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Bottom Line: If Adam Kokesh gets himself arrested...

Then A: the "movement" will be emboldened and energized and righteously indignant all over again?

Or B: the "movement" will "cower", run away, drop their activism, and say "we told you so, Adam"

If Adam doesn't get arrested...

Then A: the "we're on the march, and the empire is on the run"!

Or B: it was all a wonderfully concocted distraction for the movement to take us OFF TASK for several months, as this was made into the #1 concern of the "movement" by these two suspected disinfo agents.

Either way; Adam Kokesh and Alex Jones get tons of national attention, more than our issues, our campaigns, and our efforts to replace politicians with Statesman gets another black-eye by association!

I hope we're not in denial that these guys are the face of the "movement", and their antics further erode our credibility as sane, professional, constitutionalists who can WIN the arguments/seats/influence in representative government from within the system, rather than through 60's type activist stunts before a corrupt government that is without restraint.

The "enemy" infiltrates our groups when we become effectual, why aren't we doing the same?

I am concerned thay these inch-deep, mile-wide, emotional spark plug and flash-in-the-pan stunts just WASTE time, talent, and valuable dwindling resources. We're already winning; nobody watches the MSM, Larry Pratt's GOA got the big gun bill knocked down for a time, and Ron Paul launched his educational institute which coupled with Tom Woods' efforts are a direct affront to the Straussian Hillsdale College.

This government WILL NOT be intimidated, they can only be replaced.



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This could be the spark the

This could be the spark that sets off the American Civil Insurrection War on Government employees.

Kokesh is more problematic

Kokesh is more problematic than Jones.

Jones uses scare tactics and sensationalizes to the nth degree but his stated goal is to spread information and win a war for people's minds, which is an accurate assessment of what needs to be done.

It could be argued that he's working a plan in perfect keeping with Ron Paul's, just doing it in a more ham-handed fashion.

Kokesh, however, is very much about grandstanding, without a stated goal beyond making himself the center of attention. That's fine, but when he draws liberty-minded folks into a weird setup like this armed march, with so much potential for disasters of various kinds, something just doesn't add up.

Kokesh and Jones

are not so burdensome to this movement as are the whiners.
It's long since been stale. Now it's moldy.

These D&C tactics are not working. Try something else.

Good comment.

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+1000, if I could.

+1000, if I could.

I'd say it's being downvoted because.....

...this movement is much larger than whatever happens to Adam at the march. Whether or not he gets arrested is not any sort of barometer on where the movement is or is going.

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

WHy is this being down voted?

WHy is this being down voted? Please, someone, explain.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Vote Down

I voted down because it's opinion stated as fact in a hostile manner.

IMHO I don't believe Kokesh would challenge Obama if he didn't smell weakness. I think many other people worldwide can smell the weakness and desperation of the Obama administration. Once there is blood in the water all rational thinking will go out the door.

So clearly I disagree with the original narrative and am confident that Americans will never be free again without a fight. If you know your history then you should know the "People" and States Rights lost the American Civil War. The sad fact is only another War will change that.

Did you ever occur to you that they are doing God's Will?

Or do you pretend to know everything God is interceding in?
Shame on you.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

If you guys can get this 100 downvotes by 2:30 Central Time...

I will request my account be SHUT DOWN...I know you guys can do it!!!

You've got 5 hours...now "GO!!!"

The Daily Kokesh ...

Who knew ?

They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds. -mexican proverb

Geez, that's unfair PUG. I'm

Geez, that's unfair PUG. I'm fortunate to be retired, but most DPers still work for a living.

Please think about doing the Christian thing and extending your suicide deadline until midnight so as to give the poor working stiffs a chance to weigh in.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

No, you won't

Because you're an attention whore who thrives on negativity.

A signature used to be here!

Bet Kokesh gets bagged for possession too

That silly potty mouth skell is a black eye on the liberty movement and will succeed only in pushing us out of the mainstream and back onto the fringe.

They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds. -mexican proverb

Whoa!!! 136 People on the DP

126 of them are Kokesh groupies.

They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds. -mexican proverb

and that's why he is suspect...

...and that is why trolls are being employed to attempt to bash us who disagreed...

It's time to "move on"....this movement too has been infiltrated and hijacked because it was EFFECTUAL, but now, it's time to stand with the credible and consistently statesman-like in their demeanor and presentation.

Yes, I sincerely think the

Yes, I sincerely think the movement has run its course and we need to 'move on', bible in hand and the Lord's name on our tongue.

You go first, we will follow right out after you...No, really!

your sarcasm is telling...

