information sharing for markets that only pretend to be free.

Now we know better about the dark forces behind money debasement and the MSM, it's on those very fields, IMO, that we ought to invest the best of ourselves, our knowledge, our intelligence, to outsmart the beast.

Peace.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Ok. I thought ARPA was the foundation

of the internet as we know it. And A.R.P.A. was funded by the U.S. Department of Defense (Government). Although there have been many upgrades and renovations since its inception it still rests on the same foundation. Is this not correct?

I'll bet you are an absolute

I'll bet you are an absolute joy to be around in real life. You remind me of this guy...


http://youtu.be/EZ734u4bFQA

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Although that is funny

You have just provided one more example of how people are stuck in fantasy because they can't handle reality. But keep watching your Hollywood fantasy and I'm sure that change will come along eventually.

Sigh

So all movies are illuminati,

So all movies are illuminati, occult, religious, government, etc propaganda?

Maybe in Major League 2, Hollywood is really trying to make us start worshiping VooDoo?

"Are you trying to say Jesus Christ couldn't hit a curveball?"


http://youtu.be/gndH9mhHPk0

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

LOL

that cracked me up.

They that give up liberty for security deserve neither.

He is the spokesperson

For State Farm

Agenda 21, PNAC, CODEX ALIMENTARIUS and UN biodiversity study. Help me understand why I shouldn't think there is a big agenda against the wishes of the masses.

Hi Fishy! An enlightening read

for you:

Pentagon Seeks to Manipulate Social Media for Propaganda Purposes

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/pentagon-seeks-to-man...

Interesting.

I have noted that those who just spew hate at anarchists with nothing useful to say are well tolerated, and it disturbs me. I also recall the time when the dailypaul users got to delve deeply into 9-11, without being endlessly trolled to accept the official story. Things like that irritate, but they are part of a "free market" of ideas. It seems to me things took a much darker turn recently. And while Jon bears the heat, I have noted that for some reason JiveDadson and JoshArizona seem to be the ones who get to decide what is discussed.
In my continued search to understand how such a medical miracle is not being hailed all over the MSM as the medical miracle it is, I found this:
(WARNING: For mature audiences only)
http://www.justanswer.com/question/qa-guest-content.aspx?TID...
There are doctors ready and available to answer your question, if you want to ask again, but they answered it in 2010, with a 98% approval rating of the responder.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...