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Storm Clouds Gathering by Andrew P. Napolitano

Government is bad for personal freedom. That argument is premised upon the truism that everything government does interferes with freedom because it either prohibits or compels. Everything it owns it has taken from others. Much of what it says is divorced from the truth. President Obama, like President George W. Bush, has argued that his first job is to keep America safe, and if he impairs personal freedom in the process, that is a small price to pay for safety. Many of my colleagues in the media on the left and right have bought this argument, notwithstanding its fallacies.

Until now.

This past week, we learned that the IRS has targeted for additional scrutiny the tax exemption applications of groups with whose messages it disagrees. We also learned that the Department of Justice obtained the personal telephone records of hundreds of reporters and editors employed by the Associated Press without a search warrant issued by a judge. And during this past week we learned that the White House, the Department of State and the CIA all engaged in a conspiracy of disinformation so that the official version of events of what caused the murders of four Americans at our consulate in Benghazi, Libya, would not impair Obama’s re-election campaign in 2012.

The common threads in all of this government secrecy and lying are a general rejection of government’s moral obligation to tell the truth, a disturbing yet brazen willingness to evade and avoid the restrictions the Constitution has deliberately built around government, and a glib admission that the government can do as it pleases so long as it can politically get away with it.

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Freedom was never cheap, but

Freedom was never cheap, but thanks to our respective governments, it is now more expensive then it ever was, thanks to our respective governments we must now prepare ourselves for the possibility, of paying a higher price and endure that price in order to retain our freedoms, one particular price, is blowback our governments have created,

And in the process along the line, break the cycle we are all in.

Thought provoking read judge

i like the judge but this

i like the judge but this first paragraph and its initial truism is a poor argument.

people have more personal freedom today than throughout most of history. on the front page yesterday was a video of some guy riding a motorcycle through like 50 countries without being harmed or molested by anyone, public or private.

government is bad for personal freedom is absurd as an unqualified blanket statement.

it implies that because government has a monopoly on force, that absence of government would be absence of force. this is ridiculous. remove the monopoly on force and you have a free market in force, and mr motorcycle guy prob couldn't travel outside of 20 square miles without being turned back or robbed of his possessions or life. unless he had a big armed group with him. but as an individual, he would not have personal freedom in the absence of government, no further than his own individual power granted him.

im sure the judge knows this, but when people routinely say government as such is bad for personal freedom, they're ignoring and contradicting the entire record of history.

government, in the sense of public coercion to maintain predictable order by law, is the source of widespread individual liberty. without it, liberty is only commensurate with an individuals private power. and for an individual to have power in absence of public law and order, he needs to a group serving him, held together by force.

reality is un libertarian. liberty comes from order, established by a limited, predictable series of situations when force is applied by a single legitimate body.

the tension between different groups vying for power within the framework or rules of the game is the only retardant of absolute power. but neither anarchy, nor government, allow unlimited freedom for everyone.

its hard to make a convincing argument to an average person that he has less personal liberty than he would in the absence of government. couching our arguments in those terms is a losing argument, because it isn't true and will not convince reasonable people.

we are heading in the direction of less liberty, for a variety of reasons. but addressing those real reasons and trying to reverse them does not involve making ridiculous arguments about a magic kingdom of liberty for every precious individual if only the Evil demon government could be gotten rid of.

people will rightly view this idea as madness.

Freedom Vs Security

The ideas around mr motorcycle seem to show your true meaning much more clearly if you replace the word "freedom" with Security. The Judge hasn't said to remove All government, not from what I have heard, just an effort of limiting it to goals founded in the Constitution.

So

You're arguing and organized gang stealing from and threatening you with death, is better than unorganized criminals doing the same thing?

What?

I take special exception to this:
"reality is un libertarian. liberty comes from order, established by a limited, predictable series of situations when force is applied by a single legitimate body."

Liberty does NOT come from order. Liberty is natural, you are born free with certain inalienable rights. Government, order, structure does not grant you those rights!

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

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Good rebuttal. "reality is

Good rebuttal.

"reality is un libertarian. liberty comes from order, established by a limited, predictable series of situations when force is applied by a single legitimate body."

It does seem however that you are also implying that without government, there would not be order. Which is also absurd.

I would also argue that liberty does not come from order.

If ignorance is bliss, Washington DC must be heaven.

On an individual level

If ANY of us lied 1/10,000th of the amount the US government lies, or even State and Local in many cases, we'd be in jail for a long time... And yet, on a day to day basis the bulk of the people I meet are snarled up in R vs D with very little, if any, perception of why.

among the DOJ 'clouds' , the IRS 'clouds' and the forming

cloud over the nomination for Secretary of Labor, Thomas Perez,( www.dailypaul.com/285669/ben-swann-reality-check-irs-and-ap-... ) we can see a silver lining. Even Obama supporters are waking up to just how badly and thoroughly corrupted this 'Administration' has been and is.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

The storm can't come fast enough

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Well-written and sharply to

Well-written and sharply to the point..

Where Has "Storm Clouds Gathering" The Poster Been

of late? Haven't seen any posts by that person for a while here. Hmmm.

skippy

Here you go

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Excellent op-ed by the Judge, as usual

I have shared with my group. Thanks!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

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