...you're a progressive, lacking knowledge, in denial, and full of self-conceit, and unable to offer a historically successful blueprint whereby lasting Liberty and prosperity can be achieved any land under pure humanist doctrines, and without God's blessing.

Excellent comment PUG!

Excellent comment PUG! Clearly from the couple sentences, it was easy to tell (via faith) that the man was a liberal communist, government troll AND an agent of Lucifer! May they all burn in the eternal fires!

Only the All-MIGHTY Overlord of the Galaxy who is master of all, All seeing, all knowning and destroyer of they who thinketh too much or questioneth can ever bring about liberty! Puny humans will only bring their own well deserving destruction!

Yup

Adam's Veterans for Ron Paul March in front of the White House received tons of national attention. Oh, wait...

'This government WILL NOT be

'This government WILL NOT be intimidated, they can only be replaced.'

I agree however these two Jews only want the illusion of change where nothing changes at all.

Maybe these two 'freedom fighters' could elaborate on why 290 of the 300 Bolshevik commissars responsible for the butchering of over 50 millions European Christians were Jewish...

109. Make it 110 and final.

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

Personally I would go for a

Personally I would go for a complete eradication. Why make other countries suffer.

PS: All the down votes are from JEWS!

PPS:No, I was not serious fellas...

If Adam or anyone from the

If Adam or anyone from the march gets arrested....

a.) no one will do a damn thing about it.

b.) people will try and get no where

c.) people will try and get NDAA'd

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if this worries you

or scares you,then maybe your god isn't in charge
or isn't as powerful as you think he is
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

why won't mockers address, learn, seek to educate themselves...

...about that "Creator", "Almighty God" frequently mentioned in our founding era?

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.(2) The same was in the beginning with God.(3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Can anyone PROVE otherwise? The ignorant argument that those who give Christianity a bad name is evidence "my god" doesn't exist, by default means the tireless minority that challenged the parent government in their day were just as ignorant, deceptive, maligned and hellbent on subterfuge as this attempted insult asserts that that I am.

Can anyone not call Ron Paul a moron for believing in the same Creator? Why hitch your wagon to his, and mock my beliefs? Presentation of truths, personal convictions, "delivery" of the truth no man dead in trespasses and sins wants to hear? Gimme a break, how spineless is that hair-splitting reasoning. If you're that guy, then, be that guy!

Can someone NOT provide me with "our" new humanist Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights and template for the Rule of Law that the Christian-bashers plan on implementing when "they" throw off this Judeo-Christian beast blazing a path of hell on Earth?(on my behalf, my efforts are in vain; I should just hang it up or admit I've bought into a LIE).

If you perceive EVIL is afoot, then what is "good", if not God?

Satan is a created being, he can't move without permission; it's always men being brought to the end of themselves, put on their backside, before they look up.

What a stiff-necked bunch the Christianity-bashers are...our national humbling is upon us, and so is the purifying of the professing Christian church. No God, No Liberty. This anti-God course of action, called "libertarianism", is the SAME progressivism that the left/right paradigm is pushing, is well-financed, and as Hollywood as any zionist ploy has ever been to keep dissent controlled and contained and managed according to some script.

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and again you miss my point

now i think it is on purpose
where did i say i am an atheist?
those are your words you painted on me
from all our chats here,you still call names
what a man of god you are!!!
here is my point.....again
if god is all powerful then what can man do against him?
what you or i should concern ourselves with is this, adam is a sheep
in wolves clothes,masquerading as a liberty lover
let me ask you something,and i want an honest answer
is the only reason you call me an atheist because we have a different
belief system(bible interpretation) than yours?
my inner voice has told me the answer to this already
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Your last line is misleading.

"This government WILL NOT be intimidated, they can only be replaced."

Actually it can't be intimidated NOR can it be replaced.

Just because a bunch of "liberty minded" people frequent a web site and turn off their TVs doesn't mean the world is changing for the better. Turn the TV back on and look at the morass we live in. Regardless of our hopes or intentions the world is still headed the same direction.

I could have used the adjective "sitting"...

...to identify those Adam is attempting to "intimidate"...

False dilemma filled with emotional fear mongering.

I trust you are leading the way by running for office in 2014?

oh?

False dilemma, right?

No intended "end" on "their" part? This "movement" is beyond being deceived, and misled?

If I ran for office in my respective district, I guarantee you, my Liberty wouldn't be cloaked in atheism and provocation and empty threats.

Those who think they can mix light with darkness and achieve American Liberty are lost in self-preservation and worship of self.